New TWA Flight 800 film coming out

[JayUtah]

The context was the Naval assets were trying to shoot down the suicide aircraft but shot too late.

I admit that's a very imaginative attempt to reconcile your rapidly shifting claims. Too bad it's just as patently absurd as the individual claims themselves.

 

[Jetblast]

Except it still doesn't explain why a small aircraft full of high explsoives still didn't send fragments of said small aircraft into the 747. Maybe the suicide pilot secured the explosives onto the top of this aircraft with tie straps?

Maybe he tied the blast-gouged nose gear assembly whose damage you can't explain on to it?


The PETN residue that FBI got caught lying as being seat glue is also hard evidence you haven't explained. FBI illegally dumped all the seat fabric with this residue into a dumpster behind the hangar. That's illegal. Could you tell me why they did this?

 

[Jetblast]

I was going to go with an interdimensional-tensor-portal warhead that doesn't phase into our spacetime dimension until it hits human flesh.

The NTSB investigators who were actually part of the investigation, unlike Tansy, are in the new documentary saying there were obvious shrapnel-penetrated wreckage parts that were removed after they pointed them out. Maybe those parts entered Tansy's teleporter?

 

[JayUtah]

I admit that's a good question, however the debris field was controlled.

Isn't that just speculation to explain why the evidence is against you?

 

[Jetblast]

The numbers in the far right is the time these areas are active. The format is YYMMDDHHMM. In other words, they are active for the entire month. Just like they are every month of the year. Just like they have always been.

So the area being chock full of assets they then lied about doesn't affect the level of activity?

 

[thedopefishlives]

Jetblast, I have asked for two things now and not only have you not provided them, you haven't even answered me.

1) Where is the Long Island Coroner's report and/or testimony?
2) Where is the radar data showing this alleged suicide aircraft?

 

[Jetblast]

How does that support the fantasy new film?

The CIA offered a fantasy cartoon about the Zoom Climb it backed down from and refused to release the data to when Aviation Science grad Ray Lahr sued them. This new documentary is something I haven't seen you answer the direct facts of.

TWA-800 blew up due to the CWT problem,

Something they never produced any evidence for, but were caught committing crimes to cover-up instead.

 

[Jetblast]

You do realize that the effect of hitting water at 200 knots is not really all that different from the effect of hitting concrete?

Except that the window plug blow-out forensics I showed preclude a hard hit. The nose section itself did not receive similar damage.

So why wasn't the nearly undamaged TWA 800 tire Tansy showed seriously damaged then?


Do you realize the blast gouge striations in the nose gear assembly seriously qualify the condition if the tire? Impossible for a fuel explosion.

 

[Jetblast]

Since you seem to have returned for another day of festivities, would you mind providing the report and/or testimony of the Long Island Coroner that you have relied upon in your attempts to prove your case? I note that you have been studiously avoiding even responding to my request, let alone in an affirmative fashion.

I've already cited it:



Google: Graeme Sephton vs FBI

 

[thedopefishlives]

I've already cited it:



Google: Graeme Sephton vs FBI

No. It's your case, you provide the evidence here. I am not here to do your research for you.

 

[JayUtah]

Except that the window plug blow-out forensics I showed preclude a hard hit. The nose section itself did not receive similar damage.

So why wasn't the nearly undamaged TWA 800 tire Tansy showed seriously damaged then?


Do you realize the blast gouge striations in the nose gear assembly seriously qualify the condition if the tire? Impossible for a fuel explosion.

Uh, you're not a forensic engineer.

 

[jhunter1163]

Except that the window plug blow-out forensics I showed preclude a hard hit. The nose section itself did not receive similar damage.

So why wasn't the nearly undamaged TWA 800 tire Tansy showed seriously damaged then?


Do you realize the blast gouge striations in the nose gear assembly seriously qualify the condition if the tire? Impossible for a fuel explosion.

I think we can assume that the plane didn't glide down and land with a gentle splash. Were the CVR and FDR recovered, and do they show the speed at which the plane hit the water?

 

[carlitos]

Jetblast, I have asked for two things now and not only have you not provided them, you haven't even answered me.

1) Where is the Long Island Coroner's report and/or testimony?
2) Where is the radar data showing this alleged suicide aircraft?

3) What is the name of the captain who was relived from duty?

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I've already cited it:



Google: Graeme Sephton vs FBI

No.

There is no reason why you can't google whatever and post it here. Post a link and a summary. Quote a paragraph or two.

You can even use youtube tags and post a video right in the thread. Just type [yt] videocode [/yt] . The videocode is the 11 characters that appear after "v=" in the youtube URL.

 

[thedopefishlives]

3) What is the name of the captain who was relived from duty?

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I get the feeling the quote from way upthread is going to be rather apropos: All hat, no cattle.

 

[jhunter1163]

There is no reason why you can't google whatever and post it here. Post a link and a summary. Quote a paragraph or two.

You can even use youtube tags and post a video right in the thread. Just type [yt] videocode [/yt] . The videocode is the 11 characters that appear after "v=" in the youtube URL.

Thus sayeth the moderator; heed the words of carlitos, for he is wise.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Fred Meyer did.


Meyer, Angelides (an engineer), and Wire trumps a clown.


These people were there. You weren't.

They know nothing of Missiles and their effects. How am I trumped? WHere were they in relation to the supposed missile? 10 miles away? they never saw a launch they saw a flash and maybe heard a bang. Flash comes a long time before any bang when it is 10 miles away.If they didn't look till they heard the bang they only saw what happened after the exposion.

No bridge was shaken by the little explosion of an AA missile.
You have no idea of what an AAM issile hitting an aircraft looks or sounds like neither do they.

How does someone in a helicopter who sees a flsh know it was a missile when he is in the dark and has probably never seen an AA missile hit anything even if he did fly in Vietnam. AA Missiles don't ge tfired at Helicopters.

 

[Jetblast]

You have absolutely, positively got to be kidding me. This is your grand theory? Fine. Show the radar returns that depict this "al Qaeda suicide aircraft".

It was on one of the TWA 800 cable shows backing the official story. It's well-known in the case. Kallstrom said it was the P-3, but I'd have to examine the track.

 

[matt.tansy]

Most likely the 3 subs were part of some kind of classified missile test maneuver.

There are designated areas for missile testing. 10 miles off Long Island in a busy airway in the middle of shipping lanes isn't one of them.

Let me know if you can find a missile testing range on this approach chart to New York: http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/12300.shtml

Compare that chart to this chart that has the "Pacific Missile Range" outlined and annotated: http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/18740.shtml

When it went wrong they did their usual tricks and made cover-stories. You want us to believe your offerings are genuine however anyone can see what you are avoiding. You ask us to produce proof of their maneuvers. Sure. Really, your newsreel propaganda about the crew watching the evening movie is too much in my opinion.

Sure. Ignore the man with 20 years of submarine experience.

A missile was launched from Virginia that evening.

Are you claiming this missile was involved in the destruction of TWA 800? Or is this the worn out CT canard that anything remotely related supports your theory?

... in the vicinity...

Define "in the vicinity". Is it within 100 nm? 10 nm? 1 nm? 0.1 nm?

 

[matt.tansy]

But you are diverting from the subject.


I've asked you several times to answer how the undamaged tire you show in your photo conflicts with the shredded nose gear tire and you've avoided it. The fact you show a nearly undamaged tire from Flight 800 yet the nose gear tire was shredded means you have to come up with an explanation for the difference between the two.

That was the picture of the nose gear. The rear gear has 4 tires per carriage. The nose gear has 2 tires.

 

[thedopefishlives]

It was on one of the TWA 800 cable shows backing the official story. It's well-known in the case. Kallstrom said it was the P-3, but I'd have to examine the track.

Your words are empty. Show me an actual radar track with this unidentified plane and that it intersects the track of TWA 800 at the point of the explosion. Any theory involving another plane must have this piece of data.