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scrappy said:
...[the GP] was relieved to hear that Tracey doesn't now need to go to the press.
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What?

The last I recall Tracey writing about it, she intended to try go to the press. Now you say she "doesn't now need to". Well, OK, but why is that? What made her change her mind? Is there something else she intends to do instead?
 
scrappy said:
pixel can I ask why you assume flacon doesn't take notice? flacon takes notice, researches and even sends me links to mull over.
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She's managed all that since the start of this thread with her very limited Internet access? Don't think so.
 
@scrappy,

How much of these reactions you are attributing to the GP are things he explicitly said versus things you are reading into the situation?

Did the GP, for example, come right out and say it was a matter for the church and not for psychiatry? Did he instead simply provide encouragement because she was planning on seeing the bishop (with no mention of psychiatry at all)?

I ask because it is a human trait that we often read things into situations to match our expectations. It is important to understand what exactly the GP said and not so much what you took it to mean.
 
Biscuit said:
Ummm WTF changed? :confused:

I don't think you should speak for other people.
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Jack by the hedge said:
What?

The last I recall Tracey writing about it, she intended to try go to the press. Now you say she "doesn't now need to". Well, OK, but why is that? What made her change her mind? Is there something else she intends to do instead?
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I think it's because she now has two of the "Churchhood" - the Reverends - willing to listen to the "evidence" and take it further up the church hierarchy if they deem it worthy.
 
Every time Scrappy posts, his meaning is so vague and cryptic -- and contradictory to something else he or Tracey have posted -- that we then attempt to get him to clarify for the next three pages, which he ignores or fails to properly clarify, before he comes back with some other meaningless blather.

It's all this thread has going for it anymore. :(
 
scrappy said:
Tracey has just given me permission to write what I thought about her appointment with the GP.

I,ve just come back from observing the appointment between the GP and Tracey. I sat quietly in the background. I was brought into the conversation a few times. I did not feel any appeasement from her GP, very the opposite. He knows what he has witnessed, and he knows Tracey does not elaborate or seek attention if she doesn't need any. He spoke with her on a level I have never known before. He also looks forward to her updates. Either way, he certainly understands that something supernatural is happening and needs investigating by the church and not psychiatry. Only time will unfold this situation.
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I'm truly amazed how scrappy's use of the language has improved in little over a month.

Just a couple of early posts to illustrate the comparison to the above post:

scrappy said:
I am Mr Roberts its taken me over 3 weeks to join this site ,Tracy has not bin able to get connection to the internet.She was asked by the board to find out what the spirits were capable off.i sent her a silent recording vie email,and as she played it through her machine it altered my machine.i now have a lap top rigged with just the one voice ,yesterday Mr Bulger purchased a lap top and Tracy reapeated the procedure for a second time,with success.tracy is changing her broadband and she will be back ,she has a doctors appointment tommorowto update him of these new findings.thank you for listenint,Mr Roberts.
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scrappy said:
I have bin with this thread for 4 weeks,
I hear very clear words.
I am aware of paredolia.
I sent her a silent recording as she ran it through her laptop,
it altered the original recording on my lap top
you can clearly hear the spirits tuning them selfs in .
once they were tunend,a voice came over said" welcome to the Roberts people"
Also I clearly hear "We don't want trouble,we want to end trouble"
She continues with her GP ,because the bishop has refused to shed light.
How can I possibly call it a delusion when it is not a delusion?
I hope this helps.
How can I
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Truly, the E in JREF works in mysterious ways! ;)
 
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AdMan said:
scrappy said:
I have bin with this thread for 4 weeks,
I hear very clear words.
I am aware of paredolia.
I sent her a silent recording as she ran it through her laptop,
it altered the original recording on my lap top
you can clearly hear the spirits tuning them selfs in .
once they were tunend,a voice came over said" welcome to the Roberts people"Also I clearly hear "We don't want trouble,we want to end trouble"
She continues with her GP ,because the bishop has refused to shed light.
How can I possibly call it a delusion when it is not a delusion?
I hope this helps.
How can I
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Truly, the E in JREF works in mysterious ways! ;)
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Amazing. ;)

Considering the highlighted, apparently the spirits are next in line for some tutelage. :p
 
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desertgal said:
Amazing. ;)

Considering the highlighted, apparently the spirits are next in line for some tutelage. :p
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Vortigern99 said:
More from Guiley's Encyclopedia:

EVP voices are not heard during recording, only on playback. They typically speak in short, cryptic and sometimes grammatically incorrect phrases. They speak in a variety of languages, regardless of the listeners, and sometimes sing indistinguishable lyrics. Sometimes the voices sound natural and sometimes they sound mechanical. Sometimes one or two voices are heard, at other times a multitude of them. The voices are identifiable as men, women and children. Animal sounds have been recorded as well. Some voices have said they are able to communicate on tape through ECTOPLASM [qv]. Voices also report that they communicate through one of many "central transmitting agencies" on the Other Side.​

In short, this phenomenon is nothing new, and neither are attempts at quantifying the event or proving that they are paranormal. Yet over all the decades and after all the many investigators' attempts, nothing has ever been proven. Tracey has a long road ahead of her, a road trodden by many since the 1920s.

The next section of the Encyclopedia deals with the "various ways to attempt to record EVP voices".
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Maybe Scrappy is a spirit! :jaw-dropp
 
AdMan said:
I'm truly amazed how scrappy's use of the language has improved in little over a month.

Just a couple of early posts to illustrate the comparison to the above post:

Truly, the E in JREF works in mysterious ways! ;)
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I had noticed that myself today and even found the posts, but I forgot to note the dates. Amazing, isn't it? Maybe the spirits are altering his posts for grammar and spelling before he makes them, as a sort of ethereal spell-checker :jaw-dropp

Maybe the spirits do tutoring from BEYOND THE GRAVE

OOOoooOOOoooOOOoooOOOooo
 
Apology said:
I had noticed that myself today and even found the posts, but I forgot to note the dates. Amazing, isn't it? Maybe the spirits are altering his posts for grammar and spelling before he makes them, as a sort of ethereal spell-checker :jaw-dropp

Maybe the spirits do tutoring from BEYOND THE GRAVE

OOOoooOOOoooOOOoooOOOooo
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That's possible. :eek:

Or, just maybe, we are dealing with people who are very much alive, as well as very much (clumsily) dishonest.

I know where I'm leaning to.
 
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AdMan said:
That's possible. :eek:

Or, just maybe, we are dealing with people who are very much alive, as well as very much (clumsily) dishonest.

I know where I'm leaning to.
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Yes, me too, although scrappy could be making a bit of an effort with his posts lately since he's been ribbed about them so much.
 
scrappy said:
I don't think the GP was frantic at all, quite the opposite. He was relieved to hear that Tracey doesn't now need to go to the press. She herself is relieved as she didn't want to go down that route either. The GP gave Tracey some very good advice, and she will be taking the advice.

There is no "renewed" interest, its as it was 6 months ago.
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scrappy said:
Tracey actually prefers Alderbank to observe any such meeting. The meet is long overdue and yet to be arranged between her and the Rev. I know she didn't know about the PM because I have just told her about it. She has been asking me to keep an eye out for any posts from Alderbank.

I didn't abandon your files. Before you sent anything through, Tracey decided to stop annoying posters here and go down the next route (the press)
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Posted 12 minutes apart, and contradictory. Do you wonder why we don't take you seriously, scrappy?

IXP
 
IXP said:
Posted 12 minutes apart, and contradictory. Do you wonder why we don't take you seriously, scrappy?
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As far as I can gather the sequence of events was:

1. flaccon fails to get any attention from the church for her claims, so comes here with them

2. flaccon gets fed up with the responses here (pointing out her continuing failure to offer any objective evidence for her claims) and decides to go to the press, but before she does ...

3. flaccon finally gets a response from the Reverend(s) agreeing to a meeting and, as attention from the church is what she's always wanted, decides not to go to the press (yet?)

4. flaccon visits her GP and tells him about the proposed meeting and that she is no longer intending to go to the press, GP is understandably relieved
 
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