Latest Bigfoot "evidence"

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Northern Lights said:
Recognition is the key element to a hoax and is the driving component which ties them all together.
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This doesn't make sense at all. The overwhelming majority of presented Bigfoot evidence are the anecdotal eyewitness encounter reports. You must know that that is true. The vast majority of those reports are anonymous (or name withheld by database owners) and cannot possibly provide any recognition. You cannot recognize and admire a person who has no name or face.

You blew it man. The majority of hoaxers are not looking for fame or fortune. They are looking to have people think that Bigfoot exists. Their phony story about encountering Bigfoot provides that. Period. There is nothing more to say about their motivation because nothing exists other than their story.
 
Northern Lights said:
III. Type of Hoax-

Direct: This approach has the hoaxer fabricating the incident and releasing it for consumption.

Indirect: This approach has the hoaxer fabricating the incident and having a third party view it and ultimately report it. This method is reliant upon the third party to act upon what was witnessed and removes the hoaxer from the incident and all trails leading to them.
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Indirect #2: This approach has a person saying that "evidence" is authentic when they know for a fact that it is hoaxed. But this person is not the fabricator or the initial reporter.
 
Over and over I see Bigfoot believers discuss hoaxer profile and motivation but none of them hit a particular mark.

They never ever mention the joy and satisfaction that can be derived from perpetuating cherished American folklore. Don't give me money. Don't give me fame. You don't even have to thank me. Just enjoy believing that Bigfoot exists. The story I wrote for you will help you do that.
 
William Parcher said:
This doesn't make sense at all. The overwhelming majority of presented Bigfoot evidence are the anecdotal eyewitness encounter reports. You must know that that is true. The vast majority of those reports are anonymous (or name withheld by database owners) and cannot possibly provide any recognition. You cannot recognize and admire a person who has no name or face.

You blew it man. The majority of hoaxers are not looking for fame or fortune. They are looking to have people think that Bigfoot exists. Their phony story about encountering Bigfoot provides that. Period. There is nothing more to say about their motivation because nothing exists other than their story.
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I respectfully disagree. I believe the vast majority of witnesses submitting reports couldn't care less whether Sasquatches are proven or not. I do agree that some are absolutely hoaxes, but they are in the minority, in my experience.

William Parcher said:
Indirect #2: This approach has a person saying that "evidence" is authentic when they know for a fact that it is hoaxed. But this person is not the fabricator or the initial reporter.
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I like it. I've updated my profile. Thanks
 
Northern Lights said:
I respectfully disagree. I believe the vast majority of witnesses submitting reports couldn't care less whether Sasquatches are proven or not.
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This sentence looks like a non sequitur but maybe you could try saying it again with different words or more detail.
 
William Parcher said:
Over and over I see Bigfoot believers discuss hoaxer profile and motivation but none of them hit a particular mark.

They never ever mention the joy and satisfaction that can be derived from perpetuating cherished American folklore. Don't give me money. Don't give me fame. You don't even have to thank me. Just enjoy believing that Bigfoot exists. The story I wrote for you will help you do that.
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Correct, One of the originals, and the best, never told anyone other than his close family. He didn't want fame or fortune. He just enjoyed fooling people.
 
Northern Lights said:
That is correct, (they don't confess) until they're backed so far into a corner they have no other choice.
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Here's what happened when Bigfoot hoaxer Ray Wallace got cornered. He threatened to sue the police....


"Then things started getting weird..."

...A $1,000 reward was offered to anyone who could explain the mystery, which was, proclaimed the Times' sister paper the Humboldt Standard, either a hoax or “a mentally deficient, over-grown boy gone wild.”

Only 10 days later, it was Times reporter Bill Chambers on the case. Chambers reported that the Humboldt County Sheriff's Office was convinced they had the man responsible for the footprints in Bluff Creek, and that he would confess. But when construction worker Ray Wallace -- the supposed hoaxer -- was contacted by the Times about the allegations, he reacted angrily.

”I'm not going in. If they want to put out a warrant I'm going to sue them for slander -- and I won't fool around about it!” Wallace said. “If they think they're going to make a laughing stock out of me, they've got another thing coming.”

Wallace's brother W.R. “Shorty” Wallace insisted that no one would work all day in the Bluff Creek country and then run around planting footprints.
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Yeah, he threatened to sue the Humboldt County Sheriff's Office. We know that this is something that hoaxers do when cornered because we see that a Bigfoot hoaxer did that. Are there any other Bigfoot hoaxers who have threatened to sue or cause harm because they are being accused and "cornered"?
 
Northern Lights said:
To my knowledge, no. Do you know a wolf biologist? I don't.
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It never dawned on you that you could offer the recording to people who work with MN wildlife and ask them if we are hearing known animals? You don't have to actually know these people personally to know that they exist in the world.

Instead you push the recording straight to the Bigfooter community. Hey fellow Bigfoot believer, what do you think about these sounds? Did you skip the proper steps because you already know that we are not hearing wolves?
 
BTW, that Rolf Peterson guy, he is super nice.

Don't ask him if it is Bigfoot though. Ask him if he recognizes these sounds you recorded in Northern Minnesota. See what he says. Keep the clip as short as possible, don't waste his time with a 4 minute clip.
 
Northern Lights said:
To my knowledge, no. Do you know a wolf biologist? I don't.

It has been analyzed here:

http://youtu.be/pmWXp3jAKoI

I would still be interested in hearing why you conclusively believe this is a hoax.
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There are "wood knocks" in there coinciding with the vocals. The "analyst" mentions it and I can hear it. But I seem to remember you writing about train sounds being heard too. Is the "wood knocking" the sound of a train rolling on tracks or is that the sound of Bigfoots communicating with each other? I'm pretty sure that wolves don't knock wood.
 
I didn't hear any definitive wood knocks. If there are just one or two of them then it would be really difficult to distinguish the sound of tree trunks naturally "checking" in the cool evening air from a doofus smacking a tree with a 2X4. If you have obviously intentionally generated wood knocks plus the whoops then all you need is a little "Samurai chatter" for the trifecta of bigfoot stupidity.

I hear a wolf that occasionally sounds human or a human imitating a wolf. Take your pick. I hear some coyotes. I hear a distant train. I hear the "slaps" but I haven't yet figured out the source of those sounds. I suppose this means that an experienced wildlife ecologist and professor at a major research university has listened to the sounds and has heard some that he can't explain. You know what that means when an expert labels something "unidentified"? BIGFOOT!!!
 
Good morning.
I love reading these threads. Latest Bigfoot evidence? Has there ever been any credible evidence? I heard talks of DNA. How did that work out? Lots of new species discovered all the time. Tiny and hard to see. One would think a 500-800 lbs stink ape that lives amongst us might have given us some clues they exist.

So still just a work in progress. Although doesn't work imply doing something? Nothing seems to be getting done.
 
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