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Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

Clayton Moore said:
At 1:45 of the video the nose of Flight 175 exits the tower INTACT. Can you explain that?
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That isn't surprising or suspicious to me, in fact it's something that I would expect to happen. Then again, I'm not a conspiratard.
 
Mudcat said:
That isn't surprising or suspicious to me, in fact it's something that I would expect to happen. Then again, I'm not a conspiratard.
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You shouldn't expect that to happen because it's impossible and it did not happen. What appears to be the nose cone poking out at low resolution is confirmed by higher res images to be a mass of debris and dust shooting out.
 
Calyton the truther fantasy has been throughly debunked in all its various increeasingly ludricous forms, along the way I only use these trheads have been is for educated and knowledgeable peeople to share their knowledge for which I am eternally grateful, learnt a lot about structures and engineering, some of the math is way beyond me but I freely admit that unlike you.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Why do you think a relatively light per square ft. mostly aluminum jet could enter a building without visual signs of a concussive event?

The nose should have been scrunched. It was not. Not even a tad.

The wings should have been repelled but no they slipped into the tower unconcerned alongside of the 6000lb. engine(s).

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Two Boeing 767s Vanish into Twin Towers
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Maybe chrismohr will enlighten me as to how the pictured jet managed to enter the building without becoming visibly damaged and how the fuel laden wings did not explode immediately from the friction of the collision.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQWzdc175A

And then please explain how, at 1:45 of the video, the nose of Flight 175 exits the tower INTACT. Can you explain that?

How can one of the weakest parts of a jet go through a steel enforced wall into the building and out through a steel enforced wall on the other side and remain UNDAMGED?

All attempts to answer are welcomed.
 
Clayton Moore said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQWzdc175A

At 1:45 of the video the nose of Flight 175 exits the tower INTACT. Can you explain that?
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You have identified that dark smudge as the intact nose section of flight 175. Can you explain that? How can you tell?

If it really were the nose section of a plane emerging intact from the building, why did it not remain intact but rather continue to expand into a cloud of debris?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Maybe chrismohr will enlighten me as to how the pictured jet managed to enter the building without becoming visibly damaged and how the fuel laden wings did not explode immediately from the friction of the collision.
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The answer is a simple now as it was every previous time it's been explained to you. The plane did not enter the building undamaged. You can't see it being shredded as it's doing so as it enters the building, and you can't see inside the building.

Fuel is not a high explosive. It's a fuel. The clue is in the name. The fundamental difference between the two is that a fuel does not burn or explode until it is mixed with air. Expecting the fuel to spontaneously explode before it even has time to travel the distance into the building is fantasy physics.

But you already know that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQWzdc175A

And then please explain how, at 1:45 of the video, the nose of Flight 175 exits the tower INTACT. Can you explain that?

How can one of the weakest parts of a jet go through a steel enforced wall into the building and out through a steel enforced wall on the other side and remain UNDAMGED?

All attempts to answer are welcomed.
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It doesn't.

You already know that too, even if you don't want to believe it.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
You have identified that dark smudge as the intact nose section of flight 175. Can you explain that? How can you tell?

If it really were the nose section of a plane emerging intact from the building, why did it not remain intact but rather continue to expand into a cloud of debris?
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That's how the editing software misfired.
 
On a live feed...from a helicopter. On one of 44 distinctly different video captures of the event. It's one of the more trite retorts, yet for some it's still excellent advice: get a new hobby.
 
Clayton Moore said:
That's how the editing software misfired.
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Which editing software? Please try to be precise.

That might in principle be regarded as one potential explanation, but if only there were some eyewitnesses to the event or other independent video recordings of it we might be able to make a better assessment of how likely it is that the dark, blurry mass you indicated is an anomalous software artefact or whether it's actually a real physical entity. If only there had been anyone interested enough to be watching the WTC at that time we might be able to say whether any debris or aircraft parts had suddenly emerged from the tower at that moment or not.

I guess until an eyewitness comes forward it'll just remain a mystery. Perhaps you could put out an appeal to ask if anyone saw anything unusual occur at the WTC on 9/11/2001.
 
Plenty of people saw something unusual, two large ariplanes flown into the buildings.

3,000 of them died.
 
brazenlilraisin said:
You shouldn't expect that to happen because it's impossible and it did not happen. What appears to be the nose cone poking out at low resolution is confirmed by higher res images to be a mass of debris and dust shooting out.
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Thanks for the correction. Should've known better than to take a Truther at their word.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Maybe chrismohr will enlighten me as to how the pictured jet managed to enter the building without becoming visibly damaged and how the fuel laden wings did not explode immediately from the friction of the collision.
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This comment makes me aware of the fact that you know less about combustible liquids than you do about aircraft, if that is possible.

Clayton Moore said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQWzdc175A
And then please explain how, at 1:45 of the video, the nose of Flight 175 exits the tower INTACT. Can you explain that?

How can one of the weakest parts of a jet go through a steel enforced wall into the building and out through a steel enforced wall on the other side and remain UNDAMGED?

All attempts to answer are welcomed.
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I can answer this question in very few words; the nose section of the aircraft did not exit the building. Well, maybe a few parts and pieces did, but not the whole section.
 
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SUSpilot said:
As I recall, you stated that wake turbulence follows along and "catches up" with the aircraft that caused it, when said aircraft stops generating lift, correct? In other words, when United 175 crashed into the second tower, at a level lower than the first impact, the wake should have (for lack of a better term) "piled up" against the side of the building and disturbed the air, and thus the smoke and dust that was suspended above it. Before I go on, is that a reasonable summation of your point?
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@WTC Dust: I think you missed this. Is this a fair summary of what you've said about aircraft wake turbulence?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Maybe chrismohr will enlighten me as to how the pictured jet managed to enter the building without becoming visibly damaged
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You expect the plane to be visibly damaged before hitting the building?

Clayton Moore said:
and how the fuel laden wings did not explode immediately from the friction of the collision.
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Within a millisecond IS immediately.
 
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