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Nope. Bigfoot is bad news for them. Would mean more conservation and reserve areas.
No hunting allowed is bad for NRA too!
No logging and no mining too, increasing the anti-bigfoot lobby.

Oh, its aslo illegal to shot a bigfoot and the government would quickly get its hands on the body.

Not to mention the other collateral effect- bigfoot is shown to be real, the next moment thousands of hunters will be in the woods trying to bag one, and bigfoots may be humans, with souls!
 
Well I think something simply went genetically awry if the people actually exist.
 
Drewbot said:
Sykes DNA results leAked?
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Hypothetical question for the collective group.

If (big if), Dr. Sykes comes out with his report stating his DNA study confirms a previously uncategorized species (Sasquatch), will that be enough for this crowd or not? Does Dr. Sykes carry enough clout and is far enough removed from the footer community to swing the door the other direction?

Just wondering?
 
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I might be, I would have to read the paper, but if he clearly establishes a GIANT APE MAN existing, then it would definitely allow for an altering of positions with regard to GIANT APE MEN existing. Where should we look?, How Old is the sample? If it is from the Himalayas, does it affect the existence of BIGFOOT in N. America?

Same question to you.

If Dr. Sykes comes out with his report stating his DNA study confirms no previously uncategorized species, will that be enough for Bigfooters to say "OK, that settles it, there is no Bigfoot"?
 
Northern Lights said:
Hypothetical question for the collective group.

If (big if), Dr. Sykes comes out with his report stating his DNA study confirms a previously categorized species (Sasquatch), will that be enough for this crowd or not? Does Dr. Sykes carry enough clout and is far enough removed from the footer community to swing the door the other direction?

Just wondering?
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Previously categorized? Sasquatch? When?
 
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Whoops, my bad. Corrected. Thanks
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My answer would be we had that attempted already from Ketchum (DVM), which poisons it a bit for me.

ETA: Answering this.
Originally Posted by Northern Lights
Hypothetical question for the collective group.

If (big if), Dr. Sykes comes out with his report stating his DNA study confirms a previously categorized species (Sasquatch), will that be enough for this crowd or not? Does Dr. Sykes carry enough clout and is far enough removed from the footer community to swing the door the other direction?

Just wondering?
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Any real[ evidence would be welcomed I think by most posters on this forum. The problem is that no such evidence exists and the endless hoaxes and crackpot stories make it harder and harder to read this stuff. As some of the long time posters here have pointed out repeatedly, in 400 plus years of colonial rule and nation status, not one body, body part or clear unambiguous photo exists of bigfoot. For me, it has taken on the aspect of time spent that I cannot get back when I read another story to add to the thousands of stories that allready exist. I think that the Sykes project will not be the happy result that many bigfoot enthusiasts are hoping for.
 
Northern Lights said:
Hypothetical question for the collective group.

If (big if), Dr. Sykes comes out with his report stating his DNA study confirms a previously uncategorized species (Sasquatch), will that be enough for this crowd or not? Does Dr. Sykes carry enough clout and is far enough removed from the footer community to swing the door the other direction?

Just wondering?
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AFAIK, the best that could be done would be to say the DNA is not identifiable, or words to that effect.

It couldn't confirm a sasquatch, or any other uncategorized new species of critter.
 
Northern Lights said:
Does Dr. Sykes carry enough clout . . .
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Sykes' clout is completely irrelevant. If he has a piece of bigfoot, he can prove that it's a piece of bigfoot, and independent analysis on the same material comes to the same conclusion, then there's your bigfoot. It's ultimately the physical evidence that matters, not the person commenting on that evidence.

Also, your reference to "this crowd" in your question was an interesting choice of words. You do realize that this crowd here at the JREF asks for no more evidence of bigfoot than we have for any other of the more than 1 million species that have been named and described, right? Whatever impossible standard of scoffticism you might perceive here, it is no different than the evidenciary standard required for the recognition of a new species by the ICZN.
 
If Bigfoot is ever truly confirmed to exist it will be on the front page of every news source worldwide. It will be the first thing that any news program talks about.

If you don't see that happen you know that it wasn't really a confirmation. Actually, a person would never need to read a single post on any Bigfooter forum to know when Bigfoot becomes real. It's exactly the same situation with mermaids. Exactly the same.
 
The Shrike said:
Sykes' clout is completely irrelevant. If he has a piece of bigfoot, he can prove that it's a piece of bigfoot, and independent analysis on the same material comes to the same conclusion, then there's your bigfoot. It's ultimately the physical evidence that matters, not the person commenting on that evidence.

Also, your reference to "this crowd" in your question was an interesting choice of words. You do realize that this crowd here at the JREF asks for no more evidence of bigfoot than we have for any other of the more than 1 million species that have been named and described, right? Whatever impossible standard of scoffticism you might perceive here, it is no different than the evidenciary standard required for the recognition of a new species by the ICZN.
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^^Excellent post The Shrike. You highlight another big 'not talked about' where we (skeptics) are somehow requiring above standard 'proof' to accept Bigfoot's existence. Only a bunch of hallucinating Bigfoot maroons could transform 'show me a body' into being offended enough to quip 'unattainable standards of proof no reasonable person should ever be required to provide'.

Also, who's this Rhettman Mullis freak? And why is he desperately trying to get Dr. Sykes to adopt him despite being 43 years old? Taken (almost) randomly from his Bigfootology blog:

"...and the good doctor is resting comfortably now. I just rubbed his tummy after giving him a warm bottle of mimi <hehe that's what we call it here at Dewwit, Spillet and Goh DNA International™> and he's snoring away like a baby...that umm, snores. Please don't worry all you little micro-footers out there in Big Footerland, macro-footer Rhettman Mullis is on the job. To spill some secrets out of school, I've got the dear Dr. just where I want him. Rest assured, if I have to make him murder divorce his wife and marry the sum ***** myself, we'll get our Bigfoot EXISTS confirmation. That's because my DNA, the doctor's DNA and even Bigfoot DNA is a wonderful and magical thing, and wonderful and magical things never die. And as the good Dr. could attest, DNA is nothing if not an integral part of ALL our hopes and dreams and tummy rubs and happy endings."

A freak I tell ya. ;)
 
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LTC8K6 said:
AFAIK, the best that could be done would be to say the DNA is not identifiable, or words to that effect.

It couldn't confirm a sasquatch, or any other uncategorized new species of critter.
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Hmmm, this isn't true. With a successful DNA analysis, one could know exactly where it is on the tree of life and what it is. There's really no such thing as unknown DNA since everything will fit somewhere on the tree of life. From bacteria to 800lb monkeys.
 
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Will the DNA tell you that the thing weighs 800lbs, all shaggy, huge feet and with a dome head? Will the DNA tell you if the thing is 3 feet tall, nearly hairless and weighs 45lbs?

Or do you need the actual creature to allow you to know you have Bigfoot?
 
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There's really no such thing as unknown DNA since everything will fit somewhere on the tree of life. From bacteria to 800lb monkeys.
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Lots of the former, exactly none of the latter.

You're gonna need a type specimen to back those labs up anyway. Blame Ketchum (DVM) for that.

Won't be holding my breath waiting for either.
 
OntarioSquatch said:
There's really no such thing as unknown DNA since everything will fit somewhere on the tree of life.
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Real science is always more fascinating and even fantastical than cryptozoology.

I'd wager that most here readily accept the probability of life elsewhere in the universe, and also possibly in forms that we do not currently even define as "life" since the only thing we have a grip on is earth-based forms of life.

Crypto-groupies never ask about real issues that science is actively concerning itself with like life on Mars or in other solar systems as a means of seeing how open-minded we are. We don't even have evidence of life on other planets. Yet we are not only ready but eager to suggest the existence of life elsewhere based upon the increasing number of discoveries that the conditions for life on this planet are reproduced elsewhere.

The deceit involved in these inane "what-if" statements is to pose something preposterous happening, and then ask if that would finally end the skeptic's closed-mindedness. The person is never interested in the answer. It is only a rhetorical question with a false framing.

The false framing is that the skeptic is so closed-minded that it takes incontrovertible evidence to even admit to the possibility.

I would readily admit to the possible existence if there was an unexplored continent on the earth. You wouldn't have to bring me DNA evidence, or stupid stories, or any of the other claptrap from bigfoot organizations. The existence of great apes and historical forms of man is suggestive enough of the possibility.
 
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