Pareidolia and/or hallucinations make the least assumptions and require no unknowns. They are also consistent with how the brain works. So yes. It's the most intellectually honest answer based on probabilities. Ghosts don't exist. Get over it and stop living in the stone age of ancestor worship. Your life will be much much more fulfilling sans superstition - mine sure is. I don't miss my days of mediumship at all. The world's a far more interesting and amazing place without nonsense.
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Pareidolia and/or hallucinations make the least assumptions and require no unknowns. They are also consistent with how the brain works. So yes. It's the most intellectually honest answer based on probabilities. Ghosts don't exist. Get over it and stop living in the stone age of ancestor worship. Your life will be much much more fulfilling sans superstition - mine sure is. I don't miss my days of mediumship at all. The world's a far more interesting and amazing place without nonsense.
Vortigern99
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Right let me get this straight, you seriously believe that the voice that now comes out of your computer is a supernatural, invisible, intangible, magical spirit?
Right let me get this straight, you seriously believe that the voice that now comes out of your computer is a supernatural, invisible, intangible, magical spirit?
Should be easy enough to prove - round 110 love fifteen. Provided of course scrappy or whoever else is involved in this pantomime wants it tested. Which isn't likely.
Ampulla of Vater
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Does this mean you believe the words and sentences exist because she is honest/trustworthy? A person can be entirely trustworthy and completely wrong simultaneously.
Pretty much, it's a red herring. Trusting someone with your life doesn't have any relevance to what we are discussing. It's completely irrelevant.
Here's a cool example of pareidolia courtesy of Phil Plait:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/07/01/pareidolia_reflections_of_a_face_on_my_wall.html
eta: another turn up for the cards
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/06/29/meteor_crater_pareidolia_shadow_face_in_an_impact_crater.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/07/01/pareidolia_reflections_of_a_face_on_my_wall.html
eta: another turn up for the cards
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/06/29/meteor_crater_pareidolia_shadow_face_in_an_impact_crater.html
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Alderbank
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Yes, I do think you are deluded about the spirit voices and I’ll tell you why I think so.
A few pages ago I asked you about the human voices on a recording. You gave simple clear reasons why they were not Greek and why the female voice was flaccon. You answered like any normal, rational person would do. By contrast you completely ignore any questions about the spirit recordings. Every time. You have not once offered any scrap of evidence in support of your wild assertions about them. You are simply unable to speak rationally about them. That is delusional behaviour.
You will not respond to abaddon’s post #4358 above because you can’t see it. Your selective word blindness is part of your delusion.
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SezMe
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I hear ya, abaddon. No argument. The whole enchilada is just so damn frustrating at this point. I outta unsubscribe but my morbid curiosity trumps my good sense.
SezMe
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Did this request happen to be recorded? If so, please send it to us so we'll get off your back.
Seconded. That goes for Mr Roberts too. They think they are "brave" warriors in the battle of light against darkness, but this is a mundane delusion you can see pretty much in every churchgoer, not a reason to institutionise them.
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Let us hear it and we'll tell you what we think it is.
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Maurice Ledifficile
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I don't know. Perhaps. Or, you're deliberately lying; or ludicrously credulous. You want to buy my watch?
Lies.
All evidence so far points toward the fact that people in Tracey's family do not believe a word of any of it.
Lies
There is absolutely no evidence that her GP is backing this fairy tale.
Useless.
Mr. Bulger is not credible. Has not contributed any evidence either.
Hearsay. At best. Utterly irrelevant.
Hearsay. At best. Utterly irrelevant.
Who? Yeah, right. You have nothing. Nothing at all. It wouldn't matter if the entire royal family and seventeen Nobel prize winners were backing you up. Witnesses are useless. Even credible witnesses are useless for this type of claim, and you don't even have that.
You still have no evidence at all. Not even close. You don't even know what that even means.
All you're doing is helping Tracey ruin her life with this crap. Have you no shame?
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There is no evidence that the spirits exist. Let alone that they are charitable. They sure aren't charitable toward Tracey.
If you actually think there's money to be made here, you are beyond delusional. There's no product. There isn't a market for no product.
Unless you lie about having a product, or make claims that the "product" can't live up to.
That's illegal. And rightly so.
Every single big time scammer out there, from the faith healer to the primetime medium, is giving everything away to charity. The mansions and jets are just gifts.
Either bring some proof, or admit you're backing a scam.
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I agree with Maurice on this. How does money come into the picture, exactly?
jsfisher
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$pirit buck$. Can be redeemed at any mausoleum.
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So, despite her denials, she is making money off this as previously claimed on her website, by giving readings? She is aware that is illegal, right?
You continue to believe in paredolia, so yes.
We haven't seen any evidence other members of her family believe any of her claims.
The letter from her GP did not indicate that he believes a word she says. I'm betting he doesn't.
Yes, because he apparently continues to believe that the paredolia are the voices of spirits.
Dude, do you even understand what hearsay is? We have no evidence these people even exist, much less what they believe or don't believe. So stop holding them up as "proof". It's ridiculous.
Oh, please. Melodrama much?
No, it's evidence it is paredolia. YOU believe it is spirits. So, yes, you are delusional.
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Maurice Ledifficile
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Tracey’s pitch on Dragon’s Den.
I can pretend to hear spirits on recordings, then actually convince some people that they are spirits who can guide you and heal you. And make art. And they have a message for the human race. It’s about Jeebus.
Business plan:
Step 1: Get help from a Bishop
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit (for charity, of course)
[I'd just love to see Theo {UK} or Kevin {Can} rip this to shreds.]
I can pretend to hear spirits on recordings, then actually convince some people that they are spirits who can guide you and heal you. And make art. And they have a message for the human race. It’s about Jeebus.
Business plan:
Step 1: Get help from a Bishop
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit (for charity, of course)
[I'd just love to see Theo {UK} or Kevin {Can} rip this to shreds.]
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Vortigern99
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Filled in the blank spot of your otherwise astonishing business plan.
I think Tracey and scrappy think the media is going to give them money for their story.
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