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A woman haunted by spirits seeks the help of skeptics on an online forum. They try to convince her that what she hears is pareidola, but the spirits will have none of it. The skeptics foolishly upload audio files, which she plays on her laptop, allowing the spirits to jump to the machines of the skeptics. Soon, the entire skeptical community is overcome by this this evil force. They appeal the chruch for help, and get the answer "In your dreams" encoded in the compression artifacts of a recorded papal edict. And this is just the beginning...

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I feel the same and join the exodus. I'd stick around but when only a few questions are answered, and then in such language that simply encrypts, well -- what's the point?

flaccon, I hope you get over this silliness. Stop spending time searching for signals in noise. This goes for your recordings and your impending shift onto television. Oh, blood stains too. Get another hobby.
 
flaccon,

Do the voices on "We don't belong in a circus" sound as much like voices to you as the ones on "flaccon_1"?

If not, how do you account for the fact that, on that one file only, there are sounds that clearly sound like voices rather than noise?

Also, how do you account for the fact that on "flaccon_1" you cannot understand what they are saying, whereas on "We don't belong in a circus" you can?

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Fact is, I have no idea what you are listening to, or how it sounds. It was reported to me that there is loss of quality, distortion, loss of volume. As these are not actually pre recorded voices, I have to consider that as a reason for the loss of quality after upload.

I recall sending a friend many recordings of silliness (nothing spiritual) and I was able to receive recorded files back, without quality loss, distortion etc. Alderbanks own silent upload to Box.com did not show loss of quality either.

Their voices are often different. They are channelling through electrics and they speak in unison (some louder than others) I can only understand what is clear enough to understand.
 
I feel the same and join the exodus. I'd stick around but when only a few questions are answered, and then in such language that simply encrypts, well -- what's the point?

flaccon, I hope you get over this silliness. Stop spending time searching for signals in noise. This goes for your recordings and your impending shift onto television. Oh, blood stains too. Get another hobby.

I have a fine hobby thank u
 
Coming soon! Stephen King's new novel "Pareidolia"

A woman haunted by spirits seeks the help of skeptics on an online forum. They try to convince her that what she hears is pareidola, but the spirits will have none of it. The skeptics foolishly upload audio files, which she plays on her laptop, allowing the spirits to jump to the machines of the skeptics. Soon, the entire skeptical community is overcome by this this evil force. They appeal the chruch for help, and get the answer "In your dreams" encoded in the compression artifacts of a recorded papal edict. And this is just the beginning...

Get is now, on Amazon.com for just $6.66!

IXP

There is nothing at all evil about this.
 
Look, I offered to leave this thread alone, a few times. We are getting nowhere. No one will send me a recording, I do keep asking. Just a file of silence. Upload it toBox.com for all to hear. Then send it to my email address and lets see what happens? I'm willing to give it a go.

https://app.box.com/s/nr3ws3f36lmjuv92inbl

Here's 12 seconds of absolute silence, two-channel stereo.

Called silence.wav

Anyone can download by clicking on the Download box at the top of the file.

Original file name:
"8. E.V @ 6 secs -IT'S EVIDENT WE DONT BELONG IN A CIRCUS.wmv"

Attached three zip files: .wma clip normal, .wma clip amplified, .wma clip amplified+slow down.
Each zip file containing applicable sound graph and txt file with hash for the audio file.

You be the judge.


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No voices that I hear. Perhaps Caleprime can give us his take on what that noise is.


There's nothing even remotely resembling a human voice in that.

There are a few thumps that are probably some kind of mic noise, and then the watery sound.

It doesn't have any ambient background noise, just hiss, and the thumps.

I played around with the sound for a while, tried cleaning it up. But there's just nothing interesting about it.

Whatever that sound was, it may have begun life as noise that got put through some kind of resonant filtering, but there's nothing left of it.

I could analyze the frequencies, but that would be a waste of time, and there's just nothing there, really.

I enjoy showing off my area of expertise, but -- to loosely quote Raising Arizona -- this sound is a barren place where my chops can find no purchase.

What it isn't: anyone talking, any sound from the real world, etc. It's just some kind of artifact. Could be anything.
 
I'd say: Let me know if there's anything to hear or work on. Otherwise, from reading chapter 23 of Spirits-in-the-Blood, I think I'd heed chillzero's idea, and let this go, unless there's something to hear that Mr. jsfisher or Ms. Chill suggests.
 
I have a fine hobby thank u

No, you have an obsession. Significantly different. And you're right, there isn't't anything evil about this. Just sad and disturbing.

Here's an idea: stop spending hours listening for spirit voices that don't exist, and do something else. Find a charitable cause. Take long nature walks. Bowl. Whatever, just something productive and fulfilling.

Chill Zero is right.
 
There is nothing at all evil about this.

You actively engaging in rejecting the permanent loss of your parents, is bringing evil onto yourself.

If your GP reads this thread, let him be advised to call you in for a re-evaluation of your situation and seek proper assistance for you to deal with your obvious problems.
 
They do actually inform me of a lot, but nothing you would understand. They also provide me with names etc, places. Are you are asking if they are they psychic?

When are they going to save the world?
 
Fact is, I have no idea what you are listening to, or how it sounds. It was reported to me that there is loss of quality, distortion, loss of volume. As these are not actually pre recorded voices, I have to consider that as a reason for the loss of quality after upload.

I recall sending a friend many recordings of silliness (nothing spiritual) and I was able to receive recorded files back, without quality loss, distortion etc. Alderbanks own silent upload to Box.com did not show loss of quality either.

Their voices are often different. They are channelling through electrics and they speak in unison (some louder than others) I can only understand what is clear enough to understand.

That is yet another evasive answer which does not address the questions asked. You were asked how the files sound to you. You were asked why you think you can hear clearly distingiushable words on "we don't belong in a circus" (where the rest of us can't even hear any voices) but can't hear clear words on "Flaccon_1" where we all hear obvious voices but don't agree at all on what words are spoken. Please address these questions.

If you want to know what we are listening to, you can download the same files as us from box.com and play them just the same as we can. That's what we're listening to. If those downloads do not sound the same to you as their originals then by all means let us know.
 
Fact is, I have no idea what you are listening to, or how it sounds. It was reported to me that there is loss of quality, distortion, loss of volume. As these are not actually pre recorded voices, I have to consider that as a reason for the loss of quality after upload.

I recall sending a friend many recordings of silliness (nothing spiritual) and I was able to receive recorded files back, without quality loss, distortion etc. Alderbanks own silent upload to Box.com did not show loss of quality either.

Their voices are often different. They are channelling through electrics and they speak in unison (some louder than others) I can only understand what is clear enough to understand.
The "flaccon_1" file on box.com is the one with your voice on it speaking some langauge, that no-one can reliably make out the words. It has the highest volume, by probably a factor of 100, of any of the "spirit" samples. And by far the clearest (I would say only) voices. So why can you not make out what it says, when you can in other files that are clearly are noise and compression artifacts to everyone else on this forum?

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The "flaccon_1" file on box.com is the one with your voice on it speaking some langauge, that no-one can reliably make out the words. It has the highest volume, by probably a factor of 100, of any of the "spirit" samples. And by far the clearest (I would say only) voices. So why can you not make out what it says, when you can in other files that are clearly are noise and compression artifacts to everyone else on this forum?

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I have a theory on this. That file has clear speech sounds that are just below the threshold of understanding. Which does not allow your brain to "fill in" enough to turn it into meanigful speech. The ones with no clear voice allow your brain (or anyone else's) to fill in the needed sounds to make out words.

Did you listen to the example posted by Biscuit where you cannot make out what is said until you know what its says, then it sounds entirely different?

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To Maurice, I had replied to your post last night but I was timed out and lost the lot. Your words were very endearing, and probably only the second post of yours that I've read twice. It does seem that Psychology has everything covered, and I do have no alternative but to bow down to Paredolia, delusion, mass hallucination, despite the reports of the spirits latest ability.

Despite the checksum to the "VolNormInt" file, js did report a "constant" rain & fan noise. When Mr Roberts played me a copy of the file over the phone, it had a steady flow right the way through, as did Alderbanks file. There were no interfernces whatsoever. I finally managed to retrieve the copy that js sent to me via email, and on playback there was significant differences to the file that Mr Roberts had played me. I asked Mr Roberts to check the copy he had, and that too had altered in the same manner. Js then uploaded "VolNormInt" to Box.com, containing the same significant differences. The checksum does not alter if the files are identical, I understand this, and yes the files are identical, but originally there was no interferences on the original, nor the copy of the original that Mr Roberts played to me via land line. Alderbanks upload was identical to what Mr Roberts played me via land line. Jsfishers had significant differences. Wouldn't you say that it is worthy to test this under a more observing eye? It is actually nothing to lose against everything to gain. Like I keep suggesting, if we stop concentrating on voices and images, we can immediately rule out paredolia.

Please look at the full world around you. Don't just pick out the beauty simply because we are still fortunate enough to do so, despite its contamination. Must I be grateful for that? Whats round the corner for us at this rate is anyones guess. Creating oneself a bubble, theorising, assuming or ticking boxes that other men create, only provides a tempory solution to the grander scale of things to come. Life could be better for everyone. I don't claim to have the solution to that, but the spirits do. So my personal experiences aside, despite the ridicule, and at the risk of losing everything that I hold dear to me, I do see something that just might work, and if I don't try, I'll not forgive myself. However if I try and fail, at least I tried.

My grief at the loss of my parents. I dealt with the feelings of shock, blame, anger, sorrow, reclusion. Accepting they don't exist any more, is not possible considering my understanding of the spirit world. I can only accept that they entered into it. After 3 years and no sign of contact despite my attempts, I accepted that they had moved on, this enabled me to do the same thing.

Thank you for the more informal introduction Andre, and I shall look forward to chewing the cud with you and others in future threads. I'm always keen to learn the things I don't know.

Correction * informal
 
Did you listen to the example posted by Biscuit where you cannot make out what is said until you know what its says, then it sounds entirely different?

I liked that a lot.

I heard:
An English female voice say "And now with the news <something> lunchtime"
Which I was gratified to find wasn't completely wrong.
 
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