Vaccine/autism CT discussion

[pakeha]

All the vaccine zombies should get the 8 vaccines in one visit that babies get with the volume of additives increased in proportion to their body size with a baby.


http://www.livestrong.com/article/148862-the-normal-weight-height-of-babies-at-age-2/






Do you honestly believe that as many as 37 doses of 14 vaccines by the age of two, and as many as eight vaccines in a single visit could be medically wise?

Let's use 20 pounds for the baby and 200 pounds for an average 30 year old man. Inject 10 times the vaccine additives into him for each vaccine of a baby's recommended schedule for two years.



http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm

What does this have to do autism, CM?

 

[dafydd]

Clayton, how would you go about preventing disease? How would you deal with smallpox, measles, diphtheria and polio? Give us the benefit of your vast knowledge of the subject.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Clayton, how would you go about preventing disease? How would you deal with smallpox, measles, diphtheria and polio? Give us the benefit of your vast knowledge of the subject.

I'd use the Scientific and Medical Community's vast resources to detect and cure disease.

If the money spent on vaccines since 1960 had been spent on cures and treatments I'm sure measles would be less serious than the sniffles.

 

[dafydd]

I'd use the Scientific and Medical Community's vast resources to detect and cure disease.

If the money spent on vaccines since 1960 had been spent on cures and treatments I'm sure measles would be less serious than the sniffles.

Sorry, I was mistaken about your vast medical knowledge. Huge steps have been made in the fields of cures and treatments. My chronic leukemia is being successfully treated. Vaccines have been a boon to mankind. In the real world, that is.

 

[Clayton Moore]

What does this have to do autism, CM?

Split from the "what do you guys believe?" thread here.

Posted By: LashL

The proof of the pudding that there are conspiracies at high levels of society is media's insistence that there are NONE.

Let's see. Big pharma and the mainstream media insist vaccines are absolutely safe but close to NONE of the vaccines are tested with a control group. They have convinced much of the American public that questioning the safety of vaccines is criminal.

Yet commercial after commercial airs up front and personal that if you've taken DRUG X, Y, or Z contact my law firm. Now you know those drugs, I think ZOLOFT is the star of the newer ripe for litigation drugs, were supposed to be tested with a control group! What happened.

And the media pretty much crucifies anyone who dares suggest a link between autism and vaccines. Why would the media trust and speak out for an industry/community with such a poor drug testing track record?

There you go.

 

[dafydd]

There you go.

No, he doesn't. He was talking about real evidence, not your misguided opinions on the subject.

 

[Clayton Moore]

No, he doesn't. He was talking about real evidence, not your misguided opinions on the subject.

I provided him the Original Post.

 

[Diogenes]

...He was talking about real evidence, not your misguided opinions on the subject.

I provided him the Original Post.

Which didn't answer the question.

Your essential premise on vaccines...which parallels your Zionist conspiracy position, apparently...is that denial of a conspiracy is proof a conspiracy exists.

That doesn't appear questionable at all?

 

[dafydd]

I provided him the Original Post.

Talking about questions.

Clayton Moore: Cite the studies showing the links between the MMR jab and autism.
First asked 4 March 2013 - 106 days and counting!
Clayton Moore, Do you really think that autism is a form of cancer?
First asked 8 April 2013 - 70 days and counting
Clayton Moore, Please cite the scientific evidence for levels of carcinogens in vaccines enough to affect the vaccinated.
First asked 8 April 2013 - 70 days and counting
Clayton Moore, Cite your evidence that vaccines cause allergies.
First asked 10 April 2013 - 70 days and counting
Clayton Moore, Cite your evidence that vaccines cause cancer.
First asked 10 April 2013 - 70 days and counting.
Clayton Moore, Cite your evidence that vaccines cause MS.
First asked 10 April 2013 - 70 days and counting
Clayton Moore: are you rational enough to understand that 2002 is not 2013, etc.
First asked 18 April 2013 - 62 days and counting
Clayton Moore, Please cite your evidence for the rise of autism between 1978 and 1988
First asked 26th April 2013 - 55 days and counting
Clayton Moore, Are you intelligent enough to cite the science that vaccines can cause asthma?
First asked 30th April 2013 - 50 days and counting
Clayton Moore: Sources for 60 years ago there was little fear of the measles, mumps, or chicken pox
First asked 14 May 2013 - 36 days and counting
Clayton Moore: Evidence for the increase in chronically sick people in the USA
First asked 15 May 2013 - 35 days and counting
Clayton Moore, Exactly how is the Danish study "bogus"?
First asked 24 May 2013 - 26 days and counting
Clayton Moore, What is your evidence that any immune system can be "over simulated"?
First asked 10 June 2013 - 9 days and counting
Clayton Moore, Have you any idea what a citation to the scientific literature is?
Your continued citations of crank web sites says no!
First asked 13 June 2013 - 7 days and counting
Clayton Moore, Cite the evidence that Al in vaccines increases Alzheimer’s Disease
First asked 14 June 2013 - 5 days and counting.
Clayton Moore, Please give the source for the cause of death of this "little girl"
This will actually take a while because you made up a fantasy about the cause while the ME's verdict is outstanding.
First asked 17 June 2013 - 2 days and counting.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Which didn't answer the question.

Your essential premise on vaccines...which parallels your Zionist conspiracy position, apparently...is that denial of a conspiracy is proof a conspiracy exists.

That doesn't appear questionable at all?

The drug industry pretty much owns the vaccine industry. It's pretty much like a guy named Vaccine Industry entering a bank with a stocking mask not being suspected of likely shenanigans.

 

[abaddon]

The drug industry pretty much owns the vaccine industry. It's pretty much like a guy named Vaccine Industry entering a bank with a stocking mask not being suspected of likely shenanigans.

You have nothing. Colour me unsurprised.

ETA: Oppsy random missing "u"

 

[dafydd]

The drug industry pretty much owns the vaccine industry. It's pretty much like a guy named Vaccine Industry entering a bank with a stocking mask not being suspected of likely shenanigans.

So you won't answer the questions. I wonder why?

 

[aggle-rithm]

The drug industry pretty much owns the vaccine industry. It's pretty much like a guy named Vaccine Industry entering a bank with a stocking mask not being suspected of likely shenanigans.

Worst.

Analogy.

EVER.

 

[Dcdrac]

so Mr Moore your evidence that MMR causes autism?

 

[Reality Check]

Clayton Moore's 21 statements and 127 days of ignorance and delusion

There you go.

That has nothing to do with the question:

Originally Posted by pakeha
What does this have to do autism, CM?

The OP is merely a statement of some of your paranoid fantasies about the pharmaceutical industry that you have never backed up with evidence.
The OP includes the ignorance of citing a drug (ZOLOFT) in a thread about vaccines!

Time to update Clayton Moore's 19 statements and 115 days of ignorance and delusion

1. Clayton Moore: Cite the studies showing the links between the MMR jab and autism.
   First asked 4 March 2013 - 127 days and counting!
2. Clayton Moore, Do you really think that autism is a form of cancer?
   First asked 8 April 2013 - 93 days and counting
3. Clayton Moore, Please cite the scientific evidence for levels of carcinogens in vaccines enough to affect the vaccinated.
   First asked 8 April 2013 - 91 days and counting
4. Clayton Moore, Cite your evidence that vaccines cause allergies.
   First asked 10 April 2013 - 91 days and counting
5. Clayton Moore, Cite your evidence that vaccines cause cancer.
   First asked 10 April 2013 - 91 days and counting
6. Clayton Moore, Cite your evidence that vaccines cause MS.
   First asked 10 April 2013 - 91 days and counting
7. Clayton Moore: are you rational enough to understand that 2002 is not 2013, etc.
   First asked 18 April 2013 - 83 days and counting
8. Clayton Moore, Please cite your evidence for the rise of autism between 1978 and 1988
   First asked 26th April 2013 - 76 days and counting
9. Clayton Moore, Are you intelligent enough to cite the science that vaccines can cause asthma?
   First asked 30th April 2013 - 68 days and counting
10. Clayton Moore: Sources for 60 years ago there was little fear of the measles, mumps, or chicken pox
    First asked 14 May 2013 - 57 days and counting
11. Clayton Moore: Evidence for the increase in chronically sick people in the USA
    First asked 15 May 2013 - 56 days and counting
12. Clayton Moore, Exactly how is the Danish study "bogus"?
    First asked 24 May 2013 - 47 days and counting
13. Clayton Moore, What is your evidence that any immune system can be "over simulated"?
    First asked 10 June 2013 - 29 days and counting
14. Clayton Moore, Have you any idea what a citation to the scientific literature is?
    Your continued citations of crank web sites says no!
    First asked 13 June 2013 - 28 days and counting
15. Clayton Moore, Cite the evidence that Al in vaccines increases Alzheimer’s Disease
    First asked 14 June 2013 - 26 days and counting
16. Clayton Moore, Please give the source for the cause of death of this "little girl"
    This will actually take a while because you made up a fantasy about the cause while the ME's verdict is outstanding.
    First asked 17 June 2013 - 22 days and counting
17. Clayton Moore, Can you cite the evidence that support your statement that vaccines are a "debacle"?
    First asked 24 June 2013 - 15 days and counting
18. Clayton Moore, Show that drug companies have a "poor drug testing track record"
    First asked 25 June 2013 - 14 days and counting
19. Clayton Moore, What is your evidence that the medical community is "basically" never taken to task on the safety of vaccines?
    First asked 25 June 2013 - 14 days and counting
20. The delusion of citing an upcoming film from an ignorant, paranoid anit-vaxer (Jeff Hays interviews the quack Andrew Wakefield!)
21. The delusion that there are mysterious "additives" in vaccines that harm children.
    Clayton Moore, Please supply a list of the current additives to vaccines that have been shown to harm children.
    Or is this just another of the paranoid, ignorant delusions that you have been infected by xtongue) from the crazy web sites that you get your information from?
    First asked 2 July 2013 - 7 days and counting.

 

[Clayton Moore]

so Mr Moore your evidence that MMR causes autism?

Parent after parent after parent after parent after parent of the victims.

 

[Reality Check]

Your essential premise on vaccines...which parallels your Zionist conspiracy position, apparently...is that denial of a conspiracy is proof a conspiracy exists.

Actually Clayton Moore's position is even stranger !
His OP is that the media is reporting that a conspiracy does not exist is proof that the conspiracy exists.
Of course he is ignorant about the fact that there are "media" reporting that these conspiracies exist, e.g. there are news articles that interview and report the views of the anti-vaxers.

So if the media reports that the fairies at the bottom of Clayton Moore's garden are not responsible for making people red-haired, is proof that there is a conspiracy of fairies to make everyone gingers !

 

[Dcdrac]

Parent after parent after parent after parent after parent of the victims.

No Clinton, none of that has been proved

Now provide some REAL evidence please

 

[Clayton Moore]

No Clinton, none of that has been proved

Now provide some REAL evidence please

Again, for the umpteenth time, when a baby's environment is from a to b as opposed to A to Z the WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE CAUSE OF AUTISM explanation is beyond mind numbingly stupid propaganda.

A parallel would be the loss of US manufacturing jobs overseas. The government simply let it happen.

 

[332nd]

Parent aft after parent, er parent after parent after parent after parent of the victims.

Yet you run from parent, after parent, after parent, after parent, after parent, after parent, of kids who have had all of their vacs & are fine.