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Alderbank agreed for Tuesday , Tracy was not on line to confirm this . Yes , Alderbank phonend Tracy unexpectedly at app 5.30pm and Tracy agreed with 90 mins notice .
Not so. If you followed the links I gathered you would see this.
 
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Alderbank agreed for Tuesday , Tracy was not on line to confirm this . Yes , Alderbank phonend Tracy unexpectedly at app 5.30pm and Tracy agreed with 90 mins notice .

Why do you refer to post numbers exactly the same way flaccon does? See the "quote" button at the bottom of the post you want to respond to? Try clicking it. She's had this explained to her several times.

Secondly, try reading this and responding to it, if you can.

I say you and f are wrong. f knew that Alderbank was willing to visit from the 5th of June. At every step there was communication between them. Here's evidence:
5th June, Alderbank makes an early offer to visit:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9273418&postcount=297

On the 6th June, flaccon said a visit was ok:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259768&page=9

On the 8th June (Saturday), flaccon reiterates that Sunday is fine:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9278822&postcount=616

More certainty from f:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9279070&postcount=646

Things start delaying. Stray Cat sounds a cry for clarity:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9279279&postcount=674

Saturday got old and Sunday came. Work on a protocol got under way.
Alderbank says he's still ok with later that same day, if a protocol can be finalized, else later in the week:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9280934&postcount=867

Alderbank shoots for Monday evening:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9282054&postcount=1008

Due to reluctant spirits, it looked like Monday would be a bust too:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9282798&postcount=1081

Still trying, Alderbank offers Monday night 7PM (he posted this at 3AM!):
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9283146&postcount=1126

flaccon agrees:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9283151&postcount=1128

A protocol scuppering problem arises late on Monday the 10th:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9284191&postcount=1233

Monday is off:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9284373&postcount=1253

f offers Tuesday:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9284690&postcount=1277

A says, Tues or Thurs:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9284772&postcount=1286

On Tues 1PM, A offers that night:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9286331&postcount=1375

At 6:20 PM on Tuesday 11th, A says he's called f and she invited him to visit at 7PM:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9286917&postcount=1414

Finally at 8PM, A posts to say he's there:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9287190&postcount=1425

This amounts to greater than 90 minutes notice.
Anything to say?
 
Alderbank, please refer to previous posts where it states that your nephew could not get a signal . Tracy remembers your nephew making several attemts to connect . Tracy is asking you why you continue to call her a liar, and she is still awaiting an explanation regarding your chewing gum story.
 
Scrappy, please address every single point and question you've ignored in this thread before demanding someone respond to your credulous drivel.
 
I have posted legible A4 documents on another thread as JPEGs within the file size limitations of the forum so it can be done. However all this talk of compression algorithms does assume a certain level of IT sophistication

There's a couple of people already willing to handle this process, so flaccon just needs to email the scan.
 
Alderbank, please refer to previous posts where it states that your nephew could not get a signal . Tracy remembers your nephew making several attemts to connect . Tracy is asking you why you continue to call her a liar, and she is still awaiting an explanation regarding your chewing gum story.

With all due respect scrappy your going off at a tangent isn't exactly helping. Tracey hasn't made any attempt at designing a protocol so we can distinguish her "voices" from paredolia or hallucinations. Until then you are wasting your time as there is nothing to discuss. She made a vague claim and refused to have it tested. Not your problem. Not my problem. The only person who's problem it is is flaccon.
 
JSfisher

flaccon or scrappy,

If you email the scanned letter to me, I will find an appropriate way to post it, here.

Tracy said thanks . what should take 5 mins mite take couple of hours, but will attempt it this evening .
 
Alderbank, please refer to previous posts where it states that your nephew could not get a signal . Tracy remembers your nephew making several attemts to connect . Tracy is asking you why you continue to call her a liar, and she is still awaiting an explanation regarding your chewing gum story.

You honestly believe you are communicating with dead people and instead of discussing this amazing world changing prospect you want to quibble about a meeting between 3 people that you were not even present for?

Do you want to help formulate a claim and a protocol or are you just here to bicker with people?
 
Alderbank, please refer to previous posts where it states that your nephew could not get a signal . Tracy remembers your nephew making several attemts to connect . Tracy is asking you why you continue to call her a liar, and she is still awaiting an explanation regarding your chewing gum story.

Tracey just asked me to ask you to try and respond to questions asked of you.
 
My, my, my.
If that's their response to such perfectly reasonable questions then give up, stop making recordings and get on with your life. They are not worth another second of your time.

At the end of the day, Pixel offers the most sensible answer.



Letter from GP .

This x year old lady played to me various recordings she had made which she thinks may have come from the spiritual world . I cannot claim to be any expert in such matters . Some of the noises are suggestive of words that Tracey identifies as her late father . She also showed me 2 pictures in blood stains which bore a resemblance to faces, good and bad . I cannot claim to be a particular expert in all things spiritual .

She has been subjected to various hauntings over the past 20 years . Recently good spirits seem to have overcome the more negative forces and this has lead to a massive improvement in her well being . I am no expert in paranormal activity .

Signed by the GP .

" Recently good spirits seem to have overcome the more negative forces and this has lead to a massive improvement in her well being . "

Right.



Maurice, Tracy replied to you and thanked you for your concern of her mental state . The post she wrote out would not post . She is on the phone to me now, dictating these words .. Maurice, my life has been very intresting but riddled with disability for 13 years . My parents passed over 8 years ago . I recovered my grief 4 years ago, and continued with my work . My disabilities where quite severe up until contact with my father, I now have my full health back and I have a fantastic out look on life .Had this been a usual negative haunting , my life would be over . This haunting has improved my life and keeps me protected . I can not give up on such positivity . My only frustration is not being able to place this experience into safe hands .

Robin is a real friend and has not been afraid to step forward and help me . This situation is very real , and without the few close friends ,a few family members and my GP I would have no one to compere notes with .

Robin?
 
Maurice, Tracy replied to you and thanked you for your concern of her mental state . The post she wrote out would not post . She is on the phone to me now, dictating these words .. Maurice, my life has been very intresting but riddled with disability for 13 years . My parents passed over 8 years ago . I recovered my grief 4 years ago, and continued with my work . My disabilities where quite severe up until contact with my father, I now have my full health back and I have a fantastic out look on life .Had this been a usual negative haunting , my life would be over . This haunting has improved my life and keeps me protected . I can not give up on such positivity . My only frustration is not being able to place this experience into safe hands .

Robin is a real friend and has not been afraid to step forward and help me . This situation is very real , and without the few close friends ,a few family members and my GP I would have no one to compere notes with .

Thanks scrappy. I will not converse with Tracey through you.

Can you not see that one is usually not in a position to assess their own emotional well being?

Tracey: The spirits are not protecting you. There are no demons. I would love to know what "comparing notes" means. You have stated that you compare notes with David Icke, of all people. Your outlook on life is not at all fantastic (well, not in the way you meant it here). You live in a world full of imagined entities, some evil and dangerous, some benevolent and protective. None of it is real.

Given the sheer number of beliefs you have in non-existent paranormal phenomena, and your relationship with folks like Icke, Roberts and Bulger, it is clear that you need to step back and have several chats with a qualified, competent counselor. This is no slight on you. It is just a fact.

You must give up your dream of introducing the spirits to the world. For one, they don't exist outside your mind, and for two, they are averse to proving their existence.

If you were to go for Randi's prize, you would need an actual letter from a an actual mental health professional.

You're rather bright, so I'm sure you'll understand that the skeptics' prizes are set up to demonstrate that all folks who have paranormal claims are mistaken or lying. The prizes are not there so we can humiliate ordinary people with emotional trouble, or those diagnosed with schizophrenia, for example.

This would only give ammunition to the likes of John Edward who could then say "anyone can prove that a schizophrenic's fantasies are not real. That proves nothing. I'm for real".

After all you've gone through, how much harm can it do to calmly walk to a mental health professional, clearly explain your history and see what they can do? Has it even occurred to you that this could actually fix your troubles with spirits, good and bad?



Bonus facts:

David Icke is a liar.
Mr. Roberts is making your situation worse.
The DaVinci code is a work of fiction (a lot of which is not even original).
The church won't help you because they can't.
Scrappy won't help you because he can't.
Bulger won't help you because he can't.

Modern healthcare professionals have a great deal of experience with the type of ordeal you're going through, and they can and will help.

Help is a good thing.

That is all.
 
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Late May 2013:
Guys check it out I have info that will change the world for the better and save us from blowing each other up, also curing cancer without killing any cats, and it's all accessible by sticking my fingers into a computer port and listening really hard, and it comes from spirits of living and also dead people who draw faces in blood and does anyone want to help me prove they exist and are talking to me about Jesus and the DaVinci Code?​

Early July 2013:
YOU FIBBER YOUR NEPHEW COULDN'T GET A SIGNAL AND CHEWING GUM AND PHONEY LETTERS FROM NON-EXISTENT MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS​

We've come so far. :slp:
 
Alderbank, please refer to previous posts where it states that your nephew could not get a signal . Tracy remembers your nephew making several attemts to connect . Tracy is asking you why you continue to call her a liar, and she is still awaiting an explanation regarding your chewing gum story.

I'm sure you she remembers that Craig was using his own phone. He uses a different network from me. My phone was OK but I chose not to use it.

Tracy as you call her told me how she made audio recordings. I did not post that to make her look ridiculous but because it is relevant to the thread. I and others think that she had found out that she only heard the spirit voices when she recorded using that video format. That is confirmed with today's correspondence with jsfisher. Also, other posters have confirmed that she has described the method herself in this thread.

scrappy, I suspect that no-one but you is interested in which network carrier I use but we are all certainly interested in whether you have any evidence and why you are here at all.

Have you got anything worth posting? Have you got the decency even to reply to questions about evidence of spirits?

Please don't post any more personal snipes at me. They do you no credit
 
flaccon said:
What does Jesus have to do with your supernatural claims?

I'm sure he has a lot to do with it. I'm looking for help more than anything, but til help arrives, I'm going to try for some prize money. The quote, was from the spirits themselves, who are fed up of listening to the Church hood who refuse to speak with them because it's considered an insult to God.. for real. If you had external quality speakers, I'd love to post you a demo of how the spirit world sounds.

Here is an update for those who have been away.

Flaccon was using the quote function in post #9. Then she forgot how to do it for awhile. Then she asked dblues54 to ask scrappy to tell her how to do it, and scrappy told dblues54 to ask the spirit of Thomas Edison to send a letter to flaccon's bishop, who asked her GP to put his fingers in a calibrated socket. Then they climbed a mountain because Tracy (no 'e') only had 2 weeks to get in shape and Tracey (with an 'e') invited Robin to meet her at the Pig and Whistle pub. Then scrappy discovered the quote button, but only after trying and failing to use Skype to meet with Alderbank's nephew.

Hope that clarifies any questions you may have. :bwall
 
Here is an update for those who have been away.

Flaccon was using the quote function in post #9. Then she forgot how to do it for awhile. Then she asked dblues54 to ask scrappy to tell her how to do it, and scrappy told dblues54 to ask the spirit of Thomas Edison to send a letter to flaccon's bishop, who asked her GP to put his fingers in a calibrated socket. Then they climbed a mountain because Tracy (no 'e') only had 2 weeks to get in shape and Tracey (with an 'e') invited Robin to meet her at the Pig and Whistle pub. Then scrappy discovered the quote button, but only after trying and failing to use Skype to meet with Alderbank's nephew.

Hope that clarifies any questions you may have. :bwall
So clear my sides hurt! :roll:
 
Here is an update for those who have been away.

Flaccon was using the quote function in post #9. Then she forgot how to do it for awhile. Then she asked dblues54 to ask scrappy to tell her how to do it, and scrappy told dblues54 to ask the spirit of Thomas Edison to send a letter to flaccon's bishop, who asked her GP to put his fingers in a calibrated socket. Then they climbed a mountain because Tracy (no 'e') only had 2 weeks to get in shape and Tracey (with an 'e') invited Robin to meet her at the Pig and Whistle pub. Then scrappy discovered the quote button, but only after trying and failing to use Skype to meet with Alderbank's nephew.

Hope that clarifies any questions you may have. :bwall

Psychic prediction: Robin signs up under "Robin2" and can't put a few words together to make sentences. We hire Pillory as the in-house translator.



Or perhaps the spirits are referring to a robin, the bird. Then we'll hire Asydhouse as the translator. He used to speak bird fluently. :dewink:
 
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