Merged ReThink911 - a Richard Gage ad campaign

ergo said:
Calling for someone's execution is not a laughing matter, Noah.

I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that people who support the plummeting highrises/al Qaeda conspiracy theory feel the need to bring their violence into other discussions, as well. But I think there are laws against such expressions.

At the very least, it warns us again of the need to monitor this increasingly volatile constituency. Especially for 9/11 researchers (the ones who do actual research and publish it) who, of necessity, must use their real names.
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Ergo.
Richard Gage openly lies andmakes money off of the deaths of thousands in the largest act of terror in American history.

That is what he does FOR A LIVING.

he is the reason the term 'scumbag' was coined. I don't give a rats ass what happens to that worm, or his followers.
 
ergo said:
Calling for someone's execution is not a laughing matter, Noah.

I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that people who support the plummeting highrises/al Qaeda conspiracy theory feel the need to bring their violence into other discussions, as well. But I think there are laws against such expressions.

At the very least, it warns us again of the need to monitor this increasingly volatile constituency. Especially for 9/11 researchers (the ones who do actual research and publish it) who, of necessity, must use their real names.
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No different than truthers coming out and naming and accusing members of the US government as being complicit in mass murder of 3000 of its own people with no evidence now is it?? Can't have it both ways. :D
 
Ed Asner is not well.

Hey, I think I saw some of one of our members' MS Paint fire analysis in that video!
 
They added another $1,185 and $4,890 to the donation counter, bringing the count to $136,984. $18,090 of this has been added in the last week, since the campaign has been reorganized. For comparison: Oystein counted around $3,500 donated in the four days after the fundraising campaign was announced the first time end of May, $2,800 of which were collected in the first two days alone before the daily numbers started dropping significantly until they reached a daily average of under $100 in late June, just before the miraculous revival that led to the latest numbers.

Meanwhile the Facebook page has gotten almost 300 new likes, most of which are probably in connection to a cyber-begging tweet they sent out to the ca. 2,200 followers of the AE911Truth Twitter acount in the weekend.
 
The implication here seems to be that AE9/11T has some way of making it look like they're receiving donations when they haven't. But I've always wondered about the wealthy prominent Hollywood Truthers, the morons who appear in these videos like Psychologists for 9/11 Truth, or the idiots who pledge themselves in Religious Leaders for 9/11 Truth. These are people with thousands to give to Gage. Luke Rudkowski stole something like 30 or 40 thousand from We Are Change and they're just a bunch of marginally employed 20-somethings.

The fund-raising ability of cult groups has always been legendary. I have no trouble that AE9/11T can still raise impressive amounts of money. I would like to know who these people are, though.
 
ergo said:
Ivan, to suggest someone should be executed is not a joke, not even a bad one. It is a very questionable choice of words on your part, and raises flags.

I think you would also agree that if a "twoofer" were ever found to be calling for a specific person's execution publicly, you folks would be all over it like slavering dogs. For days and days on end. Scott Sommers probably has some electronic notification system fine-tuned and waiting for just such an occurrence so he can start multiple threads about it.

Regarding the accusations you ascribe to Richard Gage: I've never heard him accuse anyone specifically about the murders of the 3,000 (and counting) WTC victims. Of course, understanding that buildings don't collapse into themselves from localized fires or damage does imply culpability on the part of those involved.

Finally, your opinion of Gage's evidence is merely your opinion. That you impose your opinion on others who you seek to mislead about these deaths, and the countless deaths arising from this event is what's offensive. So I have little tolerance for little 'tee hee' errors on your part. You could be putting your knowledge and expertise to so much better use.
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Those people know, that once the truth of 9/11 becomes irrefutable, there will be a need to punish the guilty. That's why violence to protect the lies is palatable to them.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Those people know, that once the truth of 9/11 becomes irrefutable, there will be a need to punish the guilty. That's why violence to protect the lies is palatable to them.
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The only punishing that will be done is by the rubes who contribute to Gage's vacation fund when they find out he has been playing them for years. :eek:
 
Clayton Moore, Ergo: Please, accept my apology for this my joke (really not a good one).

(Otherwise, I insist on everything I wrote in this short Facebook debate - which anyway basically disappeared (?) and I was banned.)
 
Animal said:
The only punishing that will be done is by the rubes who contribute to Gage's vacation fund when they find out he has been playing them for years. :eek:
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While Gage and Senator Gravel are sipping Mint Juleps and kicken' back at the con artist retirement home? The Truthers will just wander off to some other con who'll suck them in, maybe a SovCit or FMOTL like Menard.
 
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LSSBB said:
While Gage and Senator Gravel are sipping Mint Juleps and kicken' back at the con artist retirement home? The Truthers will just wander off to some other con who'll suck them in, maybe a SovCit or FMOTL like Menard.
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I'm curious as to the total amount of the Gage slippery windfall. Do tell?
 
Clayton Moore said:
I'm curious as to the total amount of the Gage slippery windfall. Do tell?
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He's making $85K a year from AE911, plus they pay his rent and expenses, plus he gets free travel to wherever the next scamalicious seminar is. I would conservatively say he's getting $150K per annum in salary and bennies. Nice work if you have no ethics can get it.
 
Scott Sommers said:
The implication here seems to be that AE9/11T has some way of making it look like they're receiving donations when they haven't.
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Well, if they are going to actually spend them, they obviously must have received them at one point. The question is if those that they are adding to the counter now have all been raised recently. It's highly impropable that they would have already booked $140,000 worth of advertising if they had actually raised only $118,000 at that point (as they claimed) and recent donation income (as of June 25) suggested less than $5,000 might be added to this during the remainder of the fundraising (if donations wouldn't increase significantly).

Scott Sommers said:
But I've always wondered about the wealthy prominent Hollywood Truthers ... The fund-raising ability of cult groups has always been legendary. I have no trouble that AE9/11T can still raise impressive amounts of money. I would like to know who these people are, though.
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As far as I understand it, substantial donors would have to turn up in the Form 990 eventually, don't they? Not that there aren't tricks to avoid that. There's the donations to AE911Truth by "Vanguard Charitable Endowment", for example, which is a large charity handling assets worth well over 2 billion dollars according to their latest Form 990. They list the following contributions to AE911Truth for "general operating expenses" between 2009 and 2011:

07/01/2009 - 06/30/2010: $10,000

07/01/2010 - 06/30/2011: $27,000 (a sum which doesn't appear to be reflected in its entirety in the AE911Truth forms, but I assume there is an explanation for that)

07/01/2011 - 06/30/2012: $7,500

The idea behind Vanguard seems to be to offer tax benefits to people who want to make donations to non-profits. It also offers the possibility to anonymously donate to a charity by giving the money to Vanguard, then "suggesting" a recipient for it. I assume the donations by Vanguard to AE911Truth are that kind of quasi-anonymous donations.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Thanks, Muc. I'm enjoying your contributions to this thread very much. :thumbsup:
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Thanks. I find it kind of fascinating to observe this very strange, yet not all too surprising example of Gage and the gang doing what they consider taking "action".
 
From the latest newsletter:

AE911Truth action alert said:
The ReThink911 campaign is pleased to announce that as of July 1 we have raised over *$135,000* of the*$225,000* needed to place ads in 11 major cities for the full month of September. Now we have 31 days to raise the next *$90,000* and make this September a breakthrough moment in our pursuit of an independent 9/11 investigation.

We are confident we'll reach our goal, but only with the support of everyone who wants to see this campaign happen. Donate what you can today and this September you will get to see the tremendous results of your generous support and commitment.

The ReThink911 campaign is planning to place ads in 11 major cities across the world for the entire month of September. To date, the campaign has finalized ad buys in six cities, while the remaining five ad buys will be finalized within the next two weeks.
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The sixth city is Vancouver (worth $25,000), which they just added to the cities that are "finalized", so they need $165,000 now, not just $140,000. They also moved the donation deadline to August 1.
 
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