• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Should Glenn Greenwald be charged with aiding and abetting Snowden?

applecorped

Banned
Joined
Mar 8, 2008
Messages
20,145
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-06-23-14-47-12

"NBC "Meet the Press" host David Gregory got a rise out of Glenn Greenwald on Sunday by asking the Guardian reporter why he shouldn't be charged with a crime for having "aided and abetted" former National Security Agency analyst Edward Snowden.
Greenwald replied on the show Sunday that it was "pretty extraordinary that anybody who would call themselves a journalist would publicly muse about whether or not other journalists should be charged with felonies."


Should he be charged? :confused:
 
I would say no, but that is just my personal feelings. By the letter of the law, a case might be made - and it may explain Greenwald's refusal to entertain Gregory's questions about Snowden's travel destination(s).

United States Code said:
Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal.


I think journalists should be given a wide latitude in their investigations, but certainly there are lines which can't be crossed. I'm really not sure if Greenwald has committed a crime by the letter of the law, but he certainly doesn't get a free pass on everything just because he is conducting investigative journalism.

Glenn Greenwald said:
If you want to embrace that theory, it means that every investigative journalist in the United States who works with their sources, who receives classified information is a criminal, and it's precisely those theories and precisely that climate that has become so menacing in the United States...


Greenwald is strawmanning a bit here IMO. From my perspective, Gregory wasn't suggesting that the crime was receiving and publishing classified info (although some feel that itself is criminal); he was implying that Greenwald had given advice and counsel to Snowden on where to travel in order to avoid extradition/prosecution and continue to put out the sensitive subjects. Those destinations, of course, happen to be adversaries of the U.S.

AP Article said:
Greenwald declined to discuss where Snowden was headed. That refusal seemed to prompt Gregory to ask: "To the extent that you have aided and abetted Snowden, even in his current movements, why shouldn't you, Mr. Greenwald, be charged with a crime?
 
Last edited:
If it turns out Snowden is hiding in Greenwald's basement then, yeah sure. Short of that it's a hard sell.
 
No, of course he shouldn't be charged.

Snowden shouldn't be charged either, as the public have a right to know what the spooks are doing.
Not really - or, more precisely on a very limited basis. Also why I do not support embedded reporters, reporters doing stories on feed that terrorists can access and use for info, etc., etc.
 
So in today's news, other than reporters playing "Where's Snowden"...

There appears to be evidence that Snowden planned this prior to getting the NSA gig and was in contact with Greenwald at that time.

If true, now what is Greenwald's culpability?
 
So in today's news, other than reporters playing "Where's Snowden"...

There appears to be evidence that Snowden planned this prior to getting the NSA gig and was in contact with Greenwald at that time.

If true, now what is Greenwald's culpability?

None? What would you think he could be charged with? What is the evidence?
 
Not really - or, more precisely on a very limited basis. Also why I do not support embedded reporters, reporters doing stories on feed that terrorists can access and use for info, etc., etc.

But the rest of the world has a right to know what your spooks are doing, don't they? If a non-US citizen were to discover that you're spying on all of us would it be wrong to publicise it?
 
Snowden shouldn't be charged either, as the public have a right to know what the spooks are doing.

So lets say I work for the CIA and I disclose the list of all US NOC agents working in foreign countries. In your mind there's no problem with that?
 
No, not charged. That will make it hard to drop him out of a transport plane in mid-Atlantic.


Transport plane? I'm relieved.

For a moment there I imagined you turning to Glenn Greenwald, seated next to you in the exit row of a commercial flight at its cruising altitude of 32,000 feet, and saying: "Don't worry. You're going to see your family again." before beginning to pull frantically at the seatbelt strap you've wrapped around the emergency escape door handle.
 
Obama saying Snowden was just a hacker not worth scrambling jets for suggests Obama's not interested in making an issue with China or Russia over it.
 
If it turns out Snowden is hiding in Greenwald's basement then, yeah sure.

Now that's a movie I pay to see in 3D! (Well only if it involved a kinky Snowden/Greenwald love affair with a sub-plot about gay marriage and international espionage). :)
 
No, not charged. That will make it hard to drop him out of a transport plane in mid-Atlantic.

I'd like to think you're joking about these kinds of things, but I am more and more persuaded by your own words that you really would like to kill people who question the authority of your guy.

Governments dream of citizens like you, because you fully vocalize that which is usually unthinkable.
 

Back
Top Bottom