What's your theory about 9/11?

Respect Sire, you found in seconds how my methodology works.
I need 17 years to find out.
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I noitice you don't address the issue about the flaw. That would be called "Confirmation Bias". All you are doing is watching a film, any film, and making a note of any image that you think confirms your theory, and ignoring every single image that does not confirm or contradicts the idea.

Imagine for a second you believed that there were secret prophecies hidden in the bible. You set a computer to rearrange the text into uniform grids and then to look for codes that make significant statements. It wouldn't care if the codes were found by reading down, reading every sixth lettery, every other word, reading the first letter of every line, as long at made a meaningful sentence.

By chance some of those "codes" would seem to make a lot of sense, to be hidden messages. You would look for complicated "rules" to explain how these are far more important than any of those that made no sense.

But here is the rub. If you look for codes you will find them in any text you put into your computer programme. This forum, Peter Rabbit, The Koran, my favourite cook book. All of them will hold equally random and equally meaningful coincidences.

They simply do not prove a thing.

I could look at any number of films and find images that are evocative of 9/11. Or of something equally spooky, which is utterly unintended, groundless and coincidental. You may as well be discussing the ghost in Three Men and a Baby, or the Munchkin Suicide.

Your "method" is nothing new. In terms of books or artistic imagry it is the reason that Lewis Carol, William Sickert and Oscar Wilde were each purported as (baseless) suspects to be Jack the Ripper. It is why people think the New World Order spends so much time detailing their plans in Olympic Ceremonies and airport artworks. People want there to be a message so they convince themselves something is a message and look for other images to confirm their idea, ignoring everything else.

Obviously you have nothing to predict to see if your theories have an objective base. You have not declared that a Kubric film will be more likely to feature paired oblongs than any other random film, nor have you offered any tangible connection to show these were intentional rather than coincidental.

I recognise your method. It is a shame that after so many years you do not recognise why it is nothing more than your own desire for there to be a message.
 
And there's orange juice nearby ... Agent Orange? .... Monsanto and the Illuminati???



eta: Do I spot a spear of broccoli on the plate? Broccoli for breakfast? Surely not. Perhaps we should examine the works of Cubby Broccoli for 9/11 clues?
 
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And there's orange juice nearby ... Agent Orange? .... Monsanto and the Illuminati???

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eta: Do I spot a spear of broccoli on the plate? Broccoli for breakfast? Surely not. Perhaps we should examine the works of Cubby Broccoli for 9/11 clues?


That's just the tip of the "Supertramp iceberg", bro! In Superman The Movie (1978), the song "Give a Little Bit" from Supertramp can be heard playing on a radio shortly before the climactic "earthquake" begins and a gas station collapses (in a suspicious manner) and then inexplicably...explodes in a ball of fire?? Um...hello, gasoline is inflammable! Look it up!

The earthquake was caused by avaricious super-capitalist Lex Luthor in a bid to destroy California, one of the centers of world trade. Luthor uses two military rockets, what you might call twin towers of mass destruction, which from a distance resemble twin skyscrapers (coincidence?:jaw-dropp). One of the conspiracy theories regarding 9/11 is that missiles were involved. Director Richard Donner is a little less oblique earlier in the movie when the twin towers are featured in several shots, but clearly Donner (and Supertramp) were trying to warn the world that 23 years later* the military would use rockets to destroy a "world trade center". I mean, it's obvious if you open your eyes and mind, bro.

Needless to say this is why Donner was fired from Superman II** and Supertramp's popularity went steadily downhill after "Breakfast In America" because they were unwilling to play ball with the powers that be, which seems really unfair when you consider the powers that be were nice enough to tell Donner and Supertramp about their plans for 9/11 in the first place. Talk about gratitude, bro!

I could go on for several more pages, but you get the idea.





* The title "Superman The Movie" has 16 letters in it, "R Donner" has 7 letters in it. 16 + 7 = 23 and 1978 + 23 = 2001

**Don't even get me started on the poster for Superman II which shows the WTC in flames.
 
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Well, you friendly guys :

The sniper who shot the cowboy(s) down is in the building "MY TOWN".

Who inside the building (WTC) or inside New York could be the "sniper" ?

In the meanwhile, I check "Eyes wide shut" I am afraid it is playing in New York ?

Regards Hans
 
Well, you friendly guys :

The sniper who shot the cowboy(s) down is in the building "MY TOWN".

Who inside the building (WTC) or inside New York could be the "sniper" ?

In the meanwhile, I check "Eyes wide shut" I am afraid it is playing in New York ?

Regards Hans

Euh... What?? :boggled:
 
Take as long as you want.

But a word of advise: You will dissapointed by the reception your claims will continue to earn when you return if they are not supported by an objective methodology and evidence of statistical significance.

Sir, yes Sir !
 
Okay in simple word for you Maurice :

Who in New York has destroyed the twin towers ?

Hans :D

Hijacked airplanes? I think I've mentioned this already...

I think you should answer some of the important questions put forth in this thread for you before you ask nonsense questions.
 
The sniper who shot the cowboy(s) down is in the building "MY TOWN".
And?

Who inside the building (WTC) or inside New York could be the "sniper" ?
Well, should you not be providing evidence there is somebody to identify before asking for their identity?

In the meanwhile, I check "Eyes wide shut" I am afraid it is playing in New York ?

Well, may I suggest for the benefit of your piece of mind you avoid Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters 2, King Kong, Annie, The Gangs of New York, Tarzan in New York, Manhattan Murder Mystery, Radio Days, Die Hard With a Vengeance, or South Pacific.
 
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Well, should you not be providing evidence there is somebody to identify before asking for their identity?



Well, may I suggest for the benefit of your piece of mind you avoid Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters 2, King Kong, Annie, The Gangs of New York, Tarzan in New York, Manhattan Murder Mystery, Radio Days, Die Hard With a Vengeance, or South Pacific.

Let's not forget Moonstruck....
 
And?


Well, should you not be providing evidence there is somebody to identify before asking for their identity?



Well, may I suggest for the benefit of your piece of mind you avoid Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters 2, King Kong, Annie, The Gangs of New York, Tarzan in New York, Manhattan Murder Mystery, Radio Days, Die Hard With a Vengeance, or South Pacific.

Don't forget that God (awful) zilla movie...
 
I've moved a series of posts to Abandon All Hope. Please, everyone, stick to the topic of the thread (which is not each other), be civil and polite, and address the argument rather than attacking the arguer. Hans Peper, I realize you are new here, but please note that calling other members names or likening them to dogs, is a breach of the Membership Agreement.
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Let's not forget about the most diabolic pre-boasting of all, Hush-a-bomb: Announced ~35 years before 9/11, on the Rocky and Bullwinkle children's TV show! Children's TV shows, Mandrake!
 

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Well pilgrim, it's time to say goodbye for a while.

So thank you for treating me well and friendly.
I've got lots of replys from you, but only one was friendly and he has good manners. It was Carlitos, I hope to see you again.

Yesterday I whatched the videos of 911 and I saw the faces of the people in the streets. It was a hit directly into their heart.

The man who wrote the screenplay was a specialist.

So do not waste your time attacking people who are coming with new theories, you need them ! What about the last 12 years, did you found something ?
I am afraid you didn't.

warm regards Hans Peper
 
Now it works again with attachments, thank you very much.

Regards

Perhaps you made a mistake and assumed somebody had prevented you from posting attachments?

If you look at the tea leaves or coffee grounds in the bottom of a cup you are likely to spot recognisable shapes. A cat, a car, a number .... This doesn't mean that the shape has any significance. But some people use this method to "tell the future".

If you look at enought images you might see something that appears significant to you, but that might be because you're searching for significance in the way, perhaps, that you experienced with the attachment thing.

A war film in a built-up area has two similar buildings close to each other, one of which is on fire (or whatever)? So what? That's only remarkable if it's something you're actively looking for.

You're cherry picking. You're guilty of confirmation bias. You're ignoring the countless images that don't support your preconceived notions.
 

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