How can Sweden fairly prosecute Assange when they don't prosecute GW Bush?

[The Don]

Because he's avoiding court. (Pretty sure an offence in itself)

UK bail law:

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/bail/

Prosecutors are responsible for determining the charge under the statutory charging arrangements, however the police may nevertheless determine the charge in certain cases, including an offence of absconding contrary to section 6(1) or 6(2) of the Bail Act (see DPP's Guidance on Charging 4th Edition 2011).

 

[Watanabe]

Yes absolutely and it's equally as unlikely but the chances of two people being invisibly "got at" by the US seems slightly less ridiculous than undermining the independence of one of the best justice systems in the world.

Evidence that it is unlikely that the that the women had been persuaded by the US to bring false allegations?

 

[Watanabe]

UK bail law:

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/bail/

Is this supposed to be evidence that the prosecution is not politically motivated?

 

[The Don]

Evidence that it is unlikely that the that the women had been persuaded by the US to bring false allegations?

The women, as is standard protocol in sexual assault cases in Sweden, are anonymous but both women are reported to have been supporters of wikileaks and its aims.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19426382

So at least at that superficial level it's unlikely.

 

[The Don]

Is this supposed to be evidence that the prosecution is not politically motivated?

No, it's in response to Klimax's suggestion that avoiding the court (or more specifically violating bail conditions) is in itself against the law. It is.


Edited to add ....

[snark]Which is why I included the quote from Klimax as a little hint[/snark]

 

[Watanabe]

The women, as is standard protocol in sexual assault cases in Sweden, are anonymous but both women are reported to have been supporters of wikileaks and its aims.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19426382

So at least at that superficial level it's unlikely.

Pretty weak

 

[Mojo]

Follow the conversation.

I do, but I don't find any evidence. What I find is stuff like this:

Assange said he is innocent, exactly like an innocent person would say

By definition, all kangaroo tribunals claim that they are fair.
Even those who are not.

While it suggests that someone isn't following the conversation, that someone isn't me.

 

[Mojo]

Pretty weak

But unneccessary; it is your claim that there is political motivation. You are the one who needs to provide evidence.

 

[The Don]

Pretty weak

Still a heck of a lot stronger than any evidence that you've presented - unless of course you can prove otherwise.

 

[TjW]

Evidence?



All other cases is irrelevant

Then why did you ask for them, if you were going to ignore them anyway?

 

[Watanabe]

But unneccessary; it is your claim that there is political motivation. You are the one who needs to provide evidence.

Read what I write

 

[Watanabe]

Still a heck of a lot stronger than any evidence that you've presented - unless of course you can prove otherwise.

This is your opinion. Stick with it

 

[Mojo]

Read what I write

I do. That's how I can tell that you're not providing any evidence, and that your responses tend to be irrelevant.

 

[Klimax]

Because he's avoiding court. (Pretty sure an offence in itself)

He is avoiding the court as he thinks that the prosecution may be politically motivated.
Evience that it is not?

Insufficient. It's your claim it is. Prove it.

 

[The Don]

This is your opinion. Stick with it

No, it's not a matter of opinion:

Some evidence no matter how weak >> no evidence whatsoever

 

[Dancing David]

So this is your whole point that since JA was involved in the leak, there is no need for evidence?

Pretty much

 

[Dancing David]

No
I have claimed that there is the legitimate suspect that it is politically motivated and I have provided evidence (i.e. he Swedish Government did not do much agaisnt Bush)

Who alleged GWB committed sexual assault in Sweden?

 

[icerat]

What evidence you can find that Assange raped?

Two women accused him of something considered rape under swedish law. As an Australian living in Sweden, I can easily imagine a red-blooded Aussie male doing what he did and not realising he could be in for a world of trouble.

Of course, skipping the country rather than be interviewed by police isn't particularly conducive to a presumption of innocence either ....

 

[Wudang]

Two women accused him of something considered rape under swedish law.

And under UK law as demonstrated at http://www.newstatesman.com/david-allen-green/2012/08/legal-myths-about-assange-extradition

 

[Watanabe]

Insufficient. It's your claim it is. Prove it.

No, it's not a matter of opinion:

Some evidence no matter how weak >> no evidence whatsoever

The evidence of the legitimate suspect is that the Government in which the Swedish Judiciary operates did not do much against GWB even if they accused him to start an illegal war which killed 200000+ people.
This Government could have done much more but did not.

Two women accused him of something considered rape under swedish law. As an Australian living in Sweden, I can easily imagine a red-blooded Aussie male doing what he did and not realising he could be in for a world of trouble.

Of course, skipping the country rather than be interviewed by police isn't particularly conducive to a presumption of innocence either ....

Assange looks everything except red-blooded..

And women can lie like everyone else

And under UK law as demonstrated at http://www.newstatesman.com/david-allen-green/2012/08/legal-myths-about-assange-extradition

Here there is a different one..

http://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/wig-chamber/news/‘does-anyone-seriously-think-this-is-about-a-broke

“I do not believe that all of this fuss and bother is about an arguably broken condom ... it is impossible to believe ... the point of the whole exercise is to get Assange to America,” he said.