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How can Sweden fairly prosecute Assange when they don't prosecute GW Bush?

Watanabe said:
There is no point to discuss with you as you do not consider immoral a war that caused the death of 200000+ people.
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Hmmm. Again you miss the point that it matters not how many people died that might make it immoral.
 
Watanabe said:
Klimax said:
You take your claim and make negative of it, hoping that it will fall into "cannot prove negative" category. That is wrong.

You have seen word "generally" in my post, haven't you? Your attempt at rewriting claim to suit your evasion was exact reason, why I included it.

You made inversion of both claims, failing to realize that categorization will get inverted too and thus your claim is once again in category "evidence for existence".

Just because you create "not independent", doesn't mean you are suddenly off hook for evidence.

Where is your evidence that courts are under control of politicians.
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You take your claim and make negative of it, hoping that it will fall into "cannot prove negative" category. That is wrong.

You have seen word "generally" in my post, haven't you? Your attempt at rewriting claim to suit your evasion was exact reason, why I included it.

You made inversion of both claims, failing to realize that categorization will get inverted too and thus your claim is once again in category "evidence for existence".

Just because you create "not dependent", doesn't mean you are suddenly off hook for evidence.

Where is your evidence that courts are independent politicians.
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You copied and paste my post slightly changing its content. That is not good idea.

Stop waffling and evading and answer. Where is your evidence for political control of Sweden's judicial system!
 
Klimax said:
Stop waffling and evading and answer. Where is your evidence for political control of Sweden's judicial system!
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Stop waffling and evading and answer. Where is your evidence for political independence of Sweden's judicial system!
 
Watanabe said:
Just provide examples where the Swedish criminal justice system has not yielded to political pressure. Ideally provide examples where the Swedish justice system has not yielded to political pressure from a foreign power.
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Sophistry at its least effective.

Given that you seem to be extracting the urine here is an example in Sweden of someone being convicted of providing urine. As you can clearly see, there is no evidence whatsoever of political pressure and absolutely no pressure from a foreign power.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...of-urine-assault-on-thief/UPI-28141357318223/


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But on a serious note, please provide evidence of political influence in the Swedish justice system. You know, your original claim, you need to provide the evidence.
 
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Klimax said:
Nope, it's yours to prove that there exists case which was influenced.

I will not allow you to shift the burden of proof.

So how is your evidence coming?
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Nope, it's yours to prove that there exists case which was guaranteed a no-influence.

I will not allow you to shift the burden of proof.

So how is your evidence coming?
 
The Don said:
Sophistry at its least effective.

Given that you seem to be extracting the urine here is an example in Sweden of someone being convicted of providing urine. As you can clearly see, there is no evidence whatsoever of political pressure and absolutely no pressure from a foreign power.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...of-urine-assault-on-thief/UPI-28141357318223/


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But on a serious note, please provide evidence of political influence in the Swedish justice system. You know, your original claim, you need to provide the evidence.
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Irrelevant as the suspect was not responsible of one of the biggest leaks..
 
Watanabe said:
Nope, it's yours to prove that there exists case which was guaranteed a no-influence.

I will not allow you to shift the burden of proof.

So how is your evidence coming?
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Any case? Take a pick of those reported out there, mine evidence is there.

And don't copy and paste posts, it could be a breach of rules...

And so far you showed nothing. Where is evidence. You know how one is labeled if he lies about something?
 
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Klimax said:
Any case? Take a pick of those reported out there, mine evidence is there.

And don't copy and paste posts, it could be a breach of rules...

And so far you showed nothing. Where is evidence. You know how one is labeled if he lies about something?
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Any of the one picked by you has the suspect involved in one of the biggest leaks in history?
 
Watanabe said:
Any of the one picked by you has the suspect involved in one of the biggest leaks in history?
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Well, almost.

There is one case that involves an Australian that was involved in publishing one of the biggest leaks in history There is an ongoing case about him in Sweden and so far there has not been anyone that has been able to show that there are political reasons behind the case.

What has been shown that even though foreign nations try to influence the case (most notably Ecuador), so far the judicial system has not been influenced by that pressure, since he has not been allowed to walk.

Of course if you have any evidence to the contrary, I'm sure there's quite a number of people that are interested in seeing that evidence.
 
Klimax said:
Still you haven't proven what does it have anything to do with anything.
You need to do that first, before you can continue.
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Same you have not proven that Assange did do anything wrong
You need to do that first, before you can continue.
 
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Watanabe said:
Same you have not proven that Assange did do anything wrong
You need to do that first, before you can continue.
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Err, it is not my claim he did anything. There is still in Sweden presumption of innocence so this reply is nonsense.

And another evasion noted.
 
Well watanabe, the fact that you have stuck to resorting to sophistry and all shows that you have an empty argument, the continued fact that this started as a false dichotomy and now you are resorting to sophistry shows the weakness of your argument.

You have an empty conspiracy theory.
 
Dancing David said:
Well watanabe, the fact that you have stuck to resorting to sophistry and all shows that you have an empty argument, the continued fact that this started as a false dichotomy and now you are resorting to sophistry shows the weakness of your argument.

You have an empty conspiracy theory.
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I don't think it even reaches CT. It's just empty nonsense...
 
Watanabe said:
SO if he did not do anything, why the UK police is after him?
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Standard when somebody is accused of a crime obviously. Until he is cleared or sentenced he is accused of crime and only trial can clear him of it.(Or general pardon or something like that, but those are specific actions rarely done) Since instead of standing trial he fled, he is fugitive and so police is after him. Nothing different...

He may or may not did anything, but that is up to court to clear him. Until then police is tasked with apprehending him and handing him to court.
 
Klimax said:
Standard when somebody is accused of a crime obviously. Until he is cleared or sentenced he is accused of crime and only trial can clear him of it.(Or general pardon or something like that, but those are specific actions rarely done) Since instead of standing trial he fled, he is fugitive and so police is after him. Nothing different...

He may or may not did anything, but that is up to court to clear him. Until then police is tasked with apprehending him and handing him to court.
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Do you have any evidence that this is the standard even when the accused is also the person behind one massive release of leaks?
 
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