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ETA: For the record, I did not contact, pm, email, or in anyway prompt desertgal that I made these posts or that I was discussing this issue. As expected, she read the thread, discovered an error, and admitted it.
 
JE has two techniques that I have picked up on, that I don't notice Browne use as much. Whereas when Browne throws something out there that isn't a hit, she'll often allow the person to say it's not a hit, and then try to morph her guess into being correct. She even did it on Coast to Coast and I believe George Noory called her out for it.

JE, on the other hand, is a little slicker. He either used that auctioneer style to completely drop it and throw out a different guess really fast to make you forget what he just guessed; or, as in the transcript above from Larry King, he'll stick to his guns no matter what the sitter/caller is saying. I believe he does this when on a talk show to appear "firm in his beliefs." I mean, there's no way he'd be sticking to that cow thing unless it was true, right?

And lets say the caller finally makes some mundane connection to cows. How is that relevent when what the caller wanted to know was about her husband? JE is smart enough to not take a guess as to the whereabouts of the husband because he knows he could end up with egg on his face the way Sylvia has.

For these reasons, I believe he's much better at this than Sylvia. He's still very transparent if you look at him from a neutral position, but more skilled than Sylvia, no doubt.
 
I tend to agree with you, DuvalHMFIC. I've said before (possibly in this thread, but I can't recall) that I am not one of those who thinks JE is a bad cold reader. He is only bad if you judge him by a mentalist's standards. As a person claiming to be a legitimate medium, he is excellent as his success indicates. He is, I think, the one to pioneer this method of sticking to your guns. He didn't invent the concept; mentalists have used it in soft fashion before, but he has refined the art of telling the subject that he or she is incorrect and the connection will come later.

It's a slick move. The responses of people like Robin to the tactic demonstrate how well it works in selling everything else.
 
Slowvehicle said:
Not according to the way you originally related some of the anecdotes ("I'm getting an 'ST' sound in the name" is NOT a "STARTLINGLY SPECIFIC, UNIQUE, PERSONAL, UNKNOWABLE hits directed at a SPECIFIC person...NOT and let me emphasize NOT thrown out to the entire room", especially when "Salvatore" is offered as the name with an "ST" sound in it).

Not according to videotapes of JE at "work", shotgunning audiences.
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And so I will say it again...this time in a different way for those who were unable to comprehend my earlier attempts or who haven't read the entire thread:

IF ALL JE HAD TO SAY WAS AN ST SOUND, I WOULD NEVER HAVE WRITTEN A BLOG ABOUT HIM OR STARTED THIS THREAD OR BE CLAIMING THAT HE IS REAL.

And also, some people on here are asking questions that have already been answered...and bringing up issues that have already been addressed...and misrepresenting what I actually did say.

Read the thread.
 
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Robin1 said:
And so I will say it again...this time in a different way for those who were unable to comprehend my other attempts:

IF ALL JE HAD TO SAY WAS AN ST SOUND, I WOULD NEVER HAVE WRITTEN A BLOG ABOUT HIM OR STARTED THIS THREAD OR BE CLAIMING THAT HE IS REAL.

And also, some people on here are asking questions that have already been answered...and bringing up issues that have already been addressed...and misrepresenting what I actually did say.

Read the thread.
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The questions have not been addressed, Robin, and simply telling people to read the thread when we have does nothing for your argument.

Let's keep it simple right now: Tell me where I am wrong in my deconstruction of Prescott's article? Be specific, since we have been specific in our comments (mostly).
 
Robin1 said:
IF ALL JE HAD TO SAY WAS AN ST SOUND, I WOULD NEVER HAVE WRITTEN A BLOG ABOUT HIM OR STARTED THIS THREAD OR BE CLAIMING THAT HE IS REAL.
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None of your "hits" are any more impressive than the ST one. I know you think they are, but you're wrong.
 
Robin1 said:
Here's the unusual part of it....JE says the right ("STARTLINGLY SPECIFIC") thing DIRECTLY to the right people.

Drinking milk straight from a cow...no meaning to me, having a dog named after an alcoholic beverage...no meaning to me, was someone in the family a shepherd...no meaning to me, air traffic controller of passing...no meaning to me, an IV mark being the closest thing to a tattoo...no meaning to me, a picture of a tree shrunken down...no meaning to me, someone in family reading coffee grinds...no meaning to me, me abusing a dog...no meaning to me, etc. etc...

Did I just buy a new refrigerator... Yes!

How does he know what to say to who?
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Why would dead people be interested in appliances?
 
Robin1 said:
Read the thread. Read the thread. Read the thread. Read the thread...
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You first.

Yeah, read the thread again, tsig. You'll see that appliances are an even surer gamble for JE than cows.

And there are no iceboxes in hell? :D
 
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Robin1 said:
Read the thread. Read the thread. Read the thread. Read the thread...
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We did. It's not convincing. Please be specific about what we are apparently not understanding.

In the meantime:

Read my comments on Prescott's article. Read my comments on Prescott's article. Read my comments on Prescott's article. Read my comments on Prescott's article...

It is simply another strike against your case, Robin, when you repeatedly refuse to do what you demand of others, even when the others have done what you demanded.
 
Here's the thing Robin. You may be right. But look at things from our perspective. If you were in a neutral corner, and there were unedited video clips, and transcripts from his readings where he isn't getting much right...and then there is a person, we'll call her "Robin", claiming that he gets UUU hits, even though she has no unedited video or transcripts of these hits...whom would you believe?

I'd like you to at least take a stab at debunking, for instance, that last Youtube clip that was posted. He throws out a million things at 4 different people, and even seems to confuse himself. He says something about cancer and bones, no one picks up on it, so he switches to a different topic with lightning quick precision. He mentions an American Flag and the fourth of July, and relies on the sitter to tell him it's Sept. 11. Who in America doesn't have SOME connection with the flag?
 
Garrette said:
Oops. Don't know how I missed you, pakeha, but thanks for straightening me out.

So, jiggeryqua, adding pakeha to the mix and still counting me, there are definitely four people and probably five on this thread who have drunk milk directly from the udder. All of whom posted before my "egregious error."
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Add one more, I grew up on a farm and watched my mother milk the cows many times and usually had her squirt some milk my way.
 
tsig said:
Add one more, I grew up on a farm and watched my mother milk the cows many times and usually had her squirt some milk my way.
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Thanks, but five demerits for Gryffindor for not posting before I made my egregious error.
 
Robin1 said:
Read the thread. Read the thread. Read the thread. Read the thread...
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I've read every post, none of them answered my question. Why would dead people be interested in appliances?

Why would the dead need JE to communicate, why couldn't your dad talk to you directly? Why do the dead need to ask so many leading questions, was your dad always such a shy man that he never made a declarative statement?
 
tsig said:
Add one more, I grew up on a farm and watched my mother milk the cows many times and usually had her squirt some milk my way.
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Sounds like this is one of those things that is far more common than most people realise, so it's a good guess for JE to throw out there occasionally. If he gets a hit it seems much more impressive than it actually is, and if not he can quickly throw out a lot more stuff and bury it.
 
tsig said:
I've read every post, none of them answered my question. Why would dead people be interested in appliances?

Why would the dead need JE to communicate, why couldn't your dad talk to you directly? Why do the dead need to ask so many leading questions, was your dad always such a shy man that he never made a declarative statement?
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Read it again.

This time more carefully.
 
tsig said:
I've read every post, none of them answered my question. Why would dead people be interested in appliances?

Why would the dead need JE to communicate, why couldn't your dad talk to you directly? Why do the dead need to ask so many leading questions, was your dad always such a shy man that he never made a declarative statement?
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Yes, and why the refrigerator? Her father was supposedly observing her everyday life...and that was what he picked to comment on? Why not the grandkids? Or a pointed "That's my daughter, Robin, right there. The blonde. I want to tell her she looks good." How is it that Pops can mention the refrigerator, but he can't mention his daughter's name or just simply identify her to JE and go from there?

(Yeah, rhetorical questions, I know. I don't expect Robin to answer. For one, she can't, because none of it is real, and for another, logic defeats her.)
 
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