Merged ReThink911 - a Richard Gage ad campaign

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AE911Truth has renamed its "Operation Tip the Planet" campaign into "ReThink911". The goal is to raise money and run ads (billboards, I think) in September with that money.

To that end:


Parallel to the fundraising, they have raised matching funds - those were above $100,000 in March, and at $300,000 now.

The fundraising page has so far raised $300,796 - $286,000 of those (95%) from three moire or less anonymous sources, $14,796 from about 140 individual donors. The three big donations were:
  • $176,000 from "ReThink911 Supporters"
  • $60,000 from "AE Supporters" - perhaps this is what Gage's own AE911Truth budget throws in, from general income
  • $50,000 from "Remember Building 7 Campaign" - this is most likely from the money that AE911Truth has held for "Building What", as a liability in their IRS Form 990s since 2010.
I have no idea who pledged the 300K in matching funds, who is behind the 176K, and whether those 176K will be matched, or are part of the matching.


Here is what they'r gonna do (from the March 15 announcement):
AE911Truth said:
...our billboard, subway, and grassroots-to-global multi-city campaign!
...
This “pull out all the stops” viral, trans-media campaign is supported by a coalition of like-minded 9/11 Truth organizations, including:
  • AE911Truth
  • NYC CAN
  • 9/11 Truth and Justice in Canada
  • The 9/11 Consensus Panel
  • We Are Change groups
  • Citizens Aware and Asking
We anticipate support from many celebrity sponsors, including famed actor Ed Asner.

Our month-long global advertising and grassroots action campaign beginning on September 1, 2013, will coincide & synergize with:
  • AE911Truth reaching 2,000+ architect and engineer petition signers
  • “9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out” airing all across the world
  • AE911Truth petition & DVD copy of ESO delivery to Congress members
  • 2013 Washington DC 9/11 Truth conference
We are counting on these simultaneous actions to have a multiplier effect that captures the attention of the public, and the media, and finally tips the entire planet toward 9/11 awareness.
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They pretend to be focussing on selected cities, have set up almost 68 city teams, and hope to raise between $1,000 and 10,000 per city. But in reality, only 9 of these city teams have reached any donations at all, most only 1 donation, for a total of $1,711.

Looking at the proposed ad, they are convinced that they'll reach 2,000 A&E signatures by September. They are at 1,928 right now, and have in recent months received 20 or less new actual A&E signatures. With three full months to go before September, that might be a close call, considering that the summer months June, July and August have been the slowest in many years, and on average.
 
They claim that they are trying to raise $300,000 which will be matched with another $300,000. The goal they set at fundly is $600,000, which suggests that the money donated so far - which was mostly AE911Truth and sub-organisations spicing up the numbers by donating their own money to themselves - could be almost entirely those "matching funds". On the other hand, this does not really make sense.

If I understood this correctly, the payment of the "matching funds" would only apply to the donations raised by the various city teams, each of which has to reach a certain limit to trigger those payments. All those city teams together have raised less than two thousand Dollars so far (brace yourself for the $25 AE911Truth campaign that will be rolling over you in September, London). Almost none of them is anywhere near the amount that would trigger this "matching". Almost all of them are at $0.

However, it appears - at least to me - that by already chipping in almost $300,000 over the donation site, the campaign has already committed itself to paying out this amount, no matter if anything needs to be "matched" or not. What adds to the confusion is that, given the very few donations that trickle in, this AE911Truth money might have to be distributed to those city teams anyway if there is to be a campaign at all, even if none of them reaches their goals. However, if this will actually be necessary, will another $300,000 in "matching funds" be payed if this re-distribution of money brings the city teams to their donation target? If it will not be necessary, what will happen to the $300,000 that were donated to the general pool but not the city teams?

This is a very strange and intransparent construct and, given the large amounts of money that have supposedly been donated in one way or another, they should give a bit more details.
 
Speaking of transparency... what are the actual expenses/costs of this new campaign? Are the staff paid? Or is it pro bono? Will they publish any sort of accounting?
 
JSanderO said:
Speaking of transparency... what are the actual expenses/costs of this new campaign? Are the staff paid? Or is it pro bono? Will they publish any sort of accounting?
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To keep donations tax-free, and since the names "Gage" and "AE" already appear prominently in several places (not least of which is the domain registration of www.rethink911.org, which currently redirects to the fundly page) they have to do it under the umbrella of AE911Truth, and thus of course there will be book-keeping, and there will be the summary Form 990 - late in 2014. This form will, and must, show big donors, and will also document when the "Building What" liability has been payed out.
 
Wow, 386 supporters on Fundy! Way to get the message out! All this time I thought the lottery was the tax on stupidity. Rethink indeed.
 
Great! Now they may have the means to actually do some FEAs of their own and finally prove or refute NISTs structural response and fire research.

My bet though is that this money will instead go towards more hot air, Gage gets another world tour all expenses paid. Yes, some capital costs might be covered. Perhaps he needs a few new pizza boxes.
 
911 Tea Party Mix with A&E Nuts - they could move money all over, and keep the evil IRS away.
 
jaydeehess said:
Great! Now they may have the means to actually do some FEAs of their own and finally prove or refute NISTs structural response and fire research.
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How do you figure this? :confused:

This money has to go to get more people to support the "truth".

There's no room to pay these 1900+ engineers to actually do some work. Maybe next year. :rolleyes:
 
MileHighMadness said:
Wow...there is a sucker born every minute.

What are they going to do with this money...beside pay Gage, and run ad campaigns asking for more money.
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Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner meetings; travel at nice hotels, airfare to London, Madrid, Milan, Osaka, Hong Kong, Hawaii...
 
jaydeehess said:
Great! Now they may have the means to actually do some FEAs of their own and finally prove or refute NISTs structural response and fire research.

My bet though is that this money will instead go towards more hot air, Gage gets another world tour all expenses paid. Yes, some capital costs might be covered. Perhaps he needs a few new pizza boxes.
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beachnut said:
911 Tea Party Mix with A&E Nuts - they could move money all over, and keep the evil IRS away.
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:D

DGM said:
How do you figure this? :confused:

This money has to go to get more people to support the "truth".

There's no room to pay these 1900+ engineers to actually do some work. Maybe next year. :rolleyes:
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I remember about 3-4 years ago A&E hustled a few $K to buy software and apply it to the Towers. Whatever happened to that.

Basile is an AE911T member.
You'd think they could afford to pay for Basile's struggling independent lab T*e test without breaking a sweat, instead of squandering $600K on posters and bumper stickers.
Isn't Gage interested in finding out if primer paint is thermite?

http://www.markbasile.org/

"Personal 9/11 Statement - Get some dust and look for the metallic microspheres and red/gray chips. The spheres are evidence of temperatures beyond the capability of jet fuel, and the chips produce molten iron droplets when ignited!"

5 microns iron dust particles ignite at 430C !
 
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Originally Posted by jaydeehess
Great! Now they may have the means to actually do some FEAs of their own and finally prove or refute NISTs structural response and fire research.
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DGM said:
How do you figure this? :confused:

This money has to go to get more people to support the "truth".

There's no room to pay these 1900+ engineers to actually do some work. Maybe next year. :rolleyes:
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Even in legitimate organizations, there's a tendency for fundraising to become an end in itself, where a major purpose of fundraising is to do more fundraising.

OTOH, for organizations like Gage's, fundraising is the only purpose. No studies will ever be done, since any legitimate studies will make Truthers look bad.
 
BasqueArch said:
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Basile is an AE911T member.
You'd think they could afford to pay for Basile's struggling independent lab T*e test without breaking a sweat, instead of squandering $600K on posters and bumper stickers.
Isn't Gage interested in finding out if primer paint is thermite?

http://www.markbasile.org/
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Well, no. He is a signatory.
 
I see they are using the "not hit by a plane" meme again, even though the truthers believe plane crashes and the fires could not have brought down the WTC. Even if WTC7 *was* hit by a plane, it would still be a controlled demolition in their eyes :rolleyes:
 
Basile -


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Redwood said:
Even in legitimate organizations, there's a tendency for fundraising to become an end in itself, where a major purpose of fundraising is to do more fundraising.

OTOH, for organizations like Gage's, fundraising is the only purpose. No studies will ever be done, since any legitimate studies will make Truthers look bad.
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Self-Licking Ice Cream Cone
 
From AE911T
1. Another Expert “Speaks Out”: Jeff Farrer, PhD
(News/News Releases By AE911Truth - Deutsch)
... McCoy and chemical engineer Mark Basile. Dr. Jeff Farrer provides an incisive analysis of the melted steel at the WTC Since December, we received a number of responses from readers and ...
2. 9/11: Explosive Testimony Exclusives
(News/News Releases By AE911Truth - Deutsch)
... Mark Basile. The first scientist who ignited a red/gray chip from the World Trade Center dust and found an iron-rich microsphere in the residue discusses his process of discovery using the scientific method. ...
3. Expert's Statements
(Public Television/PTV - Experts' Statements)
... the surface. Kathy McGrade B.S., Materials Engineering In an office fire, you cannot generate enough heat to melt steel. Mark Basile B.S.Ch.E., 25 Years in Materials Analysis I've independently ...
4. Information for Law Enforcement
(Evidence & Resources/Key Facts)
... Mark Basile is another scientist who found thermite in the World Trade Center dust. Total Time: Approx. 14 min. These and other experts are featured in our latest documentary ...
5. 9/11 and Skeptic Magazine’s ‘Science’ of Controlled Demolitions
(News/Press Coverage)
... that are part of the “signature” of the WTC dust. Mohr suggests that attempts to replicate the findings of Harrit, et al, have been “dismal.” He says Mark Basile made the same “error” of not performing ...
6. Finally... The Trailer is Here! Preview the New AE911Truth Documentary: 9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out
(News/News Releases By AE911Truth)
... strike twice.” Chemical Engineer Mark Basile. The first scientist who ignited a red/gray chip from the World Trade Center dust and found iron-rich microspheres in the residue discusses his process ...
7. Another Expert “Speaks Out”: Jeff Farrer, PhD
(News/News Releases By AE911Truth)
... McCoy and chemical engineer Mark Basile. Dr. Jeff Farrer provides an incisive analysis of the melted steel at the WTC Since December, we received a number of responses from readers and ...
8. 45 Experts from AE911Truth - Powerful New DVD in the Works
(News/News Releases By AE911Truth)
... the petition for AE911Truth because I felt it was an organization trying to get at the truth of what actually brought those buildings down.” Chemical Engineer Mark Basile Mark Basile Additional ...
9. Evidence page
(Evidence & Resources/Recent Events and Presentations)
... Chemical Engineer Mark Basile is another scientist who found thermite in the World Trade Center dust. He discusses in-depth his process of discovery using the scientific method. ...
10. 9/11: Explosive Testimony Exclusives
(News/News Releases By AE911Truth)
... Mark Basile. The first scientist who ignited a red/gray chip from the World Trade Center dust and found an iron-rich microsphere in the residue discusses his process of discovery using the scientific method. ...





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BasqueArch said:
"Credentials Verified by AE911Truth Verification Team"
umm ...not a member of AE911T but he is a signatory of it?"

Ok...
No money for signatories like Basile!
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Let's not quibble over words. I think this is off-topic here anyway. This thread is about an ad campaign and fundraising for it, not about red-gray chips. We have a thread on Basile, we have a thread on Jones and Harrit, we have a thread for general comment on AE911Truth.

I opened this thread to monitor and analyse a certain campaign: Rethink911.
 
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