Who is Behind 9/11 and Why? (Chomsky)

[swright777]

Never mind. Others have taken yankee to task over his non existent math skills.

I had originally posted almost exactly what Sceptic-PK posted down there vv

 

[Sceptic-PK]

Here maybe this close up will help.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/other.jpg[/qimg]

So we have "Other" being the military's biggest expenditure, right behind construction, unclear weapons, research and development and WAR. Notice how the expenditures for personnel and their weapons and ammo are pretty much constant, but boy have we been spending some serious bank on unclear weapons, research, war and "other", none of which can be verified thanks to national security; no room for fraud here!

Hahahahahaaha. You DO realise the "other", ie the dark green colour is actually the very smallest component of that graph right? Why can't you read the graph properly? Were you home schooled? Or is the US school system really as bad as they tell us? Or is it the obvious, that you're just not very smart?

The biggest component of that graph is “operations” ie the wars. Cretin.

 

[JohnG]

Guys, he admitted his mistake hours ago. Fair's fair.

 

[Sceptic-PK]

Guys, he admitted his mistake hours ago. Fair's fair.

Ahhh sorry, I only read as far as his reply to me. Good on him for admitting his mistake, but serious LOL at making it in the first place.

 

[swright777]

Guys, he admitted his mistake hours ago. Fair's fair.

Yep, that's why I deleted mine when I saw that he did.

Ahhh sorry, I only read as far as his reply to me. Good on him for admitting his mistake, but serious LOL at making it in the first place.

My LOL is because he is so consistently and arrogantly wrong about everything but tries to post as an authority.

 

[BasqueArch]

Let me put this another way -

If Colonel Mustard published his intent to kill Miss Scarlett with a candlestick in the Drawing Room, and a few weeks later Miss Scarlett's bludgeoned body was found in the Drawing Room next to a bloody candlestick, would you accuse Mrs. Peacock of murder?

It's like this -

Colonel Mustard announced numerous times his intent to kill Miss Scarlett in the Drawing Room.
Colonel Mustard had attacked Miss Scarlett previously.
TV Millions saw Colonel Mustard strike Miss Scarlett with a candlestick.
Live thousands saw and heard Colonel Mustard as he was striking Miss Scarlett.
50 videotaped Colonel Mustard striking Miss Scarlett with the candlestick.
The candlestick receipt was found in Colonel Mustard's pocket.
Colonel Mustard's fingerprints were on the candlestick.
The candlestick had Miss Scarlett's bloody DNA on it.
Miss Scarlett's relatives mourned her loss.
Colonel Mustard confessed to killing Miss Scarlett and threatened to kill Miss Scarlett's relatives where he could find them.

11 years later one guy shows up and claims Miss Scarlett is still alive and that Mrs. Peacock framed Colonel Mustard.

 

[swright777]

It's like this -

Colonel Mustard announced numerous times his intent to kill Miss Scarlett in the Drawing Room.
Colonel Mustard had attacked Miss Scarlett previously.
TV Millions saw Colonel Mustard strike Miss Scarlett with a candlestick.
Live thousands saw and heard Colonel Mustard as he was striking Miss Scarlett.
50 videotaped Colonel Mustard striking Miss Scarlett with the candlestick.
The candlestick receipt was found in Colonel Mustard's pocket.
Colonel Mustard's fingerprints were on the candlestick.
The candlestick had Miss Scarlett's bloody DNA on it.
Miss Scarlett's relatives mourned her loss.
Colonel Mustard confessed to killing Miss Scarlett and threatened to kill Miss Scarlett's relatives where he could find them.

11 years later one guy shows up and claims Miss Scarlett is still alive and that Mrs. Peacock framed Colonel Mustard.

... and the 11-years-late guy also claims that a candlestick couldn't possibly have killed Miss Scarlett, so it had to be a weapon that wasn't even in the game at the time.

 

[Clayton Moore]

We maintain our moral superiority by careful use of labels.

When we kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people we refer to them as terrorist sympathizers or "collateral damage". We use "smart bombs", whereas they use "suicide bombers". We are "educated" to defend peace and freedom, whereas they are indoctrinated to be Islamist extremists.

Even if everything we were told about 9/11 is true, to murder hundreds of thousands of innocent people as retribution for the actions of 19 people who were already dead is barbaric, but thanks to the power of propaganda we are shielded from that reality.

The neocons did 9/11 and followed up with the wars that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people as retribution against fake terrorists. Chomsky knows that and has preached that 9/11 is over and that it is of no use and counterproductive to look back.

 

[Dcdrac]

mr Moore the evidence the US government planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks is vapour it does not exist because the US government did not plan nor carry out an attack on NYC on 9/11.

The invasion of Iraq would have happened without it.

 

[Kid Eager]

0riginally Posted by yankee451
We maintain our moral superiority by careful use of labels.

<snip the rest>

The neocons did 9/11 and followed up with the wars that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people as retribution against fake terrorists. Chomsky knows that and has preached that 9/11 is over and that it is of no use and counterproductive to look back.

The irony is delicious...

 

[Mikeys]

mr Moore the evidence the US government planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks is vapour it does not exist because the US government did not plan nor carry out an attack on NYC on 9/11.

The invasion of Iraq would have happened without it.

They were accusing Sadam of tinkering with nuclear weapons, a bogus joke.Then, they were accusing him of hiding chemical weapons. No finds. What was the actual reason if not 911?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

They were accusing Sadam of tinkering with nuclear weapons, a bogus joke.Then, they were accusing him of hiding chemical weapons. No finds. What was the actual reason if not 911?

They believed Saddam had WMDs. Plus Bush believed Saddam tried to assassinate his dad.

Saddam went to a lot of trouble to try to convince everyone he had a viable WMD program so his neighbours wouldn't dare attack him. The plan backfired.

Iraq had no involvement in 9/11 and as far as I'm aware neither Bush nor Blair ever said they did.

 

[LSSBB]

They were accusing Sadam of tinkering with nuclear weapons, a bogus joke.Then, they were accusing him of hiding chemical weapons. No finds. What was the actual reason if not 911?

They evidently aimed to take advantage of 9/11 despite it not being related to Saddam, therefore they in all likely hood did not plan 9/11 in order to go after Saddam.

On the morning of the 12th DOD's focus was already beginning to shift from al Qaeda. CIA was explicit now that al Qaeda was guilty of the attacks, but Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were not persuaded. It was too sophisticated and complicated an operation, they said, for a terrorist group to have pulled off by itself, without a state sponsor-Iraq must have been helping them.
Source: Against All Enemies, by Richard Clarke, chapter 1

 

[Mikeys]

So what made them make a move back then after 911, Saddam or Osama, or both?

 

[LSSBB]

So what made them make a move back then after 911, Saddam or Osama, or both?

They were after Saddam from the git go, before 9/11. 9/11 got in their way. For a long time after they kept trying to tie Iraq to 9/11. They ended up having to hit Afghanistan first, and put Iraq off until later. Bush never did get Bin Laden, did he? If Al Qaeda was a ruse they could have just claimed to have gotten him in Iraq at some point.

 

[Mikeys]

They evidently aimed to take advantage of 9/11 despite it not being related to Saddam, therefore they in all likely hood did not plan 9/11 in order to go after Saddam.

In all likely hood they failed to convince Saddam to do something stupid to have a reason for invasion. They had to do it themselves. Plan B. Saddam was the main dish. Geopolitics in the gulf was the game. Osama a fairy tale. Afghanistan, Media Fakery?

 

[twinstead]

In all likely hood they failed to convince Saddam to do something stupid to have a reason for invasion. They had to do it themselves. Plan B. Saddam was the main dish. Geopolitics in the gulf was the game. Osama a fairy tale. Afghanistan, Media Fakery?

Then why not just plant some WMDs in Iraq and "tie Saddam to Al Queda" and be done with it?

 

[Mikeys]

They were after Saddam from the git go, before 9/11. 9/11 got in their way. For a long time after they kept trying to tie Iraq to 9/11. They ended up having to hit Afghanistan first, and put Iraq off until later. Bush never did get Bin Laden, did he? If Al Qaeda was a ruse they could have just claimed to have gotten him in Iraq at some point.

Of course he should have stayed alive as long necessary. Dead Bin Laden would have been no good, until at least Saddam was taken care of. That's what puzzles me. The ongoing bombing of caves in Afghanistan to chase him down. Dangerous. He could have been killed.

 

[Mikeys]

Then why not just plant some WMDs in Iraq and "tie Saddam to Al Queda" and be done with it?

The trick was to look for WMDs, just like to look for Osama rather that to find both and call it a day. They were not in a hurry.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Of course he should have stayed alive as long necessary. Dead Bin Laden would have been no good, until at least Saddam was taken care of. That's what puzzles me. The ongoing bombing of caves in Afghanistan to chase him down. Dangerous. He could have been killed.

Not really. He'd bin dead for about a decaden that's all folks.