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TAM XI Roll Call

I very much regret to say that TAM XI will be the missing link of my TAM chain. The semester at the Univ has extended till the end of July, exceptionally this year, which makes it impossible for me to leave for one week (normally I'm out from Wed to Wed), at the time the final exams take place.

So, cheers in advance to my friends I usually hang out with at the Del Mar. Scrut, MarkB, Zooterkin, Paul C., Winslow, AdMan ... and others. I'll be there "in spirit" with all of you, especially on every round of beers :).

See you all next year, for sure.
 
Patricio Elicer said:
I very much regret to say that TAM XI will be the missing link of my TAM chain. The semester at the Univ has extended till the end of July, exceptionally this year, which makes it impossible for me to leave for one week (normally I'm out from Wed to Wed), at the time the final exams take place.

So, cheers in advance to my friends I usually hang out with at the Del Mar. Scrut, MarkB, Zooterkin, Paul C., Winslow, AdMan ... and others. I'll be there "in spirit" with all of you, especially on every round of beers :).

See you all next year, for sure.
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It's really too bad you won't be there, Patricio! You'll be missed.
 
As of May 1, 2012, we had 41 people on the roll call for TAM X. Now we have 26. What do people make of this?

(There are a bunch of TAM forum grant recipients who are not on the list.)

~~ Paul
 
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Are you people still pretending to like TAM? Everyone knows TAM sucks. Now if you'll excuse me I must return these grapes, I'm sure they are sour.
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
As of May 1, 2012, we had 41 people on the roll call for TAM X. Now we have 26. What do people make of this?
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Some people are getting tired of lists?
Some people don't visit the forums as much as they used to?

Fewer people going to TAM this year, in general?
Maybe it's diminishing returns or conference fatigue?
Maybe people are frightened by the thought of Scrut showing up?

Maybe we can somehow blame PZ Myers?
 
Patricio Elicer said:
I very much regret to say that TAM XI will be the missing link of my TAM chain. The semester at the Univ has extended till the end of July, exceptionally this year, which makes it impossible for me to leave for one week (normally I'm out from Wed to Wed), at the time the final exams take place.

So, cheers in advance to my friends I usually hang out with at the Del Mar. Scrut, MarkB, Zooterkin, Paul C., Winslow, AdMan ... and others. I'll be there "in spirit" with all of you, especially on every round of beers :).

See you all next year, for sure.
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Unacceptable!!! Don't make me come back to Chile!
 
Wowbagger said:
Some people are getting tired of lists?
Some people don't visit the forums as much as they used to?

Fewer people going to TAM this year, in general?
Maybe it's diminishing returns or conference fatigue?
Maybe people are frightened by the thought of Scrut showing up?

Maybe we can somehow blame PZ Myers?
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Maybe people are upset that the skydiving has been canceled?
 
I'm afraid I'm off this year's attendee list, too, and I'm really going to miss all of the dear friends I look forward to bear hugging every year. It's not conference fatigue or anything like that. I am terrified of Scrut, but that's nothing new. As it happens I'll actually be out of town TAM weekend, but there are other reasons I don't feel right buying a ticket this year.

I've always felt that my role as a regular female TAM attendee isn't just to come to conferences and drop a lot of cash on bumper stickers and booze. It's to motivate as many other women to attend as possible. I do this in a lot of ways, including organizing get-to-know-you events, being a TAMbassador, doing lots of obnoxious all-caps cheerleading on the forum, etc. But really the most effective way I've found to motivate women to come is to share my own experiences as an attendee. I reassure them that while they might be in the minority gender-wise they'll feel like part of a unified whole. That if anyone makes them feel uncomfortable, their new friends and the JREF itself will have their back in a split second. That they'll leave the conference feeling like a part of something bigger, that they'll be empowered and motivated to go home and become more active in their own local skeptic communities.

The reality is that I don't feel I can make those kinds of reassurances anymore. I'm not saying that nobody can; I'm talking about my own personal experience as a woman skeptic in the DJ Grothe era. All the drama and splintering factions and us-versus-themness has really changed the atmosphere for me. I saw my own lack of enthusiasm in promoting TAM this year as a sign that I need to take a break as well.

Sorry to be a downer here; I know there's nothing DJ hates more than a negative nellie. But I needed to say what's been on my mind.
 
saganite said:
I'm afraid I'm off this year's attendee list, too, and I'm really going to miss all of the dear friends I look forward to bear hugging every year. It's not conference fatigue or anything like that. I am terrified of Scrut, but that's nothing new. As it happens I'll actually be out of town TAM weekend, but there are other reasons I don't feel right buying a ticket this year.
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Damn. I was going to proposition you in the elevator this year. Unless I already did that last year. I forget.

saganite said:
I've always felt that my role as a regular female TAM attendee isn't just to come to conferences and drop a lot of cash on bumper stickers and booze. It's to motivate as many other women to attend as possible. I do this in a lot of ways, including organizing get-to-know-you events, being a TAMbassador, doing lots of obnoxious all-caps cheerleading on the forum, etc. But really the most effective way I've found to motivate women to come is to share my own experiences as an attendee. I reassure them that while they might be in the minority gender-wise they'll feel like part of a unified whole. That if anyone makes them feel uncomfortable, their new friends and the JREF itself will have their back in a split second. That they'll leave the conference feeling like a part of something bigger, that they'll be empowered and motivated to go home and become more active in their own local skeptic communities.

The reality is that I don't feel I can make those kinds of reassurances anymore. I'm not saying that nobody can; I'm talking about my own personal experience as a woman skeptic in the DJ Grothe era. All the drama and splintering factions and us-versus-themness has really changed the atmosphere for me. I saw my own lack of enthusiasm in promoting TAM this year as a sign that I need to take a break as well.

Sorry to be a downer here; I know there's nothing DJ hates more than a negative nellie. But I needed to say what's been on my mind.
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I'd say DJ isn't the one creating any of it. :)
 
saganite said:
I'm afraid I'm off this year's attendee list, too, and I'm really going to miss all of the dear friends I look forward to bear hugging every year. It's not conference fatigue or anything like that. I am terrified of Scrut, but that's nothing new. As it happens I'll actually be out of town TAM weekend, but there are other reasons I don't feel right buying a ticket this year.
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Good. You just dragged the place down. :p

Actually, it makes me feel not quite so bad about not going this year.
 
Hope I did this correctly...

Baloney said:
[table=head]Forum Name|Real Name (optional)|Arrival Date & Time|How|Departure Date & Time|How|Notes
Allecher|Lei | July 9 | SWA | July 15 |SWA |
AZAtheist|Don & Nancy Lacey|July 10 3 PM|'97 TBird|July 15 9 AM|Broke and Hung Over|G-G-G-Eb
Baloney|Mark P White | 9 July 9:40pm | Air | 15 July 11:40pm |More Air | Ironically flying Spirit Air
Brown||TBD|Jet|TBD|Jet|It's not a done deal yet, but I'm still planning on it. At TAM, I hope to speak about Predicting the Future.
Bumlet5|Ashley|July 10/Late|Vehicular Transport|July 14/Late|Same Vehicle as Arrival|Founding member of Redheads In The Del Mar
Crazylegsmurphy|Mr Personality|||||I think making a list is a terrible idea
Ed Baehr|Ed Baehr|July 9|Trebuchet|July 15|Tunneling back to NY|I'll be doing some professional level skulking
Denver|Rick D|July 10 10:28AM|Frontier|July 15 11:15AM|Frontier|First timer/Tamer
Ed Baehr|Ed Baehr|July 9|Trebuchet|July 15|Tunneling back to NY|I'll be doing some professional level skulking
Hokulele Mom|Mom|July 10|Airplane|July 15|Airplane|Sushi lunch date
Horatius|Dave Green|July 10|United 1741|July 16|United|I'd be up for Sushi!
Hutch|David J. Hutchinson|10 July|Plane|15 July|Different Plane|Pre or Post TAM trip?
Kil|David Glück|July 10|Plane|July 15|Plane|That's my plan anyhow.
Kochanski|me|July 10|da plane|July 15|da plane|will be found at forum table and playing games in the Del Mar
krelnik|Tim Farley|10 July|Plane|15 July|Plane|Presenting
LarianLeQuella | Steve Lundquist | 10 Jul | SouthWest 2605 @ 5:05PM | 15 Jul | SouthWest 470 @ 9:40 AM | Sushi! And all the fun stuff!
Lucian|Eve Siebert|Eventually|Magic|Later|Teleport|Part of a workshop thingy
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos|Ditto|July 10|by air|July 15|by air|Trust me
rjblaskiewicz|Bob Blaskiewicz|???|flying kerjigger|few days later|in a huff|if there's an Angry Birds slot, I'm in trouble
Sc00ter|Travis|July 9th 2:43pm|JetBlue #377|July 15th 10:05am|JetBlue #178|Bringing the wife again.
ShadowSot|Michael Fulford| Day of?| Fly in, boy will my arms be tired|Dunno yet| Launch into LEO| Toes crossed on this.
spruce22|Steven|July 10|Aeroplane|July 15|Positivity Vehicle|This cell intentionally left blank
The Central Scrutinizer|A. Lanza, Comedian/Shooter |10 July @ ??:??|Boeing Dreamliner|15 July @ ??:??|Boeing Dreamliner|Under observation by the plainclothes police
Wowbagger|Mitch Lampert|July 12 or earlier|Flight, most likely|July 14 or later|Airship|SkyJump, anyone?
xenxabar|Aaron|9 July @ 1505 |SWA|15 July @ 1450|SWA|Beef jerky
zooterkin|Andy|July 9|Virgin, probably|July 16 |Another Virgin|Not Richard Saunders, or any other Australian
jamescharge|James|July 10 at 13:45|SWA|July 15 at 2205|SWA|Be gentle, it's my first time
[/table]
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The Central Scrutinizer said:
Damn. I was going to proposition you in the elevator this year. Unless I already did that last year. I forget.



I'd say DJ isn't the one creating any of it. :)
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Stop baiting me -- I know better than to open THAT can of worms again. And for the record, you proposition me in the elevator every year.
 
[table=head]Forum Name|Real Name (optional)|Arrival Date & Time|How|Departure Date & Time|How|Notes
Allecher|Lei | July 9 | SWA | July 15 |SWA |
AZAtheist|Don & Nancy Lacey|July 10 3 PM|'97 TBird|July 15 9 AM|Broke and Hung Over|G-G-G-Eb
Baloney|Mark P White | 9 July 9:40pm | Air | 15 July 11:40pm |More Air | Ironically flying Spirit Air
Brown||TBD|Jet|TBD|Jet|It's not a done deal yet, but I'm still planning on it. At TAM, I hope to speak about Predicting the Future.
Bumlet5|Ashley|July 10/Late|Vehicular Transport|July 14/Late|Same Vehicle as Arrival|Founding member of Redheads In The Del Mar
Crazylegsmurphy|Mr Personality|||||I think making a list is a terrible idea
Ed Baehr|Ed Baehr|July 9|Trebuchet|July 15|Tunneling back to NY|I'll be doing some professional level skulking
Denver|Rick D|July 10 10:28AM|Frontier|July 15 11:15AM|Frontier|First timer/Tamer
Ed Baehr|Ed Baehr|July 9|Trebuchet|July 15|Tunneling back to NY|I'll be doing some professional level skulking
Hokulele Mom|Mom|July 10|Airplane|July 15|Airplane|Sushi lunch date
Horatius|Dave Green|July 10|United 1741|July 16|United|I'd be up for Sushi!
Hutch|David J. Hutchinson|10 July|Plane|15 July|Different Plane|Pre or Post TAM trip?
jamescharge|James|July 10 at 13:45|SWA|July 15 at 22:05|SWA|Be gentle, it's my first time
Kil|David Glück|July 10|Plane|July 15|Plane|That's my plan anyhow.
Kochanski|me|July 10|da plane|July 15|da plane|will be found at forum table and playing games in the Del Mar
krelnik|Tim Farley|10 July|Plane|15 July|Plane|Presenting
LarianLeQuella | Steve Lundquist | 10 Jul | SouthWest 2605 @ 5:05PM | 15 Jul | SouthWest 470 @ 9:40 AM | Sushi! And all the fun stuff!
Lucian|Eve Siebert|Eventually|Magic|Later|Teleport|Part of a workshop thingy
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos|Ditto|July 10|by air|July 15|by air|Trust me
rjblaskiewicz|Bob Blaskiewicz|???|flying kerjigger|few days later|in a huff|if there's an Angry Birds slot, I'm in trouble
Sc00ter|Travis|July 9th 2:43pm|JetBlue #377|July 15th 10:05am|JetBlue #178|Bringing the wife again.
ShadowSot|Michael Fulford| Day of?| Fly in, boy will my arms be tired|Dunno yet| Launch into LEO| Toes crossed on this.
spruce22|Steven|July 10|Aeroplane|July 15|Positivity Vehicle|This cell intentionally left blank
The Central Scrutinizer|A. Lanza, Comedian/Shooter |10 July @ ??:??|Boeing Dreamliner|15 July @ ??:??|Boeing Dreamliner|Under observation by the plainclothes police
Wowbagger|Mitch Lampert|July 12 or earlier|Flight, most likely|July 14 or later|Airship|SkyJump, anyone?
xenxabar|Aaron|9 July @ 1505 |SWA|15 July @ 1450|SWA|Beef jerky
zooterkin|Andy|July 9|Virgin, probably|July 16 |Another Virgin|Not Richard Saunders, or any other Australian
[/table]
 
saganite said:
The reality is that I don't feel I can make those kinds of reassurances anymore. I'm not saying that nobody can; I'm talking about my own personal experience as a woman skeptic in the DJ Grothe era. All the drama and splintering factions and us-versus-themness has really changed the atmosphere for me. I saw my own lack of enthusiasm in promoting TAM this year as a sign that I need to take a break as well.
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I'm sorry you won't be there.

I think the "skeptical movement" has entered the politicization phase. It happens to every organization or group when they become big enough. It is my plan to ignore the politics completely, as I try to do for every aspect of life, including politics.

~~ Paul
 
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