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Why is there so much crackpot physics?

Originally Posted by Kwalish Kid
The real problem that Farsight has with the Higgs mechanism is that Farsight believes that the only thing that exists is photons...


No I don't. Neutrinos exist. They aren't photons. So that's you bowled out. Who's next?
So the universe consists of nothing but space, time, photons and neutrinos -- that's it! But when we look around we see a rich diversity of stuff, not merely photons and neutrinos. So, one might ask, what are the mechanisms that account for this diversity? How do these photons and neutrinos become bacon and eggs? I have seen Farsight's explanation that the photons are behaving as some kind of standing wave -- trapped in some way (in a loop?) to become electrons, for example. So, why are some photons trapped in this way and others not. Is there a "mechanism" for this? Did the omniscient Einstein specify the nature of this mechanism?
Are there subatomic containers into which they all fit? Can Farsight can provide a credible mechanism for why some photons manifest as electromagnetic waves and others are trapped as quarks or electrons?
 
Yes. That's what Einstein said. ...
"What Einstein said" -- a theologian's kind of argument. Especially when coupled with implying that denying Einstein is some great moral evil.

Answer: because you can make an electron (and a positron) from photons in gamma-gamma pair production. The mass of the electron is 511keV. The mass of the "Higgs boson" is 125GeV. So the electron mass can't be because of the Higgs boson. Now can it?
Farsight seems to believe that the Higgs mechanism is the electron having a Higgs particle inside. Talk about gross misunderstandings.

It's because the electron interacts with the Higgs particle and the Higgs-particle field has a ground state with a constant nonzero value. That makes it seem always present to other particles, and that's what gives masses to the other Standard-Model particles that are massive.

They aren't my arguments. They're Einstein's.
So you are claiming that you are essentially a faithful Einstein-thumper?

And I repeat: I'm telling you what Einstein said. Now I suggest you go and read Einstein's E=mc² paper, and pay attention.
As if Einstein was a prophet of revealed truth and as if his writings are some sacred book.

And after all, where does the mass of the "Higgs boson" itself come from?
The mechanism that makes it have its mass is something outside the Standard Model, and it is currently unknown.

However, in supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Model like the MSSM, the Higgs mass is a byproduct of supersymmetry breaking.

(Farsight's "evidence": pair production, wave-particle duality, the electron's magnetic moment, ...)

All of it is consistent with the Standard Model, and the SM involves relativistic quantum field theory. Electrons are not circling photons in the SM but fundamental fields like the photon itself. The Higgs mechanism is automatically consistent with E = mc^2, for instance.

What's the evidence for the Higgs boson? Damn statistics and a bump on a graph.
So that means that it is not a Real Particle?

The Higgs mechanism is a dead man walking, ct. Because it's going up against E=mc².
Demonstrably false. E = mc^2 is a result of special-relativistic kinematics, and it is independent of the Higgs mechanism.
 
So the universe consists of nothing but space, time, photons and neutrinos -- that's it!
Not really. If you want to boil it right down, the universe consists of nothing but energy. Interestingly, at the fundamental level you can't separate space and energy. But that's one for another day.

But when we look around we see a rich diversity of stuff, not merely photons and neutrinos. So, one might ask, what are the mechanisms that account for this diversity?
We call them fields and waves and forces. The usual stuff.

How do these photons and neutrinos become bacon and eggs? I have seen Farsight's explanation that the photons are behaving as some kind of standing wave -- trapped in some way (in a loop?) to become electrons, for example.
In a double loop. That's a bit of a simplification, but nevermind. It has to be a double loop otherwise you don't have any self-interaction.

So, why are some photons trapped in this way and others not. Is there a "mechanism" for this? Did the omniscient Einstein specify the nature of this mechanism?
Yes of course there's a mechanism. Gamma-gamma pair production happens, through a mechanism, not magic. But note that the only ingredients are gamma photons. It's an electromagnetic-electromagnetic interaction. Einstein didn't specify the nature of it.

Are there subatomic containers into which they all fit?
No. It's a self-containment, down to field interaction and wave harmonics. There's only two wavelengths where it works as far as I know. The electron and the proton (and their antiparticles) are the only stable particles with unequivocal mass. The neutron's not bad, but it's not fully stable, and that takes us into Beta decay and neutrinos. The latter have no mass or charge to speak of, and travel as so close to c that actually they're more like photons than electrons. Think of the slight mass oscillation as something like a photon slowing down and speeding up a fraction, gaining and losing effective mass. By itself. Self-interaction again. Photons of course don't slow down and speed up all by themselves, they aren't the same as neutrinos.

Can Farsight can provide a credible mechanism for why some photons manifest as electromagnetic waves and others are trapped as quarks or electrons?
It's just displacement current and that double-loop configuration I mentioned. The photon displaces its own path into a closed path. Have a read of The role of the potentials in electromagnetism by Percy Hammond and see the bit near the end: "We conclude that the field describes the curvature that characterizes the electromagnetic interaction." You know how LIGO says "some of this space-time curvature ripples outwards". A photon isn't totally different to a gravitational wave. It's better to call it spatial curvature though. Electromagnetism isn't the same as gravity.
 
No I don't. Neutrinos exist. They aren't photons. So that's you bowled out. Who's next?
It's interesting that apparently the remainder of my description you find to be correct.

It is also interesting that for perhaps the 20th time, you have avoided these direct questions:

"why does the expansion rate of a homogeneous matter dominated universe slow?"

Can you provide a detailed scale for the inhomogeneity that you identify as being so great in the universe?

Can you please provide us with a detailed model for your claim that in a universe as homogeneous as you identify the universe to be, gravity will cause the matter in the universe to coalesce into one central lump, but it will not do the same to space?

Can you please give us the equation for the pressure that you identify as being an innate feature of empty space? (And please do not dodge the question as you often do by claiming that this is Phil Plait's idea. You are endorsing the pressure and you are using it as the basis of your claims.)

Can you explain why every practicing cosmologist engaged in "a misunderstanding of gravity and a disregard for space" since (at least) 1920?

Can you please provide a citation as to when this misunderstanding and disregard was rectified?

Can you point to where this misunderstanding and disregard occurs in standard papers on cosmology?

Why is it that conservation of energy says the dark energy density can't stay the same? In your answer, please clearly state the law of conservation of energy in a form usable in a physics application.

Those who have to power of google know that you were booted from the BAUT forums for failing to answer questions and for insulting those who did ask you questions.
 
"What Einstein said" -- a theologian's kind of argument. Especially when coupled with implying that denying Einstein is some great moral evil.
It's not a theologiaan's argument to refer to the E=mc² paper and all the supporting evidence like pair production and electron diffraction and Einstein-de Haas, etc etc. It's a theologian's argument to dismiss it.

Farsight seems to believe that the Higgs mechanism is the electron having a Higgs particle inside. Talk about gross misunderstandings.
Geddoutofit. I'm saying the electron has mass because of E=mc² and Higgs is nothing to do with it.

It's because the electron interacts with the Higgs particle
Shows what you know. The Higgs mechanism where the electron is said to have mass because it interacts with the Higgs field. The Higgs particle is said to be an excitation of the Higgs field. And at 125GeV, you can't fit too many of them in a 511keV electron, can you? BaBoom! Flat on your face, Loren.

...and the Higgs-particle field has a ground state with a constant nonzero value. That makes it seem always present to other particles, and that's what gives masses to the other Standard-Model particles that are massive.
So it always seems present to a photon then does it? No! The photon doesn't have mass, but when you trap it as a standing wave in a box, it adds mass to that system, and it's down to E=mc² and nothing to do with the Higgs mechanism whatsoever. But electrons exist as standing waves too. But what, their mass isn't down to E=mc² and like a rabbit out of a hat it's down to the cosmic-treacle Higgs mechanism instead? Pull the other one lpetrich.

So you are claiming that you are essentially a faithful Einstein-thumper? As if Einstein was a prophet of revealed truth and as if his writings are some sacred book.
Change the record lpetrich. Talk physics.

The mechanism that makes it [the Higgs boson] have its mass is something outside the Standard Model, and it is currently unknown.
No it isn't. It's E=mc² and you know it.

However, in supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Model like the MSSM, the Higgs mass is a byproduct of supersymmetry breaking.
Ah SUSY. Google on SUSY in trouble.

(Farsight's "evidence": pair production, wave-particle duality, the electron's magnetic moment, ...) All of it is consistent with the Standard Model, and the SM involves relativistic quantum field theory.
Yep. All plain vanilla physics supported by rock solid evidence. Unlike SUSY!

Electrons are not circling photons in the SM but fundamental fields like the photon itself.
They will be.

The Higgs mechanism is automatically consistent with E = mc^2, for instance.
No it isn't. It contradicts it.

So that means that it is not a Real Particle?
Whatever they think they've found lasts for no time flat. It doesn't leave a track. It isn't directly detected and it could be anything.

Demonstrably false. E = mc^2 is a result of special-relativistic kinematics, and it is independent of the Higgs mechanism.
Ah but you said The Higgs mechanism is automatically consistent with E = mc^2. So are they consistent? Or independent? Make your mind up, and try to be a bit more convincing.
 
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So simple that you can't fault it. Why don't have you a crack at that? Tell us why it's wrong, bob.

Please use my correct name, Farsight - ctamblyn, not "bob".

I would love to enlighten you on the subject of spontaneous symmetry breaking and the Higgs mechanism, Farsight, but before I can show you exactly where you've gone wrong I need to understand exactly what you believe.

Let's start at the beginning, and perhaps we can put you back on the right path.

Farsight: Please show us how you think the Higgs mechanism works, either in the context of the standard model or in a simplified relativistic QFT.
 
Ah but you said The Higgs mechanism is automatically consistent with E = mc^2. So are they consistent? Or independent? Make your mind up,

(...snip...)

Basic logic. The following propositions are logically compatible with each other:

(1) SR neither requires nor forbids the Higgs mechanism to be realised in nature.

(2) The Higgs mechanism and SR are mutually consistent.

Indeed, (2) is a corollary of (1).
 
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Farsight said:
So simple that you can't fault it. Why don't have you a crack at that? Tell us why it's wrong.
I would love to enlighten you on the subject of spontaneous symmetry breaking and the Higgs mechanism, Farsight, but before I can show you exactly where you've gone wrong I need to understand exactly what you believe.
I made that crystal clear in post 1241. You can't fault it, can you? If you could you'd be all over it like a rash.

Let's start at the beginning, and perhaps we can put you back on the right path. Farsight: Please show us how you think the Higgs mechanism works, either in the context of the standard model or in a simplified relativistic QFT.
No. I've told you how mass works and you can't fault it because I've got Einstein and all the evidence on my side. Now it's your turn. You tell me how you think mass works, and I'll rip it to shreds.

Gotta go. I'm out tomorrow. Should give you plenty of time to get your mass explanation together. Oh and by the way, read A Zeptospace Odyssey. Guidice gives it straight from the horse's mouth. He's a CERN physicist remember? And he says the Higgs sector is the toilet of the standard model. Let me translate that for you: it stinks to high heaven and it's full of ....

Ciao for now. Farsight has left the building!
 
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BurntSynapse seems to be looking at things in terms of the defined goal being "discover FTL travel", and then complaining that because we haven't laid out a nice Gantt chart with all the bits of research that need doing to get to that point, there must be a problem with physics in general. But note that he hasn't actually provided such a chart himself. Because it's just not possible to do so. No-one knows if FTL travel is possible at all, let alone what specific tasks need to be completed in what order and on what schedule in order to get there. So complaining that we haven't done so just doesn't make sense.

Which is what seems to me to be one of the key inconsistencies with BurntSynapse's stated position. By in fact appealing to a "future unknown state of nature"...


Decisions are justified on the bases of available information, not the future unknown state of nature. Thus, purchasing a lottery ticket can be justified economically when the expected value reaches a positive value, like a $100M jackpot has accumulated, and $50M ticket will be sold for that draw.

Since we cannot know at the decision point (purchase) whether a ticket wins, appealing to a future unknown as a justification for doing anything would be a mistake.

This common error is one of the first we learn in graduate decision science: good decisions are not based on non-existent future outcomes, they are good/bad decisions based on how well we analyze available information at the decision point.

, discovery of FTL travel, as the basis of some "decision point" he simply feels is currently being made incorrectly.
 
BurntSynapse seems to be looking at things in terms of the defined goal being "discover FTL travel",
This especially seems to be true if one has biases against my perspective sufficient to regard it as "a perfect demonstration of exactly what leads people to crackpot physics" without understanding my position or hearing 5 minutes of explanation available at the click of a a mouse.

This seems like willful ignorance supporting a lack of understanding logic, resulting in sloppy categorization. For example: my assertion that 'long-term, persistent problems in physics exist' is not refuted by correctly citing millions of fabulous successes in physics. It is refuted by demonstrating the contra-positive, i.e.: demonstrating "no instances of long-term, persistent problems in physics exist".

...and then complaining that because we haven't laid out a nice Gantt chart
This is another instance of you attributing to me a belief opposite to I've carefully explained. I've written about why I consider expert claims of the need for revolution credible, I've provided links to presentations and talks explaining how that consideration is derived, and the entire episode Starship Vlog 007 is based on explaining why criteria like ability to produce "a Gantt charts with all the bits of research that need doing" is incompatible with project planning best practices...I even provide the PMBOK section most directly explaining.

But note that he hasn't actually provided such a chart himself.
In other words, I've been caught doing what the PMBOK describes as good practice, and not done or recommended the opposite.

Because it's just not possible to do so.
On this point, you agree with me, and Dave Neyland, but don't seem to want to agree on anything.

Where did I give anyone these crazy ideas you keep ascribing? If you only provide a hand wave to "posts", with no examples cited, and an incorrect, bald assertion that I object to the fact "we haven't quite worked out all the details", I don't have any response other than to repeat my actual position, which hasn't seemed to do much good.

No-one knows if FTL travel is possible at all, let alone what specific tasks need to be completed in what order and on what schedule in order to get there.
This is exactly why I emphasize, illustrate, and give examples of progressive elaboration, which I thought sufficient for the concept to register with the average viewer.
 
They can read it for themselves and see just how many questions I answered and how many insults I received before I was banned on specious grounds. Because I was winning.

Funny, but your link actually shows far more of my questions than the ones below that you avoided answering. It seems that in three years you have done nothing of note to advance your knowledge of the physics involved. You still cannot use your theories to produce something as banal as the perihelion advance of Mercury or a galaxy rotation curve, for all that you claim that your theory explains them.

It is also interesting that for perhaps the 21st time, you have avoided these direct questions:

"why does the expansion rate of a homogeneous matter dominated universe slow?"

Can you provide a detailed scale for the inhomogeneity that you identify as being so great in the universe?

Can you please provide us with a detailed model for your claim that in a universe as homogeneous as you identify the universe to be, gravity will cause the matter in the universe to coalesce into one central lump, but it will not do the same to space?

Can you please give us the equation for the pressure that you identify as being an innate feature of empty space? (And please do not dodge the question as you often do by claiming that this is Phil Plait's idea. You are endorsing the pressure and you are using it as the basis of your claims.)

Can you explain why every practicing cosmologist engaged in "a misunderstanding of gravity and a disregard for space" since (at least) 1920?

Can you please provide a citation as to when this misunderstanding and disregard was rectified?

Can you point to where this misunderstanding and disregard occurs in standard papers on cosmology?

Why is it that conservation of energy says the dark energy density can't stay the same? In your answer, please clearly state the law of conservation of energy in a form usable in a physics application.
 
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The electron is similar but it's like a photon in a box of its own making.

Except that it's not. Not at all. This is not real physics, this is Farsight/Relativity+ crackpottery.

The electron's mass is, as far as every experiment and well-tested theory can tell, an ordinary quantum-field-theory bare mass. It is not the kinetic energy of some internal dynamics. "An electron is like a photon in a box" is something you made up by drawing a picture of it and daydreaming about it.

The electron is, according to all well-tested theory and all experiment, a point particle. Its mass is an ordinary point-particle bare mass, something that's permitted in the Standard Model thanks to the "Higgs mechanism", a Lorentz-invariant quantum field theory that Farsight read about on the Internet somewhere.
 
No. I've told you how mass works and you can't fault it because I've got Einstein and all the evidence on my side.

I'm sorry to tell you this yet again, but the loopy photon model of the electron has been comprehensively refuted. That has nothing to do with the Higgs mechanism, either. If the recent Higgs candidate is what it seems to be, it is merely putting a redundant nail into a coffin that was buried long ago.

Now it's your turn. You tell me how you think mass works, and I'll rip it to shreds.

OK, Farsight. Let me first describe a very simplified picture of the mechanism, before we even think about moving on to anything more complex.

Let's start with two fields: a neutral massless spin-1/2 field ψ (a spinor) and a neutral massless spin-0 field φ (a scalar). The equations of motion of both fields are Lorentz-covariant (the Dirac equation and the Klein-Gordon equation, respectively).

We can write down a simple Lagrangian (actually a Lagrangian density) for this two-field theory:

L = (Dirac kinetic term) + (Klein-Gordon kinetic term)​

This Lagrangian business is really just a shorthand for the field equations, at least as far as we're concerned for now. You can get the Dirac and K-G field equations from L by a basically mechanical mathematical process.

I hope you have followed this well enough so far to appreciate that the simple two-field theory we've constructed is, at least so far, Lorentz-covariant, i.e. compatible with SR.

Now let's introduce the simplest possible non-trivial Lorentz-invariant interaction between the two fields. We change the Lagrangian like so:

L ---> L - gφψ'ψ​

The symbol g here is our coupling constant. The field ψ' is (basically) the antiparticle field corresponding to ψ (technically it's the Dirac adjoint of ψ; normally denoted differently, but LaTeX isn't working, so...). The interaction term -g.φ.ψ'ψ is a product of Lorentz-invariant terms, and so we're still compatible with SR.

Now we introduce some "potential energy" terms for the φ field, an interaction between the φ particles if you like, like so:

L ---> L - W(φ).​

Here, W is just some Lorentz-invariant scalar function with the special property that it is minimized at some positive value of φ. Before introducing these terms, the energy of the scalar field was minimized at φ = 0. Now, however, it is minimized at some non-zero value of φ, let's call it k.

Note that all we've done so far is take our original Lorentz-invariant simple Lagrangian and add a few Lorentz-invariant terms to it. The end result is still, clearly, Lorentz-invariant.

Now, when we observe particles, we're really observing small disturbances of the fields around their vacuum states, and vacuum states are just those states where the field has minimum energy. With the introduction of W above, the vacuum is no longer at φ = 0, but rather φ = k. So when we observe particles associated with the φ-field, we'll actually be looking at small oscillations of the field around φ = k. We say that the φ field has acquired a non-zero vacuum expectation value of k.

So, in experiments we'll see that φ = k + (a small oscillation). For our own convenience we can define a new field, call it ρ, equal to (φ - k). This field ρ has a zero vacuum expectation value, by construction. If we rewrite the Lagrangian in terms of ρ, we find:

  1. The kinetic terms are trivial to work out, as they depend only on the derivatives of the scalar field.
  2. The interaction term -gφψ'ψ is equal to -gρψ'ψ - gkψ'ψ. This is important, as we'll see.
  3. There is still a "potential energy" term which, by construction, is now some function V(ρ) which is minimized at ρ = 0 (this was the whole point of introducing ρ).

In other words,

L = (Dirac kinetic term) - gkψ'ψ + (ρ-field kinetic term) - V(ρ) - gρψ'ψ.​

Look at this closely:
  • The first two terms, as you can check for yourself, are the Lagrangian for a massive spinor field with mass gk.
  • The second two terms are the Lagrangian for a scalar field ρ with a mass and self-interactions depending on the details of the function V(ρ).
  • The last term describes an interaction between the spinor and scalar fields with a coupling constant g.
  • Each term is Lorentz invariant, and so the whole thing is Lorentz invariant.

In conclusion, we started with a theory of a massless fermion coupled to a scalar field, where the scalar field acquired a non-zero V.E.V. As a result of the coupling between the scalar and the fermion, we find that the observable particles of the theory actually appear to be massive fermions interacting with a (different) scalar field.

At no point did we break the Lorentz invariance of the Lagrangian. I'm sure you understand what that implies.

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To the physicists here: if I made any errors above (algebraic or logical), I apologise unreservedly. Please point them out (gently) and I promise to try harder next time :)
 
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Gotta go. I'm out tomorrow. Should give you plenty of time to get your mass explanation together. Oh and by the way, read A Zeptospace Odyssey. Guidice gives it straight from the horse's mouth. He's a CERN physicist remember? And he says the Higgs sector is the toilet of the standard model. Let me translate that for you: it stinks to high heaven and it's full of ....
He might not be the mechanism's greatest fan, but I am confident he'd have no problem saying that the theory is entirely compatible with relativity. I think he'd probably consider that an understatement in fact.

Also you might want* to hold a vote at CERN among the physicists there to find out how many agree with him anyway.

*want does not imply an ability to achieve
 
Which is what seems to me to be one of the key inconsistencies with BurntSynapse's stated position. By in fact appealing to a "future unknown state of nature"...
A state of nature is far different than a vision of success we might use to frame and plan productive work, in the same way seeking the vision of "balance" in nature led to the development of artificial fertilizer.

Nancy Nersessian's model in "Creating Scientific Concepts" provides what I think a spectacularly good, first model of how these processes work.

...some "decision point" he simply feels is currently being made incorrectly.
It's good to understand something before we criticize.

Decision points are well defined in decision theory. The tone of your objection suggests that you have no interest in considering the merit of decision science, where the prevailing model deals with decision points as a basic tool of the trade.

You seem to claim or imply I have not provided plausible evidence of risk indicators that should be seriously considered.

If you can provide specifics, I would like to be made aware of justified, specific flaws in my thinking, but if critics are unwilling to understand the basis for that thinking, they cannot provide much helpful critique...and I am pretty busy with frankly higher priority than teaching people to swim outside their current depth.
 
Gotta go. I'm out tomorrow. Should give you plenty of time to get your mass explanation together. Oh and by the way, read A Zeptospace Odyssey. Guidice gives it straight from the horse's mouth. He's a CERN physicist remember? And he says the Higgs sector is the toilet of the standard model. Let me translate that for you: it stinks to high heaven and it's full of ....

By the way, statements like this lend considerable weight to lpetrich's categorisation of your arguments as "a theologian's kind of arguments", and tend to reinforce my own view that the only remotely coherent objections to the Higgs model are ultimately aesthetic in nature, and irrelevant.

The truth about the Higgs will be revealed neither by armchair philosophy, nor wishful thinking, nor passionate declarations of affection for alternative models. Actually looking at nature is the only way to decide at this stage.
 
ctamblyn, good job in explaining the math behind the Higgs mechanism of mass generation. Thanx.

Yes of course there's a mechanism. Gamma-gamma pair production happens, through a mechanism, not magic. But note that the only ingredients are gamma photons. It's an electromagnetic-electromagnetic interaction. Einstein didn't specify the nature of it.
There is NO direct electromagnetic-electromagnetic interaction. Pair production is the result of two separate photon absorptions, though two very close ones.

Some Feynman diagrams In the middle is a Feynman diagram of Thomson scattering, a photon scattering off of an electron. It also shows two closely related ones, one for pair production and one for annihilation. All you have to do is change the time direction.

What's especially nice is that one can predict the rates of these processes, rates that agree with experiment. Unlike mainstream quantum field theory, Farsight's circling-photon theory seems incapable of making such predictions.

The neutron's not bad, but it's not fully stable, and that takes us into Beta decay and neutrinos. The latter have no mass or charge to speak of, and travel as so close to c that actually they're more like photons than electrons.
That is dumb. Neutrinos' traveling close to c does not make them very photon-like.

It's not a theologiaan's argument to refer to the E=mc² paper ...
Which you treat as revealed truth.
I'm saying the electron has mass because of E=mc² and Higgs is nothing to do with it.
E = mc^2 says nothing about what rest mass a particle may have.

The Higgs mechanism where the electron is said to have mass because it interacts with the Higgs field. The Higgs particle is said to be an excitation of the Higgs field. And at 125GeV, you can't fit too many of them in a 511keV electron, can you? BaBoom! Flat on your face, Loren.
Except that the Higgs mechanism does NOT work that way. It does NOT involve making Higgs-field excitations.

They can read it for themselves and see just how many questions I answered and how many insults I received before I was banned on specious grounds. Because I was winning.
Look at all the people who disagree, like moderator Tusenfem in post 196:
Farsight, are you finally going to come up with something substantial in this thread? Apparently, you are the self proclaimed expert on Einstein's relativity, but you cannot use the math that comes with it. Just claiming "that is not Einstein's math" does not suffice, and more links to wikipedia does not help either. This thread is heading quickly to its demise.
 
Except that the Higgs mechanism does NOT work that way. It does NOT involve making Higgs-field excitations.

Indeed not. The fermion mass is determined by the strength of the coupling to the scalar field associated with the Higgs, and the scalar's vacuum expectation value.
 

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