Merged The Origin of Two Different Colors of WTC Dust

R.A.F. said:
I thought your background was in bio-medical...are you also claiming to possess a teaching credential?


...and you can go ahead and lie if you like...no one will know, and I don't particularly care...
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To be fair, a PhD (at least in the UK, and assuming things haven't changed since my day) will involve teaching undergraduates at some point and no formal qualification is required. It helps pay the bills and allows more experienced academic staff to be released from teaching duties to do more research.

That is not to say that one will necessarily be skilled at it.
 
WTC Dust said:
I've addressed the question. I haven't evaded it. I told you that I do have some secrets that will remain secret. Some of my results fall into this category. Some things that were secret in the past are no longer secret, but that's how secrets go sometimes.

It's not like I don't respond. I've just decided to focus on a particular style of presentation. I'm not giving you the technical specs on anything I've done, not because I'm hiding anything or evading your question. It's because I want to present this data in the way I want to present it, and the way that I've chosen to present it doesn't require very many technical specs.

I've done this because, like I told you before, I'm teaching 9/11 to dunderheads who don't understand science. You will notice that I avoid any detailed technical specifications in my writings on 9/11, because it's not aimed at a technical audience. You might want to know some of the technical specs, but that is neither here nor there.

As long as you're not actively denying my education and credentials in biomedical science, you can pretty much count on my ability to study DNA. The DNA hasn't even become part of my published work, but I have told JREF about it, specifically to address the contamination issue. It isn't found in the darker dust, but it is found in the lighter dust. Most of the victims were near the perimeter of the building, and rather few of them went to the elevator shafts. Sorta gruesome. Haven't yet decided how to deal with this issue, but I don't mind talking about it here.
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... and planes still struck the WTC.
 
WTC Dust said:
I've addressed the question. I haven't evaded it. I told you that I do have some secrets that will remain secret. Some of my results fall into this category. Some things that were secret in the past are no longer secret, but that's how secrets go sometimes.

It's not like I don't respond. I've just decided to focus on a particular style of presentation. I'm not giving you the technical specs on anything I've done, not because I'm hiding anything or evading your question. It's because I want to present this data in the way I want to present it, and the way that I've chosen to present it doesn't require very many technical specs.

I've done this because, like I told you before, I'm teaching 9/11 to dunderheads who don't understand science. You will notice that I avoid any detailed technical specifications in my writings on 9/11, because it's not aimed at a technical audience. You might want to know some of the technical specs, but that is neither here nor there.

As long as you're not actively denying my education and credentials in biomedical science, you can pretty much count on my ability to study DNA. The DNA hasn't even become part of my published work, but I have told JREF about it, specifically to address the contamination issue. It isn't found in the darker dust, but it is found in the lighter dust. Most of the victims were near the perimeter of the building, and rather few of them went to the elevator shafts. Sorta gruesome. Haven't yet decided how to deal with this issue, but I don't mind talking about it here.
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Well, if the dunderheads tear your work apart and mock your every attempt at legitimacy, what hope could you possibly have with real scientists? We're the easy audience and we correctly see the massive incompetence associated with what passes for work with you. Imagine how you'll be savaged by the tough audience. Face it, what you've done just doesn't measure up.
 
WTC Dust said:
As long as you're not actively denying my education and credentials in biomedical science, you can pretty much count on my ability to study DNA. The DNA hasn't even become part of my published work, but I have told JREF about it, specifically to address the contamination issue. It isn't found in the darker dust, but it is found in the lighter dust. Most of the victims were near the perimeter of the building, and rather few of them went to the elevator shafts. Sorta gruesome. Haven't yet decided how to deal with this issue, but I don't mind talking about it here.
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Why do you keep repeating the same lie?

The darker "fumes/dust" you point to in your avatar is NOT dust.

I've also repeatedly asked why there would be two distinctly different colors of "dust" anyway, you don't explain that.

How does the steel perimeter and steel core produce completely different dust?
 
WTC Dust said:
As long as you agree that I am a biomedical scientist as described, why should it matter to you how I do the DNA work.
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...is shortly followed by

I'm not asking anyone to "trust me".
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Just how many sides of your face can you talk out of at the same time? You've been waving your credentials like an immunity idol for the last two and half years, do you really expect that's suddenly going to start working out better for you?
 
WTC Dust said:
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As long as you're not actively denying my education and credentials in biomedical science, you can pretty much count on my ability to study DNA.
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So, have you ever wondered if there are any experienced/educated individuals here scrutinizing your work? Ignoring this fact alone makes you a hypocritical fraud...you do realize that, don't you?
 
R.A.F. said:
I thought your background was in bio-medical...are you also claiming to possess a teaching credential?


...and you can go ahead and lie if you like...no one will know, and I don't particularly care...
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Yes, after my doctorate and post-doctorate, I went on to get a separate graduate degree in science education.
 
Jim_MDP said:
Ok, I'll take one last stab at this...

I'm a quite intelligent fifty(cough) year old with minor technical degrees but ZERO education in bio-chem. I don't need a technical scientific description about this from you. You gave a description of lab DNA testing you would like to have done, several days ago, so we know you didn't do that.

I presume you performed some test at home which would, I think, be classed as some type of field testing.

My honest query is...
How does one field test for DNA and beyond that... human DNA?

Both are claims that you have made. I couldn't even make a guess as to whether that is even possible.

I don't want the chemistry, just the broad strokes.

If you have some new technique to be kept secret, I would guess that would make you quite wealthy, so I presume that is not the case.
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You haven't yet given me a motivation to reveal my technical specifications. Me posting to JREF is about me testing out some ideas. It has never been about satisfying people.

If there were a good reason that benefited my purpose, I'd reveal the specs. I have some very good reasons not to, not limited to the fact that I have decided to present the evidence in a certain way. If you want me to change my long term strategy, then you'll have to give me a reason that benefits my goals.

Otherwise, it's good enough to know that my PhD was in biomedical science and that I have been fully trained in DNA technology.
 
threadworm said:
To be fair, a PhD (at least in the UK, and assuming things haven't changed since my day) will involve teaching undergraduates at some point and no formal qualification is required. It helps pay the bills and allows more experienced academic staff to be released from teaching duties to do more research.

That is not to say that one will necessarily be skilled at it.
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Most of the time, that is also the case in the United States, but the Graduate School of Biomedical Science is different. They feed graduate students to the University of Texas Houston Health Science Center programs, but there isn't an undergraduate institution associated with GSBS.

There weren't any undergrad courses for us to TA, so I didn't get to do that during my graduate work. I'm glad I got such a strong technical education, but I missed out on teaching opportunities there and had to seek them out later on.
 
Dash80 said:
Why do you keep repeating the same lie?

The darker "fumes/dust" you point to in your avatar is NOT dust.

I've also repeatedly asked why there would be two distinctly different colors of "dust" anyway, you don't explain that.

How does the steel perimeter and steel core produce completely different dust?
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The central core of both of the Twin Towers was made of iron and almost nothing else. The dust coming from this area is made of iron and almost nothing else. Iron is dark in color, much darker than concrete, glass, aluminum, ceramics, gypsum, wood, and carpet fibers, which made up the main part of the buildings. The dust that comes from the main part of the building is lighter in color because the many of the materials that went into that part of the building are lighter in color than iron.
 
brazenlilraisin said:
...is shortly followed by




Just how many sides of your face can you talk out of at the same time? You've been waving your credentials like an immunity idol for the last two and half years, do you really expect that's suddenly going to start working out better for you?
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My DNA work is an added thing. I haven't written about it. It hasn't become a part of my official results. My results that have been presented so far do not have a "trust me" component, and I'm keeping it that way for the foreseeable future.

I might write about the DNA results at some point in time in the future, although that will depend on funding.
 
I don't even know why Dry Dusty is here except for the attention. She's completely unwilling to answer questions or divulge any meaningful information. The likelihood is she has performed zero testing. Getting someone to take 2 photos and wafting a magnet at a sample isn't testing or analysis.

Basically she's stringing everyone along. It's to to crap or get off the pot.
 
MIKILLINI said:
So, have you ever wondered if there are any experienced/educated individuals here scrutinizing your work? Ignoring this fact alone makes you a hypocritical fraud...you do realize that, don't you?
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I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
 
Sunstealer said:
I don't even know why Dry Dusty is here except for the attention. She's completely unwilling to answer questions or divulge any meaningful information. The likelihood is she has performed zero testing. Getting someone to take 2 photos and wafting a magnet at a sample isn't testing or analysis.

Basically she's stringing everyone along. It's to to crap or get off the pot.
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What you are experiencing is a person in control. You all might want the world from me, but I'm only giving you what I want to give you. I'm testing ideas. "How do you detect DNA cheaply outside of a formal laboratory setting?" is not controversial or interesting science.
 
WTC Dust, can we have a summary of the results that are complete or central enough to discuss? These are the ones I suspect you take as central:

1. There were light clouds and dark clouds around WTC on 9/11.

2. You have a clump of dust from Manhattan that has a light and dark part.

3. A magnet on a string was moving at the same time the clump was near it.

4. There are close up pictures of the clump.

5. Ground zero smelled bad for a long time, and you did not recognize the smell to begin with.

These bits of data are supposed to tell the story of why there are two kinds of dust. If there is anything else important, fill me in. It would be nice to escape this cycle of futile DNA (non)discussion.
 
BenjaminTR said:
WTC Dust, can we have a summary of the results that are complete or central enough to discuss? These are the ones I suspect you take as central:

1. There were light clouds and dark clouds around WTC on 9/11.

2. You have a clump of dust from Manhattan that has a light and dark part.

3. A magnet on a string was moving at the same time the clump was near it.

4. There are close up pictures of the clump.

5. Ground zero smelled bad for a long time, and you did not recognize the smell to begin with.

These bits of data are supposed to tell the story of why there are two kinds of dust. If there is anything else important, fill me in. It would be nice to escape this cycle of futile DNA (non)discussion.
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You forgot about the microscopic images of iron fragments and the technique that other researchers are using to obtain these fragments. They isolate them with a magnet. This isn't my work. I haven't "isolated" any iron fragments from my samples. My microscope images are non-isolated samples.

I guess what I could do is develop some kind of calibrated magnetic purification scheme and show two samples, one of which has been separated with a magnet, but that's kind of messy. I might do it.
 
WTC Dust said:
The central core of both of the Twin Towers was made of iron and almost nothing else. The dust coming from this area is made of iron and almost nothing else. Iron is dark in color, much darker than concrete, glass, aluminum, ceramics, gypsum, wood, and carpet fibers, which made up the main part of the buildings. The dust that comes from the main part of the building is lighter in color because the many of the materials that went into that part of the building are lighter in color than iron.
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Why isn't the perimeter steel as dark as the core steel then?

The core had more than just steel. Gypsum enclosed the stairwells, elevator shafts and bathrooms. There were fixtures and tiles in the bathrooms, particularly ceramics.
 
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