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[RandFan]

What does that mean?

Heaven on Earth. As it was during the garden of eden. When lions will lie down with lambs. I imagine it will include a stage show but it will suck. All the talent (gays and lesbians) will be in hell.

 

[desertgal]

God makes sure everyone gets a body but not necessarily enough food to stay alive.

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Just because he is all powerful and all merciful doesn't mean that he should help.

According to Janadele, that child is fortunate.

 

[Empress]

What does that mean?

In the LDS mythology the top Mormon men and women become gods and goddesses in the celestial kingdom. Their home will be this earth which will become different--beautiful beyond compare. I seem to remember it will be like crystal or something.

Anyway, those of us who don't make it to the celestial kingdom will exist on other planets. But the earth being, as we all know, the center of the universe, it only stands to reason that this planet will be the best place to live. I know you're thinking that this dirtball in one star system in one arm of one galaxy out of billions of galaxies in the universe can't possibly be the best place to live, but that just shows you're not going to the celestial kingdom.

ETA: Ninja'ed by RandFan.

 

[RandFan]

According to Janadele, that child is fortunate.

Yeah, while god will help Janadele find her keys it's the child that is truly fortunate. Every Mormon I know of has a faith promoting story. God cured cancer, protected a child from drowning, saved a sleeping mother whose house was on fire. Faith promoting but we are still the unlucky ones. Oh to have lived for a few short years and died an agonizing death. That's the life.

 

[RandFan]

According to Janadele, that child is fortunate.

I wonder if we should even be helping people at all. Isn't this all god's plan? Who are we to save a child? We aren't god. What if by feeding starving children we keep them from their heavenly reward. Perhaps Andrea Yates had the right idea all along. How do we know she wasn't in all actuality implementing god's Plan?

 

[Janadele]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wcJSpw2A-Y

Peace... be still

 

[RandFan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wcJSpw2A-Y

Peace... be still

From the above link:

Thomas, who had doubted, saw the power, majesty, and love of Jesus Christ. Faith in Christ will help people to face their challenges.

Funny how Thomas wasn't robbed of his free will.

 

[RandFan]

God makes sure everyone gets a body but not necessarily enough food to stay alive.

Just because he is all powerful and all merciful doesn't mean that he should help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wcJSpw2A-Y

Peace... be still

That will sure help people starving. Tons of money spent on marketing.

 

[gabeygoat]

we need to send babies down there to repopulate it.

or just fertilize the crops!

 

[joolz]

I wonder if we should even be helping people at all. Isn't this all god's plan? Who are we to save a child? We aren't god. What if by feeding starving children we keep them from their heavenly reward. Perhaps Andrea Yates had the right idea all along. How do we know she wasn't in all actuality implementing god's Plan?

That is so, so sad. The link says she 'read the bible feverishly' and presumably it was her catholicism that indoctrinated her into saying she "would seek to have as many babies as nature allowed", driving her into more pregnancies after she had been warned by experts that she would relapse if she became pregnant again? Maybe she thought god was watching over her and would give her strength to cope, instead he presumably opted for the gift of psychosis and depression. I guess he was having a nap as she broke down and murdered her innocent kids.

She shouldn't have come off her meds. Meds (science) helped, god didn't. Haldol 1 - god 0

I find it ironic that if someone had walked in and caught her in time it would have been 'god' who sent the person to the house and saved the kids, so when no one comes why don't people blame god for choosing to allow the kids to be killed?

 

[joolz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wcJSpw2A-Y

Peace... be still

As it says, it's 'a selection'. One that conveniently fits with the mindset of the minority club making the film. Other religions would select different bits. Some might even portray the guy and his pals as looking like they were actually born in the middle east. When I was touring round Israel and Bethlehem they said jesus wasn't a white American.

Dawkins selects some other bits of the bible too, usually the bits religions, conveniently, forget:

 

[desertgal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wcJSpw2A-Y

Peace... be still

We know. Your "inner contentment" makes you impervious to the horror of a child starving to death. It's their "reward", after all.

 

[RoboTimbo]

It's a Negro.

 

[Craig4]

The veil which obscures knowledge and recall of your pre mortal existence is an integral part of the mortal trial you are at present undertaking.

I don't care about that. I want to know why this plan was not submitted to me for my approval.

 

[abaddon]

It's a Negro.

Probably a slave too, hence it does not matter much.

 

[joolz]

Probably a slave too, hence it does not matter much.

... and a heathen one too

 

[Janadele]

I want to know why this plan was not submitted to me for my approval.

Not only did you approve, it was your choice.

 

[abaddon]

Not only did you approve, it was your choice.

Funny. Back in the day, I believed this crock. You really have nothing else? Your god is that innefectual that it cannot, nay refuses, to alleviate starvation? What a useless god you have.

 

[Slowvehicle]

Not only did you approve, it was your choice.

This may be one of the more disgusting things I have seen you write about your pernicious superstition. I, for one, would appreciate an apology. Your behaviour embodies the old saw about the comparison between flashers and proselytizers.

To make it perfectly clear, I, for one, did not, and do not, approve of the inherently immoral behaviours of your 'god'. Spider Robinson was right--If I were to become convinced of your 'god's' existence, I would have to dedicate myself to finding a way to destroy it.

 

[rcronk]

Perhaps God doesn't feed the hungry because He commanded us to do it. I believe He doesn't do for us what we can and should learn to do for ourselves (i.e. feed the hungry, etc.). I believe He wants us to learn and progress toward selflessness. Is that an acceptable alternative to the false dichotomy presented here?