Merged Boston Marathon CTs

Biscuit said:
Correct me if I am wrong but one guy was wearing a "punisher" hat and one guy had what appears to be a craft logo on his shirt. I recall a photo of two CST members running and one of their jackets is opened up revealing what looks like a craft logo. Any info or am I mistaken?
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The hat is purchasable online, many people that do not work for Craft own it. If it was a Nike hat, would he be accused of working for Nike? This guy, being active duty military, is likely familiar with Craft(who provide training to police and military, they are not mercenaries as claimed), thought the hat looked good, and bought it. I'm guessing he thought he needed the hat to cut down on glare that day, but it is not part of their kit, or else the others would be wearing one.

The logo on the mans chest you are referring to is not a Craft logo. The Craft skull logo is wide and bulbous at the top, and tapers down to the teeth which are narrower, giving an upside down pear shape. The logo on the mans chest, while blurry, appears to be a circle, with a band around the middle of it. It is symmetrical from top to bottom, the Craft logo is not. It also has white writing of some kind underneath it, which I have scoured the web for, and I cannot find any Craft item with similar white writing underneath the logo.

Here is an excellent page further hashing this out, this guy must have seen my post on one of those CT sites a couple days ago and done his own research, digging up many links supporting that they are CSTs. After reviewing them, I am at 100% certainty, absolutely no doubt.

Update: Identity of the Men In Black and Khaki Uniforms at the Boston Marathon Bombings

^ The above link is at dailypaul.com in the 'Daily Paul Liberty Forum'. I in no way endorse the rest of the site, but whoever did the article did an excellent job, many great links, including a few in the comment section(which are sprinkled with the usual CT ramblings).
 
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Childlike Empress said:
If the photo there is any indication, "civil" doesn't mean they are in civilian clothes. Clearly identifiable by "CST" written fat on his uniformed back.
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I would imagine the members of team that are in the 'SEAL/Craft' gear are the covert members of the team, while the members who come up with the visible bullet proof vests and CST patches are not part of the 'covert' team and were in vehicles until the explosion. From my first link-

Comprised of 22 highly skilled, full-time Army and Air Guardsmen, these teams include guardsmen with backgrounds in science, medicine and hazardous materials. The unit is divided into six sections: command, operations, communications, administration/logistics, media/analytic and survey.

And another link saying they were there-
Pentagon Saves National Guard WMD Unit That Helped in Boston

The roughly 20-person New York unit -- based at Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn -- dispatched five personnel to Boston after receiving a request last Friday from the Massachusetts state government, said Eric Durr, public information director for the New York state Military and Naval Affairs Division.

"Anytime you've got a high-key event where there's lots of people, there's usually a ... unit from a civil support team in the area to provide assistance to first responders," Durr told Global Security Newswire by telephone. He declined to discuss specifics of how the 24th personnel provided assistance following the Monday attack.
 
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swright777 said:
It doesn't. It's Civil Support Team, and we've had them for years. Military men working with the civil authorities. We had them with us in Iraq while I was there.
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Yeah that's how I understood the name, would seem logical that they are identifiable. But Scotty's new link links to some articles showing them in similar khaki-black outfit seen at the marathon, although mostly single persons at training exercises, not groups at actual events as far as I can see.

Be that as it may, I don't think it is demanded too much that the authorities clearly inform about who these people were, so that there is no need to speculate. Has been enough of that and the info can't hurt after the event. And if only to shut the "conspiracy theorists" up.
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Be that as it may, I don't think it is demanded too much that the authorities clearly inform about who these people were, so that there is no need to speculate. Has been enough of that and the info can't hurt after the event. And if only to shut the "conspiracy theorists" up.
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I think the authorities would rather let the CTs run wild with speculation than broadcast to potential terrorists all over the world one of Americas key resources for mitigating a WMD attack. In a low key way, on the National Guard site and Mr. Durr in my third link, they have admitted who they were, but they are not going to get out a bullhorn and spill their defense secrets just because some CTers are going bananas.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Another of his bro's announced this an hour ago: http://www.freejahar.com

#FreeJahar is trending. Apparently mostly thanks to people who tell the FBI to investigate users who use the tag for terrorist sympathizers. :rolleyes:
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Cool broken link.

Bro.

Take a pot shot at a cop while trespassing in a boat. Free him!

Thanks for mentioning that pathetic idiocy. His "bro" must be a *********** cretin.
 
Scotty Ladouche said:
"Anytime you've got a high-key event where there's lots of people, there's usually a ... unit from a civil support team in the area to provide assistance to first responders," Durr told Global Security Newswire by telephone. He declined to discuss specifics of how the 24th personnel provided assistance following the Monday attack.
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Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that among the specifics must be that you don't place such a support team at the point of highest risk of an actual event, like the finish line at a marathon.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that among the specifics must be that you don't place such a support team at the point of highest risk of an actual event, like the finish line at a marathon.
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Really?? That would be exactly where a unit that detects radiation/chemical/biological attacks would be placed if I was in charge, but I'm no rocket scientist. My brother is a physics professor, which is close I guess.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that among the specifics must be that you don't place such a support team at the point of highest risk of an actual event, like the finish line at a marathon.
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Have you got any historic data to show that the finish line of a marathon is a place of high risk? If there were such data it might of helped the poor woman who is horribly injured and has lost her child.
 
greybeard said:
Have you got any historic data to show that the finish line of a marathon is a place of high risk? If there were such data it might of helped the poor woman who is horribly injured and has lost her child.
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If your logic can come up with a potentially more risky place at a marathon, go ahead.
 
greybeard said:
Have you got any historic data to show that the finish line of a marathon is a place of high risk? If there were such data it might of helped the poor woman who is horribly injured and has lost her child.
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I heard the first winner crossed the finish line and promptly died!
 
Childlike Empress said:
If your logic can come up with a potentially more risky place at a marathon, go ahead.
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Rolls eyes.... Well, you 1. missed the point; 2. your idea that a security support team should not be located near a high risk area is laughable; 3. Assuming your point had an merit at all, The Start CE?

Your idea is indicative of the type of rock solid thinking we expect from a fan of CIT.

Thanks for posting
 
16.5 said:
I heard the first winner crossed the finish line and promptly died!
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Lets hope there was some support personnel to help him/her then, and they hadn't positioned them in the least risky position for health and safety reasons.
 
Purely speculation, but I would guess this team was at the start line until all the runners had been set loose, then moved to the finish line. Or there were separate teams at both.
 
Scotty Ladouche said:
Purely speculation, but I would guess this team was at the start line until all the runners had been set loose, then moved to the finish line. Or there were separate teams at both.
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Again, read your own quote: "there's usually a ... unit from a civil support team in the area to provide assistance to first responders". In the area. Assistance to first responders. Not first responding themselves. Worst-case scenario back-up. Seems clear from basic logic to me that they wouldn't be directly at hot spots. But anyway, that doesn't help one way or the other to determine anything about those people seen at the scene with certainty. Interesting posts anyway, welcome to the forum (and now stop shilling for the Craft, wouldya? ;)).
 
Childlike Empress said:
Again, read your own quote: "there's usually a ... unit from a civil support team in the area to provide assistance to first responders". In the area. Assistance to first responders. Not first responding themselves. Worst-case scenario back-up. Seems clear from basic logic to me that they wouldn't be directly at hot spots. But anyway, that doesn't help one way or the other to determine anything about those people seen at the scene with certainty. Interesting posts anyway, welcome to the forum (and now stop shilling for the Craft, wouldya? ;)).
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Nothing in your quote of my quote supports what you are saying, and I would argue that your 'basic logic' is not logic at all. They are definitely 'in the area' when there are first responders every 20 feet around them. Your interpretation of 'in the area' is not the same as mine.

As for the certainty of these men being CST, what evidence/proof/conjecture do you have that they are not CST, after reading my posts and supporting links. If the above is the best you've got, that's a really, really, really weak argument.

Bonus picture of the exact same SUV Suburban seen at the finish line, with a CST poster on the side of it.

://hermes.lssu.edu/~jshibley/Release%20Photos/LSSUSecConfComm0507.jpg

^ Please add http to the beginning of above link to make it work
 
Childlike Empress said:
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that among the specifics must be that you don't place such a support team at the point of highest risk of an actual event, like the finish line at a marathon.
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:rolleyes:

Maybe you should wear some fat letters on your uninformed back.
 
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