Explosion at the Boston Marathon.

zeggman said:
Big deal. So a couple of people got their 15 minutes of fame for something they didn't do. Maybe they'll be able to parlay that into a spot on Celebrity Apprentice, and maybe they won't. At the end of the day, they have an interesting story to tell, and were hardly more inconvenienced any more than the people who had to wait on the Amtrak train for over an hour because of a "suspicious package" in Burbank.
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Do you really not comprehend the difference between "I had to wait an hour on the train while the police checked out a possible bomb" and "My name and photograph were plastered all over the media calling me the one who planted the bombs that killed three people and injured 170 more"?
 
Myriad said:
Not only Boston but much of New England is shut down. Amtrak trains northbound in the northeast corridor are terminating in NYC. Stepdaughter who lives on in south shore MA is stuck in DC after a conference, waiting for trains to resume; may be coming here to Philly instead.
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Just got a email from a friend of mine in Massachusetts..a fellow Civil War Reenactor who also does The Revolutionary War..that they have put the reenactments to commomorate Lexington and Concord this weekend on hold.
 
Here in central Massachusetts things are pretty much normal. My wife, however, received a call early this morning that the university she works at in Cambridge will be closed until further notice.
 
Older brother traveled to Russia for 6 months. The search for the younger brother continues.
 
ANTPogo said:
Do you really not comprehend the difference between "I had to wait an hour on the train while the police checked out a possible bomb" and "My name and photograph were plastered all over the media calling me the one who planted the bombs that killed three people and injured 170 more"?
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The only name I've seen has been the name of the missing student. If the additional attention helps to find him, that can only be a good thing. FWIW, the Reddit section had a thread telling everybody to "leave the missing student alone".

The photographs which people speculated about did not have names attached; they were "Blue Robe Guy" and other labels. Considering that people who knew the actual suspects didn't leap to identify them when the FBI publicized their pictures, I doubt that any of the people profiled on Reddit suffered from anything other than a brief sliver of notoriety.
 
grunion said:
Watched an interview with their Aunt Maret from Toronto on the TV during lunch.

CNN Reporter: Are they devout, devout Muslims?

Lady looked at her like she was nuts.
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CNN seems to be begging for another Epic Jon Stewart Smackdown....
 
zeggman said:
Big deal. So a couple of people got their 15 minutes of fame for something they didn't do. Maybe they'll be able to parlay that into a spot on Celebrity Apprentice, and maybe they won't. At the end of the day, they have an interesting story to tell, and were hardly more inconvenienced any more than the people who had to wait on the Amtrak train for over an hour because of a "suspicious package" in Burbank.
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???
You mean the high school kid that's afraid to leave his house because morons on the internet take everything at face value, immediately? That's a bit more inconvenienced than waiting for a train. This kid is legitimately afraid for his life, for good reason.
 
zeggman said:
I'd think it would be a great day to be a newspaper, and an even greater day to be a weekly news magazine.

You have time to get the story right, develop background, report in-depth.

Of course, I grew up before Twitter. Maybe nobody cares for in-depth analysis any more except dinosaurs like me.
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Of course, nowadays, even weekly magazines have an online presence that happily takes part in the "news" spam. The website of SPIEGEL - what was once was, and in all fairness, occasionally still is, the pinnacle of investigative journalism in Germany - just informed me that "at least the policemen in Boston do not have to go hungry, since they ordered some Dunkin Donuts places to stay open".

a) who in the darkest sphincter of hell cares and
b) even if true, are those guys auto-stereotyping or what :eek:
 
zeggman said:
The only name I've seen has been the name of the missing student. If the additional attention helps to find him, that can only be a good thing. FWIW, the Reddit section had a thread telling everybody to "leave the missing student alone".
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Then maybe you need to shut up and not speak from ignorance. Just a friendly suggestion. :)

The photographs which people speculated about did not have names attached; they were "Blue Robe Guy" and other labels. Considering that people who knew the actual suspects didn't leap to identify them when the FBI publicized their pictures, I doubt that any of the people profiled on Reddit suffered from anything other than a brief sliver of notoriety.
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Awesome! So because Joe Ignorant on JREF doesn't know his name, he's good?

I wonder if any of the tens of thousands of the residents of his town know his name. I wonder if any of the kids he goes to school with know his name.

Unlikely, in your world?
 
zeggman said:
The only name I've seen has been the name of the missing student. If the additional attention helps to find him, that can only be a good thing. FWIW, the Reddit section had a thread telling everybody to "leave the missing student alone".
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I'm not talking about him.

The photographs which people speculated about did not have names attached; they were "Blue Robe Guy" and other labels.
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They most certainly did...people at reddit and other sites found the names of "Blue Robe Guy" and the Saudi student, and from there their Facebook pages, and spread them all over the internet, where the information was in turn publicized by the news media, and as a result they're well-known by both face and name now.

That's why "Blue Robe Guy" was told that the police considered him a "suspect" and is now terrified because his name and face are everywhere, and why the right-wing echo chamber is currently freaking out over the Saudi student to the point where Glenn Beck, on his radio show, has given the US Government a deadline of Monday for telling the TruthTM about that poor kid or he'll expose the "information" that's supposedly been gathered about the student.
 
A really good detective always remembers Sherlock Holmes rule about the dangers of forming theories with insufficent data.
 
NoahFence said:
???
You mean the high school kid that's afraid to leave his house because morons on the internet take everything at face value, immediately? That's a bit more inconvenienced than waiting for a train. This kid is legitimately afraid for his life, for good reason.
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He went to the police and cleared his name. The newspaper which published his picture printed a retraction. The posts on reddit which contained his picture have been deleted. Two suspects have been identified by the FBI, and neither of them are him.

If he's still in fear for his life, his fear is neither legitimate nor reasonable.
 
grunion said:
Watched an interview with their Aunt Maret from Toronto on the TV during lunch.

CNN Reporter: Are they devout, devout Muslims?

Lady looked at her like she was nuts.
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On the same topic: Most Muslims from the former Soviet Union aren't "devout", or rather they aren't practicing Muslims. This was generally true for Chechen's as well but after the Soviet Union started collapsing the economic and social conditions deteriorated rapidly there was an increase in radicalism in younger people.

After the dream of a independent and free Chechnya fell apart because of incredible corruption, organized crime, terrorism, poverty, lack of proper social services and the two bloody and brutal wars fought there Religious extremists got to become the mainstay of the "resistance". Most secular nationalists died, fled or joined the federal forces which in return gave them assistance and some form political power. This is contrasted with the Islamists Jihadists that not only got some domestic support but also got foreign support and troops from Afghanistan and other countries with sizable population of Islamists.

Currently most, if not all, active rebel or outright terrorist groups are of Islamist character. Chechnya is currently relatively peaceful although it is still a poor, corrupt, backwards ****hole run by a tyrant. Most terrorist activity is actually in Dagestan which is right besides Chechnya.
 
zeggman said:
He went to the police and cleared his name. The newspaper which published his picture printed a retraction. The posts on reddit which contained his picture have been deleted. Two suspects have been identified by the FBI, and neither of them are him.

If he's still in fear for his life, his fear is neither legitimate nor reasonable.
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Sigh. You don't get it.
 
zeggman said:
If he's still in fear for his life, his fear is neither legitimate nor reasonable.
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That's pretty easy for you to say, considering it's not your picture that was run on the front page of the Post implicating you in the bombing, and not your name that's out there as someone who might have been a suspect.
 
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