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Proof of Life After Death!!

It is precisely because of all the evidence that I believe in an afterlife.

Such as?

I'll add in my paranormal but really not story; Awhile before my father passed as a gag gift we got him a large electronic button toy(You press it and it says various funny things) he got a real kick out of it. Fast forward for the 1st week after his passing a few times after the button toy kept going off with no one pushing it.

The real world explanation? Upon examining the toy button I discovered the mechanism that makes it go off was extremely sensitive and require very little vibration to make it go off.
 
Pixel42 and other folks misunderstood my opinion on moral aspects of skepticism.

I did not say explicitly "skepticism is immoral" in all aspects.
I sustain the intrusion of skepticism in spiritual, religious and mystical human activities is not only prone to spread immorality but also a detour from the basic skeptic foundation.

Skepticism in scientific and technological work is vital. Those are the fields were skepticism contributes to reach earthly knowledge and understanding. Invasion of personal fields, like idealism, spiritualism, love, belief in things beyond proof, emotion and other internal activities is out of center.

From reading some of the thousands of posts I realize skeptics invariable claim for evidence and proof. It is logical to conclude evidence and proof possibilities are fundamental for skeptic thinking.
In other words: The realms of thought, where proof and evidence cannot be obtained and where the same skeptic thinkers cannot define the nature, characteristics and quality of the proof, are not suitable for skeptic discussion, because it is impossible to reach a state of proof or denial.

This means skeptic thinking applied to criticize beliefs in things beyond proof cause distorted perceptions and logical confusion.

One clear example of such confusion is:

Invariably, skeptics express ideas of God as a "punishing entity, mean, and unjust, which demands of humans a certain attitude or otherwise they will be punished with infernal treatment".

Even worse, skeptics constantly sustain, all societies with a religious foundation behave morally because such "fear of punishment".

This also connects with the topic in this thread: Life after Death.

It is true many religions sustain thoughts like those, mainly radical religions, but such creeds do not have a thing to do with the Reality of a Superior Consciousness and the progression of Consciousness through totally different realms and not only within this earthly realm.

True Christian thinking (I am NOT saying religion), as an example, is NOT based in promoting fear to an angry god or a horny devil. It is based on the spread of Love, Solidarity, Unselfishness, Compassion, Truth, Honesty, Sincerity, Devotion and Dedication.

Truly spiritually advanced persons can accomplish those goals without any spiritual guidance. Skeptics can enjoy those qualities as well, as long as they do not destroy them by intruding into others right-to-use their own beliefs to accomplish the same.

The immorality surges when the internal convictions are systematically attacked and ridiculed and if succeeding, destroying the seed of moral behavior. There it is when publicly spread skeptic notions seriously affect large sectors of the social body.

Skeptics also fail to understand there is no need to profess a religion to understand God, Life after Death and Spiritual values.

We could say, those skeptic thinkers who behave with total morality, exhibiting the attributes mentioned above, are actually understanding God, no matter they have replaced his name for "Inner Conviction" or a "native moral state".

Why then skeptics insist in spreading their points of view, using their slogan of "Freeing people from superstition, slavery and fear of death"?

There is a noticeable lack of Honesty when a person claims having "no fear for death". Fear of dying is innate. It is part of the survival instinct. Skeptics are really pretending to be super-humans, beyond natural instincts.

Skeptics also fail to perceive the obvious Order in the Universe. It is necessary to think, demand and accept total disorder to be able to deny a Superior Mind, because there can be no order without intelligence.

Skeptics cannot envision an ulterior purpose for human consciousness except to "enjoy your little time on earth, before you are totally annihilated".

Like getting on a plane, to fly for 10 hours thinking there is no destiny and the plane will land nowhere. (Which you actually don't know until you get there)

Life After Death, LAD, is the logical consequence of a World, whose primordial object is the creation, evolution towards expansion, and emancipation of Consciousness.

If skeptics "love" to thrive in a meaningless world, where nothing has a reason, where there is no ulterior purpose, where there is no order, and where there is an inevitable end.... Be my guests.

But intruding in others mental state, with the purpose of bringing the person down to such an arid state is immoral.

How can skeptics cause any confusion? Doesn't God always tell you the truth? Why doesn't a loving God always tell the truth to all his creations?

Don't you have a direct line to factual truth? Then how can there be confusion?

My life has the meaning I give it. My love for my planet, my love for my species, my love for the life on Earth, my love for my wife, my love for my children, my love for humanity.

For you do dismiss peoples love, my love, and the meaning we imbue, for our precious life, is tantamount to going against the Holy Spirit, for you.

Do you understand?
 
How about a direct answer to, Pixel42's question? Since you have to lie about answering it after avoiding it for so long I am going to assume that you can see how it exposes your argument.

I guess Pixel42 is the one entitled to request the answer. Maybe she already got it!
 
Missing the point again! Use right side of brain please!

You have the answer! It is within you. I know... You cannot see it!

Use right side of brain. Maybe some Corpus Callosum thinner?

I am a very open minded thinker. I can also recognise when someone is being dishonest with me as you have.
 
How can skeptics cause any confusion? Doesn't God always tell you the truth? Why doesn't a loving God always tell the truth to all his creations?

Don't you have a direct line to factual truth? Then how can there be confusion?

My life has the meaning I give it. My love for my planet, my love for my species, my love for the life on Earth, my love for my wife, my love for my children, my love for humanity.

For you do dismiss peoples love, my love, and the meaning we imbue, for our precious life, is tantamount to going against the Holy Spirit, for you.

Do you understand?

Yes! I understand....

Just PROVE me your love please! (Hey I am turning into a skeptic!!!!!)


P.S. Please point me to where I said "always".... Where did I say "God tells you"?
 
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Nope, still waiting.

Oh Yea!

Fell on my trap! You still reading eh?

I am sorry to say I lost the precise question. You do not use to repeat endlessly as other folks do. Would you kindly point me back to the question?

You can understand it is difficult for me to sway at so many bees trying to stick it to me!
 
Oh Yea!

Fell on my trap! You still reading eh?

I am sorry to say I lost the precise question. You do not use to repeat endlessly as other folks do. Would you kindly point me back to the question?

You can understand it is difficult for me to sway at so many bees trying to stick it to me!

Transparent lies.

ETA: You realize that people can go back and read what has been said, don't you?
 
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Liars are many here but not me!

IS this the question?

I ask again: if someone decided, after following the advice you have given to receive spiritual insight, that they were being told by God to commit mass murder how would you convince them they were wrong? Would you even try to convince them they were wrong?

Answer:

If someone says such stupidity I might think he need a shrink ASAP!
I might call 911!

One thing helping to understand Spiritual contact is: it NEVER would have to do anything with other things than, Love, Understanding, Compassion, Solidarity, Unselfishness, Trust, Happiness, Wisdom and Freedom.

Intellect is the one you can blame for instilling such destructive THOUGHTS. Ill intellectual machine.

A mind that "thinks to much" is the one prone to get such monstrous inspiration.

I suppose you get good inspiration most of the time, being a nice lady. When you get good inspiration, listed above, you are "listening" to the Higher Self. It does not matter how you call it.

If someone "listens" to the mean ideas you describe, he is "listening" to the lower self, call it devil, Satan, Chucky, etc.


Answered?
 
Yes! I understand....

Just PROVE me your love please! (Hey I am turning into a skeptic!!!!!)


My actions, prove my love.


P.S. Please point me to where I said "always".... Where did I say "God tells you"?

I do not understand what you are saying. Are you saying there is a 50/50 chance God will answer you? Are you saying also, God doesn't love me, so I am damned?
 
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I am sorry to say I lost the precise question. You do not use to repeat endlessly as other folks do. Would you kindly point me back to the question?

Here's the original question, which has been quoted by several other posters:

Let me put it this way. Suppose someone followed your advice precisely, and instead of receiving knowledge about life after death received instructions from God to demonstrate God's anger with a certain nation by flying a plane into one of its most important buildings. How would you go about persuading this person that that is not the right thing to do? You have already declared that the knowledge obtained in this manner is bound to be correct. There are no facts, no arguments that you can use to counter it because this person's belief was not obtained by facts or arguments. There is no test in reality for it.

One thing helping to understand Spiritual contact is: it NEVER would have to do anything with other things than, Love, Understanding, Compassion, Solidarity, Unselfishness, Trust, Happiness, Wisdom and Freedom.
How do you know that?

The person who thinks they've been told by God to carry out his righteous punishment has as good (or, a sceptic would say, as bad) a reason to believe it as you do to believe this.

If someone "listens" to the mean ideas you describe, he is "listening" to the lower self, call it devil, Satan, Chucky, etc.
They have as much reason to believe the message they're receiving is from God as you do to believe whatever insights you obtain in the same way.

Answered?
No.
 
Liars are many here but not me!

IS this the question?

I ask again: if someone decided, after following the advice you have given to receive spiritual insight, that they were being told by God to commit mass murder how would you convince them they were wrong? Would you even try to convince them they were wrong?

Answer:

If someone says such stupidity I might think he need a shrink ASAP!
I might call 911!

One thing helping to understand Spiritual contact is: it NEVER would have to do anything with other things than, Love, Understanding, Compassion, Solidarity, Unselfishness, Trust, Happiness, Wisdom and Freedom.

And how do you know this? Try to avoid the obvious tautological response if you can.


Intellect is the one you can blame for instilling such destructive THOUGHTS. Ill intellectual machine.

Sometimes, yes. But this is a red herring. Remember we are trying to show that personal experience alone is a reliable way of knowing.

A mind that "thinks to much" is the one prone to get such monstrous inspiration.

Doesn't appear true when we look at the biographies of our greatest thinkers in philosophy and science. Still, the same red herring.

I suppose you get good inspiration most of the time, being a nice lady. When you get good inspiration, listed above, you are "listening" to the Higher Self. It does not matter how you call it.

If someone "listens" to the mean ideas you describe, he is "listening" to the lower self, call it devil, Satan, Chucky, etc.


Answered?

I think you did answer the question but we are no closer to you demonstrating personal experience as a way of knowing.

ETA: I concede the points I called red herrings were not in the context of the question. It is a fairly coherent answer but lets address the problems and show me how this is a valid way of knowing about the world.
 
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My actions, prove my love.

I do not understand what you are saying. Are you saying there is a 50/50 chance God will answer you? Are you saying also, God doesn't love me, so I am damned?

I am not saying anything like that. Remove the blaming crystal from your eye.

I never said "God answers you"... Did I?

Actions can be done by interest, comfort, costume, social demand. If you see love as a cause for good actions then it is not Love. Love has no cause, no reason.

Using actions as proof of love is mainly a manifestation of the ego.

I know of people killing for love, jealous for love, selfish for love, hating for love.... Are those proofs of Love?

You cannot prove your Love. You only KNOW you feel it and you pour it.
 
And how do you know this? Try to avoid the obvious tautological response if you can.

Sometimes, yes. But this is a red herring. Remember we are trying to show that personal experience alone is a reliable way of knowing.

Doesn't appear true when we look at the biographies of our greatest thinkers in philosophy and science. Still, the same red herring.

I think you did answer the question but we are no closer to you demonstrating personal experience as a way of knowing.

First I never intended to "demonstrate" how personal experience is a way of knowing. Bu it is easy. Stick your finger in the power outlet. You will "know" by personal experience you should not do that.

How do you know great philosophers or scientists "did a lot of thinking"?
They just produced their ideas. Were they a product of a "lot" of thinking? I think genius is the ability of focusing great ideas with little thinking and a lot of intuition.
If you beleive it was "a lot of thinking" then.... prove it!
 
You cannot prove your Love. You only KNOW you feel it and you pour it.

I am sorry, I don't see it that way.

That is just something you read somewhere, or something.

Your actions show that you believe in a God of love, but that you yourself think people are stupid and blind.

Incredibly your told not to judge, as the judgement you judge, is actually a mirror of you.
 

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