Continuation: Discussion of the George Zimmerman case

[phonebook]

Sound reasoning. And it's not at all undercut by you assuming as fact unsubstantiated claims made by Zimmerman.

By that same token, I think Zimmerman tried to rape Martin.

I consider the allegations his cousin has made to be consistent with the idea.

Would it help explain why Zimmerman was sitting in his car watching a young boy and explain why Martin felt it necessary to punch him? I think so.

Strong evidence? Not at all. Sufficient to float the idea? In my estimation, yes.

The difference is, he was being honest, and you're being intentionally "disingenuous" (you seem to like that word).

 

[johnny karate]

The difference is, he was being honest, and you're being intentionally "disingenuous" (you seem to like that word).

The logic and train of thought are exactly the same.

Martin might have been burglarizing the neighborhood based on past allegations and certain behavorial cues.

Zimmerman might have been trying to rape Martin based on past allegations and certain behavorial cues.

 

[phonebook]

The logic and train of thought are exactly the same.

Martin might have been burglarizing the neighborhood based on past allegations and certain behavorial cues.

Zimmerman might have been trying to rape Martin based on past allegations and certain behavorial cues.

Ok, but you're still being disingenuous. You don't at all believe what you're saying.

 

[Skeptic Tank]

The logic and train of thought are exactly the same.

Martin might have been burglarizing the neighborhood based on past allegations and certain behavorial cues.

Zimmerman might have been trying to rape Martin based on past allegations and certain behavorial cues.

Zimmerman involved police.

 

[johnny karate]

Zimmerman involved police.

In his attempted rape?

 

[phonebook]

In his attempted rape?

No, he's pointing out an inconsistency in your logic, which of course you realize, but your disingenuous nature prevents you from addressing that appropriately.

 

[Skeptic Tank]

In his attempted rape?

He MAY have done some inappropriate touching of a minor while he himself was a similarly aged minor.

"Rapist" not found.

 

[12AX7]

Make that former mistress, he was still married to Alicia Martin.

Making Trayvon a guest of a guest.

Oh the horror. TM should definitely have not been in that neighborhood then.

 

[johnny karate]

No, he's pointing out an inconsistency in your logic, which of course you realize, but your disingenuous nature prevents you from addressing that appropriately.

There's no inconsistency. Some people have their sexual excitement heightened by the danger of being caught. If anything, it only further demonstrates Zimmerman's sexual deviance.

 

[phonebook]

There's no inconsistency. Some people have their sexual excitement heightened by the danger of being caught. If anything, it only further demonstrates Zimmerman's sexual deviance.

Uh huh... you're inching dangerously close to "proven liar" territory... beware.

 

[johnny karate]

He MAY have done some inappropriate touching of a minor while he himself was a similarly aged minor.

"Rapist" not found.

Martin MAY have had some stolen items in his possesion.

"Burglar" not found.

 

[phonebook]

I'm curious about something: Are you guys familiar with the segment in the NEN call where it appears that Trayvon can be heard in the background of the call, very briefly, presumably attempting to say something to GZ? What are your thoughts on that?

Anyone?

 

[johnny karate]

Uh huh... you're inching dangerously close to "proven liar" territory... beware.

Has Zimmerman's attempt to rape Martin been conclusively ruled out?

 

[Unabogie]

He MAY have done some inappropriate touching of a minor while he himself was a similarly aged minor.

"Rapist" not found.

That's a lie.

It continued for more than a decade until they were both adults. And his act of rape is exactly the same as the Ohio football players who just got convicted.

The woman, identified in various reports and in taped interviews with investigators as witness 9, said that from the age of six to 19 Zimmerman repeatedly fondled her, at times penetrating her vagina with his finger.

So yes, it was rape, and yes it was done as an adult as well as when he was a minor. Care to revise what you wrote there?

 

[AlBell]

Who had the gun, who got out of his truck,

True so far as facts indicate.

who did the following?

Unknown in that TM's movements are not documented, and he had plenty of time to just go home.

Z was the one pushing to a confrontation.

TT's belief anyway, not well substantiated by evidence I've seen.


ps. As to GZ hunting, strange he would hunt so close to home, and call to make sure cops were on the way.

Whatever.

 

[tsig]

He MAY have done some inappropriate touching of a minor while he himself was a similarly aged minor.

"Rapist" not found.

So we know he likes minors and Martin was a minor, I think the case for rape is all but proved.

 

[tsig]

Uh huh... you're inching dangerously close to "proven liar" territory... beware.

Beware??

 

[tsig]

Has Zimmerman's attempt to rape Martin been conclusively ruled out?

Well Z seemed fascinated by Martins hands around his pants showing prurient interest.

 

[Mumbles]

Zimmerman involved police.

So did Raul Rodriguez.

 

[Mumbles]

The logic and train of thought are exactly the same.

Martin might have been burglarizing the neighborhood based on past allegations and certain behavorial cues.

Zimmerman might have been trying to rape Martin based on past allegations and certain behavorial cues.

Actually, the claim against Zimmerman is stronger than the claim against Martin. Nobody has come forward with a claim that they were robbed by Martin (nor that they were attacked by him), while Zimmerman's cousin has accused him of sexually assaulting her.