Evidence that substantiates ANYTHING that happened in the Bible.

[halleyscomet]

I'm still waiting to find out why bad things happen to good people. Does this occur when god gets drunk, Janandele?

We're being punished for our sins in the pre-existance of course!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormonism

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/opinion/sunday/racism-and-the-mormon-church.html?_r=0

 

[tsig]

Of course... mockers be warned and repent. The Lord will not always stay His hand against the purposes of the wicked.

God hates birds?

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/northern_mockingbird/id

 

[tsig]

Of course... mockers be warned and repent. The Lord will not always stay His hand against the purposes of the wicked.

Why would he be staying his hand to begin with?

 

[Empress]

Why would he be staying his hand to begin with?

It's nailed to the cross?

 

[carlitos]

Of course... mockers be warned and repent. The Lord will not always stay His hand against the purposes of the wicked.

 

[Sabretooth]

Of course... mockers be warned and repent. The Lord will not always stay His hand against the purposes of the wicked.

He wants us to believe in Him without evidence, or else He'll get really mad? Isnt that what Truthers do?


Sorry, but the idea of a spiteful God is not something I'm OK with. That would mean He is no better than the people He claims to have created.

 

[tsig]

It's nailed to the cross?

 

[TimCallahan]

Originally Posted by TimCallahan
... According to 2 Kgs. 19:35 the "angel of the LORD (i.e. YHWH)" annihilated the Assyrian army of King Sennacherib, 185,000 strong, in a single night. Do you believe this to be true?



The Assyrian way of dealing with its neighbors was to terrify them into submission, either by the threat of force or its application. Being pitiless does influence people - if you have the power back up such a policy. The problem with such a policy is that, the moment you falter, your enemies will attack from all sides. This is, in fact, what happened to the Assyrian Empire after the death of Ashurbanipul. Thus, the empire went from the zenith of its power to absolute destruction in a very short time.

Had an Assyrian army of 185,000 been annihilated to the last man, Assyria's power would have been greatly weakened, and her enemies would have attacked. However, Assyrian power did not falter under Sennacherib, nor under the rule of his son Essarhaddon, nor under the reign of his grandson Ashurbanipul. So, how do you explain the continued expansion of Assyrian power after Sennacherib's siege of Jerusalem if he lost an entire army of 185,000 men?

Janadele: I'm still waiting for an answer to the hilited question.

 

[Elizabeth I]

And never the twain shall meet.

[qimg]http://www.yvonneclaireadams.com/HostedStuff/Vegemite.jpg[/qimg]​

Srsly?I mean, srsly?

 

[The Norseman]

Vegemite is the Australian one.

Pfft. Whateva. Y'all talk funny to me anyhow.

 

[TimCallahan]

Originally Posted by TimCallahan
Originally Posted by TimCallahan
... According to 2 Kgs. 19:35 the "angel of the LORD (i.e. YHWH)" annihilated the Assyrian army of King Sennacherib, 185,000 strong, in a single night. Do you believe this to be true?



The Assyrian way of dealing with its neighbors was to terrify them into submission, either by the threat of force or its application. Being pitiless does influence people - if you have the power back up such a policy. The problem with such a policy is that, the moment you falter, your enemies will attack from all sides. This is, in fact, what happened to the Assyrian Empire after the death of Ashurbanipul. Thus, the empire went from the zenith of its power to absolute destruction in a very short time.

Had an Assyrian army of 185,000 been annihilated to the last man, Assyria's power would have been greatly weakened, and her enemies would have attacked. However, Assyrian power did not falter under Sennacherib, nor under the rule of his son Essarhaddon, nor under the reign of his grandson Ashurbanipul. So, how do you explain the continued expansion of Assyrian power after Sennacherib's siege of Jerusalem if he lost an entire army of 185,000 men?

Janadele: I'm still waiting for an answer to the hilited question.

Still waiting.

 

[halleyscomet]

Originally Posted by TimCallahan
Originally Posted by TimCallahan
... According to 2 Kgs. 19:35 the "angel of the LORD (i.e. YHWH)" annihilated the Assyrian army of King Sennacherib, 185,000 strong, in a single night. Do you believe this to be true?



The Assyrian way of dealing with its neighbors was to terrify them into submission, either by the threat of force or its application. Being pitiless does influence people - if you have the power back up such a policy. The problem with such a policy is that, the moment you falter, your enemies will attack from all sides. This is, in fact, what happened to the Assyrian Empire after the death of Ashurbanipul. Thus, the empire went from the zenith of its power to absolute destruction in a very short time.

Had an Assyrian army of 185,000 been annihilated to the last man, Assyria's power would have been greatly weakened, and her enemies would have attacked. However, Assyrian power did not falter under Sennacherib, nor under the rule of his son Essarhaddon, nor under the reign of his grandson Ashurbanipul. So, how do you explain the continued expansion of Assyrian power after Sennacherib's siege of Jerusalem if he lost an entire army of 185,000 men?


Still waiting.

Good luck with that.

 

[halleyscomet]

http://www.cracked.com/article_20255_5-shocking-scenes-you-wont-believe-are-in-bible.html

 

[TimCallahan]

I'm going to assume, since she (?) hasn't answered my question about the continued growth of Assyrian power following Sennacherib's siege of Jerusalem, that Janadele doesn't have an any answer to give.

Sennacherib's devastation of Judah is documented not only by archaeology, but as well in Isaiah's description of the kingdom (Is. 1:7 - 9):

Your country lies desolate,
your cities are burned with fire;
in your very presence
aliens devour our land;
it is desolate, as overthrown by aliens.
And the daughter of Zion is left
like a booth in a vineyard,
like a lodge in a cucumber field,
like a besieged city.
If the LORD [i.e. YHWH] of hosts
had not left us a few survivors,
we should have been like Sodom
and become like Gomorrah.

This fits very well with what we know of Sennacherib's destruction of Judah. He seems to have leveled practically every city there but Jerusalem.

Now, let's look at the spin -doctoring in the version of the story in 2 Chronicles (2 Chron. 32:22, 23):

So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib, king of Assyria and from the hand of all his enemies and gave them rest on every side. And many brought gifts to the LORD in Jerusalem and precious thing to Hezekiah king of Judah, so that he was exalted in the sight of all nations from that time onward.

Of course, this is absolute nonsense. Hezekiah barely escaped with a fragment of his original, already small, kingdom, essentially a city-state centered on Jerusalem.

 

[RoboTimbo]

DOC, now that you've had a chance to look at the two creation accounts objectively, have you seen some evidence that they are contradictory?

Isn't there some law about non-contradiction?

DOC, why have you run away from another thread without answering questions?

 

[pakeha]

No marmite. Coarse ground pepper, fresh garlic minced, some white wine and a little chilli powder. Use what is left for a base for sauce. Cooks up a treat. ...

That sounds like a decent base for a sauce, but it's lacking something...

Hey, pakeha,...But ya gotta just lay off the Marmite thing. I understand it's like an Aussie thing, but it's... weird.

Weird? Marmite is weird?

THIS is weird


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I'm going to assume, since she (?) hasn't answered my question about the continued growth of Assyrian power following Sennacherib's siege of Jerusalem, that Janadele doesn't have an any answer to give.

Sennacherib's devastation of Judah is documented not only by archaeology, but as well in Isaiah's description of the kingdom (Is. 1:7 - 9):

Your country lies desolate,
your cities are burned with fire;
in your very presence
aliens devour our land;
it is desolate, as overthrown by aliens.
And the daughter of Zion is left
like a booth in a vineyard,
like a lodge in a cucumber field,
like a besieged city.
If the LORD [i.e. YHWH] of hosts
had not left us a few survivors,
we should have been like Sodom
and become like Gomorrah.

This fits very well with what we know of Sennacherib's destruction of Judah. He seems to have leveled practically every city there but Jerusalem.

Now, let's look at the spin -doctoring in the version of the story in 2 Chronicles (2 Chron. 32:22, 23):

So the LORD saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib, king of Assyria and from the hand of all his enemies and gave them rest on every side. And many brought gifts to the LORD in Jerusalem and precious thing to Hezekiah king of Judah, so that he was exalted in the sight of all nations from that time onward.

Of course, this is absolute nonsense. Hezekiah barely escaped with a fragment of his original, already small, kingdom, essentially a city-state centered on Jerusalem.

Hi, TimCallahan.
Is that account from Smith's ah translation of Isaiah?

 

[TimCallahan]

. . . (snip) . . . Hi, TimCallahan.
Is that account from Smith's ah translation of Isaiah?

No, it's from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible. Perhaps Janadale can give us Smith's version.

 

[halleyscomet]

It looks like there may be some actual evidence of the Genesis account, specifically the fact that Adam and Eve's kids would have been marrying each other.

Inbreeding common in early humans, deformed skull suggests

 

[X]

It looks like there may be some actual evidence of the Genesis account, specifically the fact that Adam and Eve's kids would have been marrying each other.

Inbreeding common in early humans, deformed skull suggests

[qimg]http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/fn2/feeds/LiveScience/660/371/hum-skull-fossil.jpg?ve=1[/qimg]

And among certain societal classes such as nobility.
Making a connection between that and Genesis is, to put it mildly, a MASSIVE stretch.

ETA: Not that that will stop such organizations as AiG and Disc. Inst. and their ilk, I suspect.

 

[halleyscomet]

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