OntarioSquatch
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Assuming that the PGF never happened, I would say it either means that Bigfoot is some sort of elusive species or that Bigfoot is not real.
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LTC8K6
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The PGF happened like King Kong happened.
Night Walker
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Poor Wally got taken advantage of. He paid for the DNA testing of many samples. Samples that probably aren't from Bigfoot. I suspect that for Dr. Ketchum, the past few years have been about ripping off bleevers. It's become a sad state of affairs. But like Dr. Meldrum recently said in an interview, we need to move on. Move on and buy his new Sasquatch field guide.
Yeah - Meldrum moved on from his failed Bigfoot Blimp project by pocketing $10K+ and sending the investors some junk merchandise instead of refunding their money. A class act...
That is such a serious accusation that you probably ought to cite some evidence in support of it.
Yeah, I noticed some retroPGF posting on that place over yonder trying to shore up the sagging bigfoot faithful I guess.
Out of focus monkey man suit to the rescue.
ETA: Hey, in that other Sykes thread over yonder you once again typed "we're lucky to have him." Now, did you mean you guys are lucky to have Sykes looking into the alleged footie DNA samples, or did you mean he is in the footer camp?
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Night Walker
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$11,865 pledged of $355,000 goal
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Funding Unsuccessful This project reached the deadline without achieving its funding goal on January 25.
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Signed reprint of the ichnotaxonomy of sasquatch footprints paper
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Glossy print of 3D scan of a cast from the P-G film site
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DVD of Dr. Meldrum’s talk at the Pocatello Bigfoot Rendezvous
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Cast of knuckle prints
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Invitation to join the team for 1 week in the field.
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Choose from any of the above + a framed image from the first contact
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LTC8K6
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Looks like they were giving that junk out anyway.
Image from the first contact? Obviously not, since the project flopped.
Pledges might be returned since at least two of the items cannot be delivered.
Time to call the Sugar Daddy for funds?
Image from the first contact? Obviously not, since the project flopped.
Pledges might be returned since at least two of the items cannot be delivered.
Time to call the Sugar Daddy for funds?
Klimax
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Kickstarter doesn't transfer funds if goal is not reached, therefore nobody could keep money from pledges.
See:
http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/kickstarter basics?ref=nav
See:
http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/kickstarter basics?ref=nav
LTC8K6
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Yeah, I was wondering how the $10K pledge could receive an image from The Falcon Project when the project doesn't exist...
Then again, there weren't going to be any images anyway...
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OntarioSquatch
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Meldrum and William Barnes recently went and found another blimp that is already built and ready to go. I remember he said they got it as a donation or something and that they are aiming to try it out in June.
I'm pretty sure the donations that were pledged through Kickstarter were refunded because someone on the BFF who donated money to the project got it back a while ago.
I'm pretty sure the donations that were pledged through Kickstarter were refunded because someone on the BFF who donated money to the project got it back a while ago.
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Blimpsquatch!
BTW: In post 1346 I asked you what you meant by "we're lucky to have him" when referring to Sykes. So, what do you mean?
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OntarioSquatch
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I think we're lucky to have a great scientist like Bryan Sykes look at alleged Bigfoot DNA samples.
Thanks for the clarification.
Night Walker
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I stand corrected...
HarryHenderson
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It's funny, you're only 'pretty sure' and yet most of us are way past that on approach to absolutely sure. That's because the post above yours was posted almost an hour and a half ahead of yours (and only one post away) and since I'll bet most people read 'first unread post' first - or at least they should - they likely learned about Kickstarter's actual pledge policy in that post. Like you would have had you...
All that just to point out to the rest of the natives here that no matter their sincerity, they really have a zero chance of ever 'converting' you into seeing Bigfoot's reality. With your minor miscue above only confirming it, I do not and have not ever believed your participation here was as a humble Bigfoot fan and fact-finder 'just trying to figure it all out'. I'm not calling you names, just saying you're pretending. That is, you're a dedicated Bigfoot bleever/seeker/apologist who exists in the vacuum that is you seeing only what you wanna see and hearing only what you wanna hear. Even your response above was pro Bigfoot given the BFF reference. I mean, over there the Bigfoot fantasy isn't just a discussion, it's a way of life.
Seriously, I'll bet real money there's nothing any of your forum peers here could say or do, and maybe only a teensy tiny bit more 'modern science' could say or do that would ever convince you there is no Bigfoot.
Whatever the case, HONESTY is always the best policy.
P.S. In the interest of 'honesty', I too have a severe case of 'selective attention' towards the subject. But I'm also a non-bleever and I state it. I can miss the next 6 years of Popular Bigfooting and yet not miss even a single truth related to the existence of a real beast. Unlike bleevers, there is no cosmic requirement for my ilk to learn or prove anything about a non-existent non-beast.
OntarioSquatch
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Yes, but I've already read weeks ago that the money got refunded. I don't see what you're trying to say here other than that I figured it out from you guys and lied that I already knew about it. Which is not the case. I have absolutely nothing to gain from such a thing.
Are you saying that most of you here already "know" the reality behind Bigfoot? Lol. That's quite a claim and it's not something that I agree with.
I come here mostly for humour and discussion, not to be a pretend skeptic or "fact finder". I also come here because I'm not happy with a lot of the stuff in Bigfootery. That's really all there is.
That's true. My stance on the Bigfoot's existence and the PGF is nearly 100% firm. I'm sure you guys know that. I'm not trying to make it seem like something else here. If it seems that way, it's probably because of why I come here in the first place.
Yup, just please make sure the person you're accusing of dishonesty really is being dishonest.
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You made an accusation that amounted to either fraud or theft. I would expect to see an apology to Dr Meldrum rather than just "I stand corrected".
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Hey MikeG...
How about Meldrum apologizing to the world for incredibly bad science, intellectual dishonesty and outright fraud?
The fact that a well paid Meldrum took part in the filming of the Snelgrove lake incident and went along with the fraudulent stories and fake DNA science from that episode puts him right in the fraud category. It's not bad judgement as he played along and has never apologized for his participation in all the lying that went on.
Selling plaster casts as "authentic" when many of those prints are unerringly disputed is also fraud.
He knows it. We know it.
Meldrum is a fraud.
Time to catch up to the reality that has been discussed for years here MikeG.
How about Meldrum apologizing to the world for incredibly bad science, intellectual dishonesty and outright fraud?
The fact that a well paid Meldrum took part in the filming of the Snelgrove lake incident and went along with the fraudulent stories and fake DNA science from that episode puts him right in the fraud category. It's not bad judgement as he played along and has never apologized for his participation in all the lying that went on.
Selling plaster casts as "authentic" when many of those prints are unerringly disputed is also fraud.
He knows it. We know it.
Meldrum is a fraud.
Time to catch up to the reality that has been discussed for years here MikeG.
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If you guys have better "reality" than the PGF, fuzzy YouTube videos and myriad other hoaxes from footie in a cooler to braided horse manes, you might want to trot it out now, given the three recent debacles.
I'm thinking a type specimen would be nice; maybe one of those folks at TBRC might take some target practice. Maybe one of those habituators might give up one of their pets for the advancement of science.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that however; you'll turn all purple and ****.
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