The Australian "custody sisters"

[DreamingNaiad]

Why does delaying their departure help? You are basically saying the kids should be taken by suprise so the media isn't there. They will still fight with the police and holding them prisoner away from their parents for a short while isn't going to be helpful.

So yes it is dumb and unrealistic.

I'm pretty sure holding someone prisoner means unlawfully detaining them. With a court order it would be lawful. Just as dragging them off against their will wasn't kidnapping or abduction because of the court order.

And iirc several posters here have suggested they only played up because the media were there, so perhaps without them things would have calmed down quicker.

 

[ponderingturtle]

I'm pretty sure holding someone prisoner means unlawfully detaining them. With a court order it would be lawful. Just as dragging them off against their will wasn't kidnapping or abduction because of the court order.

And iirc several posters here have suggested they only played up because the media were there, so perhaps without them things would have calmed down quicker.

So prison breaks don't involve prisoners as they are lawfully detained?

Kidnapping and abduction have an unlawfull component but prisoners can be lawful or not.

 

[DreamingNaiad]

So prison breaks don't involve prisoners as they are lawfully detained?

Kidnapping and abduction have an unlawfull component but prisoners can be lawful or not.

You're right. Looked it up and the definition seems to be along the lines of "someone deprived of their liberty or held against their will". Which happened to these girls anyway when the police took them. Taking a few days to calm them down, perhaps flying the father in to talk to them (it's the least the Aussie government could do since their embassy was involved in this mess) couldn't hurt.

 

[joesixpack]

Why does delaying their departure help? You are basically saying the kids should be taken by suprise so the media isn't there. They will still fight with the police and holding them prisoner away from their parents for a short while isn't going to be helpful.

So yes it is dumb and unrealistic.

Actually, they were only fighting when the press were present. By all accounts they were calm and compliant when the press were absent.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Actually, they were only fighting when the press were present. By all accounts they were calm and compliant when the press were absent.

So the warnings and notification was the problem? I guess they don't need their stuff.

And yet somehow despite her causing this it is still an endorsement of the mother.

 

[joesixpack]

So the warnings and notification was the problem? I guess they don't need their stuff.

And yet somehow despite her causing this it is still an endorsement of the mother.

I'm sorry, I can't make heads or tails of this. Are you suggesting that I'm supporting the mother?

 

[ponderingturtle]

I'm sorry, I can't make heads or tails of this. Are you suggesting that I'm supporting the mother?

You are trying to give her what she is after.

 

[joesixpack]

You are trying to give her what she is after.

I'm trying to take the kids away from her. Have you read a single one of my posts on this thread?