Julian Assange: rapist or not?

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Skeptic Ginger said:
No it is not equally reasonable.

I ask you the same question I asked Sabrina, why would you think Assange was immune from what the US is known to have done to other people, specifically, extraordinary rendition, imprisoning and torturing at least 2 innocent people, and their treatment of Bradley Manning?
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Because it's unlikely either England or Sweden would cooperate.

Where do you think he would be take to? What country would accept the "extraordinary rendition" of Assange?

Skeptic Ginger said:
So the person who Manning used to disseminate the information deemed a threat to national security is of no concern to the US?
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What Manning did was actual treason. Assange did not commit treason by accepting the information. I'm sure many people in the US government and military are not at all happy with Assange, but he didn't do anything illegal.
 
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Zeuzzz said:
Can you quote the exact nature of the crime. Not the words or the charge, but the exact sexual act that has deemed him, in your eyes, a 'sociopathic sex offender'.

The name of the woman involved would be great too.

Thanks.
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Zeuzzz said:
The question a few posts above this one.




Probably the most relevant post to the OP on this entire page.
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I must have missed it because I was looking for question marks.

Already answered by the way, and why do you think it's relevant, let alone the most relevant? Make an actual argument now please.
 
Mycroft said:
The question isn't sending him to jail, it's sending him to an interview with the police, which may lead to a trial.
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To be clear, he's wanted for charging, prior to which he must be arrested and given the opportunity to respond in an interview. (just trying to smack one of those Zombie facts, not disagreeing with you Mycroft)
 
Mycroft said:
Which is often the case in rape.

In this case we have a little more than just "she said" on their part. We have corroboration of similar behaviors among different women, and conformation of his impregnation fetish.
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Where exactly can one find verifiable evidence that Assange has an impregnation fetish? You realize that this "confirmation" is nothing more than an allegation of a comment he made. It may or may not even be true that he made that statement. If he did make such a comment, what is the context of a statement like that? Was he being serious or sarcastic? My point is, anyone can accuse anyone else of making a particular statement, especially if no one else was around to witness it. If several people were present and witnessed it, maybe it would be more credible but in this case it really is just one person's word against another. Sometimes rumors are just baseless rumors.
 
Silhouette said:
Where exactly can one find verifiable evidence that Assange has an impregnation fetish?
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Here's a better question. What the hell is wrong with your version of Google?

I already addressed your little dodge. And I asked a serious question. Look at how many people risked their privacy and reputations going on the record and complaining about these statements. You really want use to believe that that many people made it up on the behest of the CIA or what? And plus how many people are staying silent when suddenly anyone who makes that statement is now a target by the internet bozos around the world looking for cia connections in the group calling him a creep? No, logically, it is you that should be answering questions. Why would they all make it up, why are there so many of them? Shift, dodge, fabricate. It's how he operates, and it's why Khan and the doc maker Gibney realized he was lying about Sweeden.

Oh well the cult is dead now only ineffectual true believers left, all that is left now is the laughter.
 
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nathan said:
here you go:

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&scli...44,d.d2k&fp=d14bc0e67d0d6d13&biw=1077&bih=655
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From the Daily Mail:

The 40-year-old is said to have told his alleged victim in Stockholm: 'Sweden is a good country to have kids in.'

The Australian is accused of saying he 'wanted to impregnate women' and that he 'preferred virgins because he would be the first to impregnate them'.
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Without any context for these alleged statements, who knows if he was serious or joking? It's pretty absurd to think he would intentionally make himself financially and legally liable to the offspring of women that he barely knows just for the hell of it, especially considering the multiple lawsuits and financial problems he seems to be having. I'm not sure what the law is like in other countries regarding child support, but in the U.S. a person is liable for 18 years (when a child becomes an adult). It's one thing to fantasize about impregnating virgins and another to make it one's mission in life. I remain skeptical.
 
Silhouette said:
I actually agree with you about this.
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The difficulty lies in actually GETTING Assange to said court of law.

It is entirely possible that the court will find no grounds to charge him with any type of forcible sexual contact with the two women in question. Assange has been big on proclaiming his innocence; if he's so innocent, why is he not willing to subject himself to the judicial process? His paranoia about the US cannot be the only reason; it makes one wonder exactly why he's so het up about appearing in Sweden for the purposes of determining whether or not he can even be charged.
 
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Silhouette said:
Without any context for these alleged statements, who knows if he was serious or joking? It's pretty absurd to think he would intentionally make himself financially and legally liable to the offspring of women that he barely knows just for the hell of it, especially considering the multiple lawsuits and financial problems he seems to be having. I'm not sure what the law is like in other countries regarding child support, but in the U.S. a person is liable for 18 years (when a child becomes an adult). It's one thing to fantasize about impregnating virgins and another to make it one's mission in life. I remain skeptical.
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Considering the troubles that the New Zealand Government has getting Child Support from dead-beat fathers who have only skipped across the Tasman, I seriously doubt the ability to prosecute for child support a dead-beat dad that basically has no fixed abode Internationally.
 
BenBurch said:
His supporters use that as some sort of "gotcha" - pretending that they don't know that procedure there is different and hoping that the rest of us are too simple to see through their lies.
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What lies?

I think that the vast majority of the world, pretty much anyone not in a position of political or economic powder, supports Assange.

You know what the main lies in the case of Assange are?

The thousands he uncovered and released to a world that desperately needed them.

Not really ever met a single person with half a brain on them who does not support Assange and his actions.
 
Zeuzzz said:
What lies?

I think that the vast majority of the world, pretty much anyone not in a position of political or economic powder, supports Assange.

You know what the main lies in the case of Assange are?

The thousands he uncovered and released to a world that desperately needed them.

Not really ever met a single person with half a brain on them who does not support Assange and his actions.
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Do you know a lot of people with half a brain?
 
tyr_13 said:
I must have missed it because I was looking for question marks.

Already answered by the way, and why do you think it's relevant, let alone the most relevant? Make an actual argument now please.
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Remember this?
 
Zeuzzz said:
What lies?

I think that the vast majority of the world, pretty much anyone not in a position of political or economic powder, supports Assange.

You know what the main lies in the case of Assange are?

The thousands he uncovered and released to a world that desperately needed them.

Not really ever met a single person with half a brain on them who does not support Assange and his actions.
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You also seem to believe anyone with half a brain knows 9/11 was an inside job and the "Holocaust" was a hoax, so...
 
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