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JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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Mr Prey your withnesses have been shown to be nothing of the kind, now provide some real evidence.
 
Robert Prey said:
Interesting math. So Jay has 40??? But can't name one???
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I know. It's exactly like it is not the name of the witness that matters but the contet of their statements. I mean the maths is interesting. You name 40 witness and yet have zero points when they are show not to support and possibly contradict your own claims. Yet Jay has named zero witnesses and STILL managed to show nearly forty support the conclusions drawn from the autopsy.

Those you name who can be shown to contradict you count against you. Obviously.
 
Magic?

All I see is a failure to understand the trauma wounds described in the investigation and the ballistics involved.

What I do see is a complete lack of evidence for a shooter on the grassy knoll. Unless his bullets could perform a Uturn. Which would be magic.
 
I also see a failure to understand that the shots made by Oswald can be made in the time frame of the Zapruder film. I've tried it before, as have others here, and it can be done. The Carcano 91/38 is not a bad gun at all, and Robert's failure to acknowledge what can actually happen with a bullet once it hits something like a body can occur shows a big lack of understanding.

As to a shooter on the grassy knoll and the mysterious smoke reported, what the hell was this second shooter using? I've never encountered smoke after shooting any cartridged round. Smokeless powder (and cordite) has been the order of the day for decades. The only time I've seen smoke is watching re-enactors with black powder muskets.
 
Straw Man said:
I also see a failure to understand that the shots made by Oswald can be made in the time frame of the Zapruder film. I've tried it before, as have others here, and it can be done. The Carcano 91/38 is not a bad gun at all, and Robert's failure to acknowledge what can actually happen with a bullet once it hits something like a body can occur shows a big lack of understanding.

As to a shooter on the grassy knoll and the mysterious smoke reported, what the hell was this second shooter using? I've never encountered smoke after shooting any cartridged round. Smokeless powder (and cordite) has been the order of the day for decades. The only time I've seen smoke is watching re-enactors with black powder muskets.
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Robert's theory is that they were using Daniel Boone's long rifle.

Obviously.
 
I admire Rodney Stich and the work he has done for decades interviewing former government operatives. And I have always thought there was a lot of truth in the following passage:

[From Defrauding America, Rodney Stich, 3rd edition 1998 p. 638-639]:

“The Role of deep-cover CIA officer, Trenton Parker, has been described in earlier pages, and his function in the CIA's counter-intelligence unit, Pegasus. Parker had stated to me earlier that a CIA faction was responsible for the murder of JFK … During an August 21, 1993, conversation, in response to my questions, Parker said that his Pegasus group had tape recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy. I asked him, "What group were these tapes identifying?" Parker replied: "Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, Johnson of Texas, George Bush, and J. Edgar Hoover." I asked, "What was the nature of the conversation on these tapes?"

I don't have the tapes now, because all the tape recordings were turned over to [Congressman] Larry McDonald. But I listened to the tape recordings and there were conversations between Rockefeller, [J. Edgar] Hoover, where [Nelson] Rockefeller asks, "Are we going to have any problems?" And he said, "No, we aren't going to have any problems. I checked with Dulles. If they do their job we'll do our job." There are a whole bunch of tapes, because Hoover didn't realize that his phone has been tapped. [Defrauding America, Rodney Stich, 3rd edition p. 638-639]
 
Robert Morrow said:
I admire Rodney Stich and the work he has done for decades interviewing former government operatives. And I have always thought there was a lot of truth in the following passage:

[From Defrauding America, Rodney Stich, 3rd edition 1998 p. 638-639]:

“The Role of deep-cover CIA officer, Trenton Parker, has been described in earlier pages, and his function in the CIA's counter-intelligence unit, Pegasus. Parker had stated to me earlier that a CIA faction was responsible for the murder of JFK … During an August 21, 1993, conversation, in response to my questions, Parker said that his Pegasus group had tape recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy. I asked him, "What group were these tapes identifying?" Parker replied: "Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, Johnson of Texas, George Bush, and J. Edgar Hoover." I asked, "What was the nature of the conversation on these tapes?"

I don't have the tapes now, because all the tape recordings were turned over to [Congressman] Larry McDonald. But I listened to the tape recordings and there were conversations between Rockefeller, [J. Edgar] Hoover, where [Nelson] Rockefeller asks, "Are we going to have any problems?" And he said, "No, we aren't going to have any problems. I checked with Dulles. If they do their job we'll do our job." There are a whole bunch of tapes, because Hoover didn't realize that his phone has been tapped. [Defrauding America, Rodney Stich, 3rd edition p. 638-639]
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Uh huh. So no tapes then. They must have been with McDonald on KAL 007 when it was shot down by the Soviets. Or something. I've heard Stich also has some beach front property for sale in Arizona. You might want to look into that Robert M.
 
Wow. More baseless speculation. I guess it is better that the other robert's stuff, though. It is not strictly speaking impossible that LHO was working for the CIA when he murdered two people.
 
I believe the tapes were transported by the captured UFO from Roswell to the secret Nazi base in Antarctica. They are currently in the care of Elvis Presley in the NWO hollowed out volcano.
 
Straw Man said:
I believe the tapes were transported by the captured UFO from Roswell to the secret Nazi base in Antarctica. They are currently in the care of Elvis Presley in the NWO hollowed out volcano.
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Classic waste of internet bandwidth by a straw man argument.

Is that all you can bring to the table?
 
Straw Man said:
I also see a failure to understand that the shots made by Oswald can be made in the time frame of the Zapruder film. I've tried it before, as have others here, and it can be done.

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Can you make 4 aimed shots in 6 to 8 seconds from two different locations???
 
Robert Prey said:
Can you make 4 aimed shots in 6 to 8 seconds from two different locations???
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How about three aimed shots in 6-8 seconds with the first bullet already chambered? Sight-BANG!-chamber a round-aim-BANG!-chamber a round-aim-BANG!
 
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The three shots were from three different locations as the Earth continued on its merry way.
 
Robert Prey said:
Can you make 4 aimed shots in 6 to 8 seconds from two different locations???
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Anyone can make 3 shots, change their location 1/8 inch and miss one of the shots. It's good that you admit it. Obviously.

Look what happened when you changed your location by a foot.


LOL.
 
Wolrab said:
How about three aimed shots in 6-8 seconds with the first bullet already chambered? Sight-BANG!-chamber a round-aim-BANG!-chamber a round-aim-BANG!
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Yeah, but the only training Oswald got was from the Marines. What do THEY know about shooting people?
 
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