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Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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I think the Piss Messiah thing has been done.

Ah, but a Piss FMOTL would be nearly as epic. Of course, he'd have to consent to be there but somehow I don't imagine it'd take too much to convince him that the attention in the press would bring epic presence in the public mind to just how important FMOTLism really is. :)

Gives me a warm feeling all over just thinking about it

Fitz
 
Lol at the advice from one of Roberts 'friends' on FB (screenshot taken)
https://www.facebook.com/robert.menard.52

A freeman doing something against the law?
Surely not. :eek:

That's just so 12 hours old. Do try to keep up, old man! ;)

PS Just had a thought.
Robert, bearing in mind you are the Chief of the C3PO you wouldn't need to impersonate a police officer would you?
Because according to you you are a peace officer with the same powers.
So get your backside in gear and contact the ISP and you can give your name and details and job title and they will give you the information.

You up for that Robert?

This open for the JREF Million Dollar Challenge? :D

Fitz
 
@3:20, on when it makes sense to 'destroy' someone. The reason being if it needs to be "done to save somebody else"...

Think about that statement. Would losing your family, job, freedom, and possibly sanity count as destruction? I believe Lance was an example of somebody being destroyed by the freeman way.

Mr. Menard, we are still looking for those answers. It has been 3 years by your count. We believe your teachings are destructive to those who follow it. This forum is loaded with cases where freeman approaches have failed and resulted in serious consequences including loss of property and freedom.

We believe that you are the one flipping the truth. If there is something to the methods you advocate, we are looking for evidence in the form of a court case (multiple preferable) saying "person x was dismissed due to lack of consent" or whatever aspect is being proven. We see you have stories, but we do not trust you and can't accept them without some form of evidence.

How many people will you destroy by withholding the evidence you claim to have?
 
If there is something to the methods you advocate, we are looking for evidence in the form of a court case (multiple preferable) saying "person x was dismissed due to lack of consent" or whatever aspect is being proven.

Not once 1n 12 years since he allegedly had his child stolen by the state (it wasn't his and it wasn't stolen ) has Robert provided one shred of proof that anything he claims with regards his "withdrawal of consent" theory is true.
All he needed to do was to ignore a statute and when challenged by the police and courts simply deliver his argument and the case would be dismissed as he wasn't answerable due to his ability to withdraw consent.

Now, does anyone have any idea why he didnt chose this route rather than conning Lance Thatcher and conning "Malcolm" into losing his car and getting a fine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8lg0WAZ-PM
 
http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html
c. Robert Arthur Menard

[121] Robert Arthur Menard [“Menard”] (typically styled “Robert-Arthur: Menard”) is the subject of less case commentary. He is associated with the Freeman-on-the-Land OPCA movement, and identifies himself as such: United States of America v. Emery, 2005 BCSC 1192 (CanLII), 2005 BCSC 1192 at para. 7, 70 W.C.B. (2d) 37. Menard has attempted to participate in legal actions as an intervener, but was denied that status: United States of America v. Emery. That was an extradition proceeding. Menard’s OPCA concepts outlined in that case include:

1. state actors require the consent of persons, any state activity without consent is oppressive;

2. a statute is not law and cannot be the basis for extradition; unlawful conduct is only something such as rape or murder; and

3. Canada had “abdicated” its role in the extradition process and that Menard would represent the interests of Canadians.

[122] Menard’s submissions concerning the United States were dramatic:

The American Prison System and SLAVERY:

Robert‑Arthur: Menard will argue that the American prison system has in fact turned into a system amounting to slavery, where prisoners are economically forced to provide labour for corporate entities. Stock in private prisons can even be purchased on the open market and the Prison Industrial System now operating is one very hungry Beast with a growing appetite. It a clear they will always need MORE employees/prisoners/slaves. Furthermore, these corporate enterprises are primarily concerned with profit and not‑rehabilitation or re‑integration and using punishment as a means of corporate enrichment is cruel and unusual. Speaking of societies, none of the accused are members of the society governed by and under the jurisdiction of the Grand Jury which handed down the Indictment.

[123] In 2008 the British Columbia Supreme Court in The Law Society of British Columbia v. Robert Arthur Menard (8 January 2008) Vancouver S073719 (B.C.S.C.) granted an order prohibiting Menard from acting as a lawyer and providing legal advice, and receiving compensation for the same.

[124] This Court’s review of the Freeman-on-the-Land phenomenon has observed that Menard is associated with or operates a number of “Freeman” Internet websites that market OPCA materials, including the “Canadian Common Corps Of Peace Officers” (“C3PO”) (website: http://www.c3po.ca), a group of self-declared and appointed vigilante “peace officers” who:

... are the answer to avoiding a police state in Canada. All able bodied and suitable candidates can if they wish be hired to preserve and maintain the public peace under affirmation and contract. In this way the people of Canada can deal with errant or rogue police from the position of a peace officer, and those who are Freemen can exercise their rights without hindrance by existing policy enforcement officers and with the full protection of true peace officers.

These websites also indicate Menard travels and gives seminars, for pay.

Bolded for emphasis.
Surely the self styled leader of the freeman movement would have had more legal rulings and case law if he actually practiced what he preached?
 
Robert, bearing in mind you are the Chief of the C3PO you wouldn't need to impersonate a police officer would you?
Because according to you you are a peace officer with the same powers.
So get your backside in gear and contact the ISP and you can give your name and details and job title and they will give you the information.

You up for that Robert?

I rather doubt our subject will risk charges of impersonating a police officer to get the IP information he wants. He could have tried that ruse months ago when he started collecting IP addresses at the WFS forum. But Menard knows full well that, despite his assurances to freeman marks that the C3PO is on the level, he is asking for trouble by pretending to be the cops.

That’s why he’s going the Norwich order route. Not that it’s going to work either. But at least it doesn’t land him in jail.

Of course, Fez Boy is not above letting a minion misuse his own C3PO decoder ring to try and get the information, just like he is not above asking others to do the dirty work of trying to find the origin of JB’s IP address.

On Bobby’s part this all about keeping face in the freeman cult and possibly pulling in a few dollars for the so called “legal effort“.

Dollars we have no more assurance will not be used for beer and bongs than we did the funds received for the nonexistent freeman valley.
 
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Fez boy isn't going to do anything just yet, he's playing the "long game" :D

Hey Dan, you are judging my actions without full awareness of the goal, or strategy. There is a reason I am highlighting what is happening on that forum. It is not my focus, but it is a backstory.

Maybe he's playing the "long game" getting little Elizabeth back as well.
Hang on though she will be 13 soon, don't leave it too long Rob.

just like he is not above asking others to do the dirty work of trying to find the origin of JB’s IP address.
it's not my IP address. ;)
 
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Fez boy isn't going to do anything just yet, he's playing the "long game" :D

Maybe he's playing the "long game" getting little Elizabeth back as well.
Hang on though she will be 13 soon, don't leave it too long Rob.

Menard, who fancies himself to be so powerful, can’t stop the authorities from forcing him to comply with statute law.

Airlines refuse to seat him on a plane when he fails to produce government issued ID.

Despite his claimed bullet proof status traffic cops ticket him and his traveling companions.

The courts tell him to stop playing lawyer and make it stick.

Child protective services, sighting poor conditions, removes a newborn child from his care.

The reality is that our subject is about as restricted as a non-incarcerated individual can get. He can’t drive a car, travel across the border at Vancouver to Washington state, fly on a plane or get a job where the boss withholds taxes.

it's not my IP address. ;)

The poor soul. He is too high strung. I am afraid that clean and sober the strain is more than he can bear.
 
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I obviously missed that one first time around. Another classic example, a truly great one actually, of Robert Menard being completely unable to fathom the idiocy and hypocrisy in his own gibberish posts.

One of the few gigs he's done where his audience actually finds his comedy act funny!
Unfortunately Rob doesn't know which joke they're laughing at. Priceless.

So that I don't lose that link:
Robert Menard digs an even bigger hole for himself than usual

Ah, what a nice trip down memory lane. Menard, Girl Gye, all of the old characters are there. Those were the good old days.
 
Good idea, unfortunately for him Bobby boy is an expert in self destruction, I don't think he needs me to upset his apple cart.

Hey Bobby Boy, why dont you tell all your FB/Youtube friends why you got banned from David Ickes Freeman forums?

Never mind, I will, it was because you posted a forged legal letter from a solicitors and claimed it to be a freeman victory.

Dont worry I have a copy of the letter, just in case. :D


I don't know why anyone would archive any of Menard's posts or "evidence".
It's not as if he ever back-pedals and denies saying things later on down the line.

Original DIF thread here.

Notice the title of the thread, then Menard's back-pedaling.

Also note that most images of the printed email have vanished from most fora.
I'd post a copy here but it would be removed as the Solicitors involved requested it not be reproduced anywhere due to it being complete BS.

This is like one of those TV Channels that shows nothing but all the old programmes from years gone by that you miss because they made you laugh so much you did a little wee. (No "piss on Rob" pun intended).
 
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I don't know why anyone would archive any of Menard's posts or "evidence".
It's not as if he ever back-pedals and denies saying things later on down the line.

Original DIF thread here.

Notice the title of the thread, then Menard's back-pedaling.

Also note that most images of the printed email have vanished from most fora.
I'd post a copy here but it would be removed as the Solicitors involved requested it not be reproduced anywhere due to it being complete BS.

Talk about losing one’s moral compass!

Like I said in the thread at some point in Menard’s childhood he decided that the way out of his lies wasn’t honesty, but simply more lies.

It’s seems to be a mystery to Menard that out and out falsehoods like this so damage his credibility as to give weight to the suspicion that he has simply pocketed the money freemen gave him for specific projects.

Where’s the money, Rob?
 
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Ok then. Since it is in my own hometown, I am willing to collaborate with anyone here to present the fraud of the Irish solicitors faked letter here.

I would need some help, as the firm in question seems to believe their responses have eliminated this malarkey, and has thus gone away. Sure it has.

Of particular interest to me would be the original claims, and claims which post date the flat out denial by the firm.

Any takers who have that to hand? Or Lord help me do I have to dive back into the DI cesspool?
 
Yes Menard where is all that money you've taken in for donations? Whatja doing with it?
 
Where’s the money, Rob?

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Yes, spill the beans old chap.
 
Ah, what a nice trip down memory lane. Menard, Girl Gye, all of the old characters are there. Those were the good old days.
A trip back over those threads just shows how many skeptics have been banned over the years and how Menard was looked after by Merlincove. (now reborn as Zhiba to distance himself from Menard)
Most of the Menard believers drifted away back to reality when it dawned on them he was all talk and no trousers.

It sure makes a mockery of Menards claims of freemanism growing exponentially :rolleyes:
 
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Menard is trying to use Facebook to recruit a whole new group of gullible freeman wannabes who, it seems, can’t be bothered with checking out his reputation or the authenticity and effectiveness of his theories.

Since Facebook functions allow Menard to act a his own super-moderator he can remove material he doesn’t like and block anybody who asks tough questions.

The poor old boy must realize that by publishing JB’s Randi posts on Facebook and YouTube he only makes it more likely that freemen and freemen-lites will visit here and get a dose of reality.

But his hyper sensitivity to criticism won’t allow him to ignore the beat down he’s getting here.

Personality disorders are a drag, eh, Bobby?

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It is day 68 since Fez Boy filed and I haven’t heard anything from the courts, or my internet and email providers.
 
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Since Facebook functions allow Menard to act a his own super-moderator he can remove material he doesn’t like and block anybody who asks tough questions.
Super moderator or not he cant stop someone creating a fake facebook page, asking his some pertinent questions, screenshotting said questions and then screenshotting said questions being deleted and user blocked. :D
 
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