JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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Tomtomkent said:
Ah, well in THAT case we would only be left with the rifle, bullets, latent palm print, photographs, autopsy record, bullets, photographs of the events, photographs of Oswald, purchase records of the murder weapon, and filmed footage of events.

All of which you will make excuses about, none of which you can objectively discredit or counter.
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None of which negates a shot from the front.
 
Robert Prey said:
Rational thinkers, confident of their position, do not need credibility polls to bolster their egos or their weak arguments,. but the fact is, 75 percent of Americans are on the side of conspiracy.
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How would the band wagon fallacy support your claims?
Where can one prove the link between emotional need or ego and credibility or rationality?
You may have any amount of confidence, but it does not mean anybody accepts your statements as rational or strong.

Care to offer an alternate method by which the credibility of your arguments in the subjectiveopinion of those reading them could be gauged?
 
I see we are in full "fingers-in-ear" mode again.

Robert, you ever going to tell us what happened that day in Dallas?
 
Tomtomkent said:
How would the band wagon fallacy support your claims?
Where can one prove the link between emotional need or ego and credibility or rationality?
You may have any amount of confidence, but it does not mean anybody accepts your statements as rational or strong.

Care to offer an alternate method by which the credibility of your arguments in the subjectiveopinion of those reading them could be gauged?
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Opinion polls have nothing to do with truth.
 
Tomtomkent said:
Thank you for confirming objective evidence exists that confirms a shot from behind.

What OBJECTIVE evidence supports your claim? I emphasise the objective caveat.
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All "objective evidence" has been destroyed. We are left with the observations of witnesses, much to your dismay.
 
Robert Prey said:
All "objective evidence" has been destroyed. We are left with the observations of witnesses, much to your dismay.
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So it is true to say the only shooter for whom objective evidence exists is LHO and your claims of a conspiracy are based your own subjective opinion of purely subjective statements at least one of whom you have admitted reached different conclusions to youbased on their first hand observations against which you can only read their descriptions and it is therefore possible that your interpretation is limited by not only their descriptive ability but your own limits of understanding, as well as your subjective confirmation biases?
 
Robert Prey said:
Opinion polls have nothing to do with truth.
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Which I neither suggested nor asked. Plausibility and rationality were mentioned by you, credibility by Jay.

Could you propose an alternate method of gauging these instead of telling me about other things i did not ask.
 
JayUtah said:
Not quite sure where I'm "declaring victory" either. Robert mostly just yells "Baloney" and runs off. I don't consider that a victory on my part, /QUOTE]

Oh, but you surely do. Practically every post is the same. No substance, lots of insults. Why don't you take another "credibility poll" if it will make you feel any better? Then declare "victory" again. What a joke.
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Tomtomkent said:
So it is true to say the only shooter for whom objective evidence exists is LHO and your claims of a conspiracy are based your own subjective opinion of purely subjective statements at least one of whom you have admitted reached different conclusions to youbased on their first hand observations against which you can only read their descriptions and it is therefore possible that your interpretation is limited by not only their descriptive ability but your own limits of understanding, as well as your subjective confirmation biases?
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One thing we can all agree upon -- there is no evidence that LHO took a shot at JFK from the front. That would be impossible. So why don't you just forget about all that planted evidence on the 6th Floor? It's irrelevant to the fact of two or more shooters from more than one direction and an obvious conspiracy.
 
It's irrelevant to the fact of two or more shooters from more than one direction and an obvious conspiracy.
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Robert Prey said:
One thing we can all agree upon -- there is no evidence that LHO took a shot at JFK from the front. That would be impossible. So why don't you just forget about all that planted evidence on the 6th Floor?
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For two reasons.
1) It is objective evidence availlable for study.
2) Because you did not answer the question asked.

Perhaps you could try again.
 
JayUtah said:
Irrelevant. You have not proven the fatal shot had to have come from the front.
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Indeed Robert fills his response with irrelevancies. I asked if he would agree that Oswald is the only shooter for whom objective evidence is available and the limitations of the subjective nature of his prefered evidence. What he thinks the evidence says, if he would want it forgotten, and his conclusions are all irrelevant.

Then again he states that the presence of a second shooter is fact. Robert, prove to me it is indeed a fact. Show me irrefutable objective proof for the second shooter.

If you can not do so it is not a fact by any meaningful definition.
 
JayUtah said:
So you cannot link to a post where I've declared victory?
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Have no fear, Robert will no doubt retract his unsupportable statement and apologise before offence is taken and the accusation reported as a personal attack.
 
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