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Seems odd that they don't just remove that smiley from the list there.

I do know that there's one here that flashes very fast, which I could easily believe could trigger an epileptic. I'm prone to occasional migraines, and that smiley bothers me enough that I've blocked it.

If I had a disability triggered by something visible, and I wanted to use the internet and still function at the end of the day, I expect I would take some responsibility and use a monochrome monitor setup, turn down the one colour that's an issue, or disable images as much as possible .... rather than ... you know ... expect every site I use to manage this on my behalf.

I have some disabilities / issues triggered by avoidable things, and I tend to think it is better for me to take what steps I can to avoid the problem, than to expect the world to conform to my needs (where it is unreasonable, and often in conflict with other people's needs).

I also have issues where I need to ensure others are aware of them (I don't want paramedics killing me with certain medication if I collapse, for example) - that awareness is my responsibility, and I don't expect that medication to be witheld from everyone else - just in case someone like me is treated.
 
Since I wasn't, and those little arrows in the quote boxes show what I was really responding to, you're not nearly as clever as you think you are.

Since you quoted the whole post I thought you meant to quote the whole post.

Since straw man means misrepresenting a position when another poster agrees with the position that's an effective refutation that the position was not misrepresented.
 
If I had a disability triggered by something visible, and I wanted to use the internet and still function at the end of the day, I expect I would take some responsibility and use a monochrome monitor setup, turn down the one colour that's an issue, or disable images as much as possible .... rather than ... you know ... expect every site I use to manage this on my behalf.

I have some disabilities / issues triggered by avoidable things, and I tend to think it is better for me to take what steps I can to avoid the problem, than to expect the world to conform to my needs (where it is unreasonable, and often in conflict with other people's needs).

I also have issues where I need to ensure others are aware of them (I don't want paramedics killing me with certain medication if I collapse, for example) - that awareness is my responsibility, and I don't expect that medication to be witheld from everyone else - just in case someone like me is treated.

Exactly. I can see how it might make sense on a forum for people with a particular well-defined set of problems to avoid those, but A+ is all over the place. I don't think you're allowed to mention reduced calorie diets in case you upset someone who's overweight (or is that differently massed?).
 
I don't care about swearing. Even when it's a mod doing it. I'm not going to report something that doesn't actually offend me. Mods here can swear away as long as they're taking care of discourse.

I just think it's two codes of conduct and they both have points and there are depressing things about both.

You're missing the point , again. quite possibly deliberately.
it's not about the "swearing", it's about vicious personal abuse directly at often new members which has nothing to do with the subjects discussed.
Complain about it and you're then accused of "tone trolling."
 
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Originally Posted by Rrose Selavy
Some advice.
I wouldn't apply for the Randi Million Prize, your mind reading powers aren't very good.

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Originally Posted by Rrose Selavy
I'm not sure what I'm thinking is what you're thinking here. My thought is partly technical and it isn't positive. It's the way it could go if it continues on the current path. But if what either of us thinks , actually looks like happening we can say what we meant. I'm boasting no great powers of precognition here.


Er... I'm clearly NOT assuming I know what someone else is thinking here,let alone several people so perhaps you ought to read more carefully before you quote to try to make some kind of point.
 
What is the point of trolling them? Didn't they kick you out of a similar thread yesterday? It looks like they were still letting you post. Where's yesterday's outrage that they "kicked you out"?

I won't stop beating my wife!
 
Yes, this is true. Some people do rather transparently play the "you are triggering me!" gambit.


You don't get to decide or question who is sincere about their triggers and disabilities. Doing that would get you kicked out of the Atheism+ forums rather quickly. Have you ever actually posted there, or read their "101" materials?

In addition, you're completely missing the point. Do you really think that a person has to have a "trigger" or some underlying disorder, to experience anxiety and stress when the in-crowd people you were hoping to find common cause with, including the ones in green, suddenly show up in rapid succession and take turns scorning you and berating you for some minor (if not purely imagined) error? When your attempts to fix it, to clarify what you meant, to clarify your point of view which they surely must understand once you lay it more clearly, are further scorned and berated and called "notpology" and "splaining"? When they continue to deliberately misrepresent what you've said long after they've taken away your ability to respond at all? This will "trigger" just about any human being. Does "don't trigger me, I'm a person" really need to be spelled out in every post?

Apparently, the answer is yes, it does.

There are some members who are very demanding and very much want the board to be a safe place for themselves. If anything kills the board, it will be that. But I have very few complaints about the mods.


Yeah, I could believe that. Except that I wasn't born yesterday.

Reading the past few pages, though, it seems the biggest objection to A+ is still the damn elevator thing? Jeez.


If by "the damn elevator thing" you mean the demonstrable fact that Watson and her friends publicly and falsely accused people of misogyny and promotion of rape simply for disagreeing with her about how men and women should interact socially, and called for and carried out campaigns of ostracizing and shunning those people, and never recanted or apologized for doing so, then yes, that will be a difficult fact for the atheism plus movement to put behind them.

Continuing to pretend it didn't happen, pretending it doesn't matter that it happened, pretending the real reason it happened is due to widespread misogyny in the atheist and secularist communities, and pretending that the only issue involved is that a woman spoke out about her feelings about a minor elevator incident, have not helped and will not help, because these are now widely known to be lies.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
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I'm not sure what I'm thinking is what you're thinking here. My thought is partly technical and it isn't positive. It's the way it could go if it continues on the current path. But if what either of us thinks , actually looks like happening we can say what we meant. I'm boasting no great powers of precognition here.


My apologies, Rrose. I didn't mean to misrepresent your idea. The scenario I was writing took a different direction than I expected it to, and I planned to go back and edit the beginning to make it clear that I was proposing one possibility rather than trying to guess what yours was. But I forgot to do that before I posted.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
I don't think you're allowed to mention reduced calorie diets in case you upset someone who's overweight (or is that differently massed?).



We prefer the term "Mass Enhanced" so as to not be confused with those skinny freaks.
 
Can some of you please PM me?

I've had a pretty sedentary week and wouldn't mind a few anxiety spikes and/or panic attacks to reinvigorate my cardiovascular system.
 
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I am allergic to cats. Can I ask YouTube to remove all the cats videos as it could trigger a bout of asthma. If I go to A+ forum, can I ask for participant not to use furry animals as avatar for the same reason?
 
Glad to see some more humorous posts here. A good laugh never hurt anyone, I say typing with one hand while grasping my chest and hoping my daughter can sue A+ for their comic drama triggering my heart attack. :rolleyes:

Seriously though, just wanted to tell both Ronja and appalling I owe you a long reply and apologies, in case they log in before bedtime. You can read them tomorrow morning. I was wrong about quite a few things that haunted me dozing off. I sometimes wonder if I post solely to attain validation for my belief I don't really have low self esteem but am simply a jerk. :(
 
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