Conservapedia is not a source I would rely for anything, especially not an unbiased account of a sequence of events involving Richard Dawkins and other prominent atheists. I don't believe it is ad hominem to question its veracity. It is not something you can use to bolster your proposition.
Not really. I'm fully aware of the sequence of events, and I think it's pushing it to claim that A+ was started by Rebecca, which was the original statement to which I responded. A+ was just as much a result of Boobquake, for which Jen McCreight was also responsible, which was a year before Elevatorgate.
So if conservapedia says 1+1=2 then they are wrong? BTW: The source wasn't provided for "proof" of anything. It simply documented the events.
In this video the nexus is made quite clear.
ETA: It does nothing of the sort.
ETA: I haven't watched it, I rarely have the time or inclination to watch videos, especially (no idea if it's the case here) stream of consciousness rants. Has someone taken the time to write it down?
Never have. I've no problem using it if the events documented are sourced. To simply dismiss any and everything from any source is intellectually lazy at best and downright dishonest at worst.
Yeah, because you can waste hours with me arguing back and forth gainsaying but you can't take 7 minutes (length of video) out of your time to watch it.
Unlike you I wasn't too damn lazy to check your source. Okay, how about it? I don't see a nexus there. I see something that is at best tangential. Where as EG has a clear nexus.
The onion doesn't claim to be a legitimate source of anything. So how about we get back to the topic. I realize that you would like to take the thread off topic but that's really poor form.
Agreed. But if I find a diamond in an outhouse that won't make it worthless, right?
I never insisted on the source. So this browbeating is a waste of everyone's time and again, it's OT, am I right?RandFan said:
I happen to be watching TV at the moment, as well as posting here.
Trying to guilt me into watching a video? Sorry, I really don't need to, since it's clear that Rebecca, and particularly Elevatorgate, are not the prime causes (clearly they are related, and I'm not denying that) of A+.
I'm not trying to guilt you into anything. I'm trying to demonstrate that your claim of not wanting to watch the video because you don't have the time is silly. This is the 2nd post since I asked you to watch the video. That's 2 - 4 minutes.
I never demanded that you watch it immediately. But nice job of moving the goal posts.
I disagree that boobquake had much of any cause and effect. But fine, let's make Boobquake a precursor.
I'll make you a deal. You watch the video and I'll take the time to transcribe the entire video. That will take me a lot longer than 7 minutes.
