2 questions re 1120 'Missing bodies' from WTC 1&2 & media complicity in mass murder

[atavisms]

2 questions re 1120 'Missing bodies' from WTC 1&2 & media complicity in mass murder

We have been told, numerous times, that over 1000 people remain 'unaccounted for' from the Twin Towers. The most recent thing I could find on the subject: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/new_dna_hope_Au0HCjfc2WAHDpQlo9jYOK

So 1120 families got no remains back.
(1) Why has no one one bothered to ask or explained why, current DNA techniques are inadequate to identify these thousands of human remains that are on ice "for future analysis" ?

I know many victim's families got back only small fragments of their loved ones. A hip bone in one case..(found almost 2 blocks away) and buried that instead. I believe it is fewer than 300 intact bodies were found.

(2) What damaged these remains so badly, that the same techniques used to identify al-Zarqawi after we dropped a 500lb bomb on his head are inadequate here?

I have asked this of a few 'journalists' and they either ignore the question, or stay quiet. Not all of course, some know the truth perfectly well, but argue that, they dont get to pick their stories, the copy desks do, and they need their jobs.

I would rather change jobs, personally, than cover up for mass murder and treason. Journalists have betrayed their critical position as the watchdogs of the people against governmental abuse. Now they've become cheerleaders literally.. mouthpieces for elite interests. War, is always high on the list of elite interests. Just look at the US national debt in the last decade.

The media is owned by a handful of corporations who will do what is good for their bottom line first, always. So we have only the illusion of a free press any more. The Iraq war proved that conclusively.

How much will Americans stand for? It seems limitless

 

[cjnewson88]

1) This was written in late September, how long do you think it takes to attempt to get skin and eye color from bone fragments of over 1000 victims? Do you think they're going to give this information to you? Or just to the family members? Do you even know if the equipment has been installed? Or even arrived in the US?

2) You're surprised by the condition of the remains? I think you suffer from a problem common in the 9/11 conspiracy world.. that you have no idea of the magnitude of forces involved with these building collapsing. These were two HUGE 110 story buildings. The share explosive forces caused by their collapses would have fragmented any human remains. Following this, the 100 day fires which burned in the rubble pile would have cremated most of the rest.

You seem to be deliberately ignoring this factors, and instead targeting journalists for treason and conspiracy to cover up mass murder. No wonder they ignored you. You're accusation holds no water, it only proves your ignorance.


btw isn't it xmas for you over there? Ya know, wine, fire, presents, family... Then again, with beliefs like this, no wonder no one invited you to dinner.

 

[Spanx]

We have been told, numerous times, that over 1000 people remain 'unaccounted for' from the Twin Towers. The most recent thing I could find on the subject: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/new_dna_hope_Au0HCjfc2WAHDpQlo9jYOK

So 1120 families got no remains back.
(1) Why has no one one bothered to ask or explained why, current DNA techniques are inadequate to identify these thousands of human remains that are on ice "for future analysis" ?

I know many victim's families got back only small fragments of their loved ones. A hip bone in one case..(found almost 2 blocks away) and buried that instead. I believe it is fewer than 300 intact bodies were found.

(2) What damaged these remains so badly, that the same techniques used to identify al-Zarqawi after we dropped a 500lb bomb on his head are inadequate here?

I have asked this of a few 'journalists' and they either ignore the question, or stay quiet. Not all of course, some know the truth perfectly well, but argue that, they dont get to pick their stories, the copy desks do, and they need their jobs.

I would rather change jobs, personally, than cover up for mass murder and treason. Journalists have betrayed their critical position as the watchdogs of the people against governmental abuse. Now they've become cheerleaders literally.. mouthpieces for elite interests. War, is always high on the list of elite interests. Just look at the US national debt in the last decade.

The media is owned by a handful of corporations who will do what is good for their bottom line first, always. So we have only the illusion of a free press any more. The Iraq war proved that conclusively.

How much will Americans stand for? It seems limitless

This is just Dumb

 

[ozeco41]

...You seem to be deliberately ignoring this factors...No wonder they ignored you... You're accusation holds no water, it only proves your ignorance.

..isn't it xmas for you over there?

It was Xmas here yesterday so in the interest of "seasonal good will" I'll break my rule about not responding to tolling or other forms of idiocy.

Problem #1 is that he cannot count. There are (at least) four questions - not two - in just those paragraphs he numbers "1" and "2".

Both of those amount to lies by leading innuendo and each has two parts.
The first one has:

...Why has no one one bothered to ask or explained...[?]

-- I don't know - why ask us? - ask them. The set only includes nearly all the worlds population.

...why, current DNA techniques are inadequate...

round one strawman to set the (false) foundation for the equally false strawman analogy in the (alleged) second question. I suggest he looks to logistic practicalities rather than limitations of techniques.

Then his alleged second question has:

...What damaged these remains so badly,...

He must be kidding??? Two reasons will suffice:
1) Some big buildings fell down; AND
2) The same forces would have been in play if it had been CD;
3) The same forces in play whether or not "inside job". (The poor building doesn't care who did the CD or flew the aircraft. It only knows it is fatally weakened and falls down.); AND
4) Pretended incomprehension 11 years later doesn't change the facts.

(If he cannot count why should I??? )

...that the same techniques used to identify al-Zarqawi....are inadequate...

Which has at least two bits of untruth viz:
a) The presumption that limited techniques is an issue; AND
b) The false analogy used to support the lie by inference.

Then a couple of other points in this meaningless OP:

We have been told, numerous times,...

Whoever "we" are it doesn't include me - I've never been told any such thing. So he had better define "we' and what he means by the mechanism of "told".

...The most recent thing I could find...

So we are dealing with personal incredulity and limited research skills?

...I would rather change jobs, personally, than cover up for mass murder and treason.

Aha the old "lie by innuendo based on a truism". However my response to the truism is "So would I" BUT the criterion - the implied untruth - appears in the next sentence and that situation has not arisen...

...I have asked this of a few 'journalists' and they either ignore the question, or stay quiet....

I would do the same thing is approached by some maniac who cannot even frame questions honestly and flags within the questions he/she does ask the very dishonest objective of the questions. What do you do Atavisms when confronted by dishonest and illogical idiocies?

...How much will Americans stand for? It seems limitless

Homework Atavisms. classify the logical flaws in these two brief sentences. Limit yourself to two per sentence - that should get the main fatal errors you are employing.

[/end-trolling-tollerance-for-xmas]



(Yes - I will regret breaking my "don't feed trolls" rule.)

 

[Axxman300]

So 1120 families got no remains back.
(1) Why has no one one bothered to ask or explained why, current DNA techniques are inadequate to identify these thousands of human remains that are on ice "for future analysis" ?

They have explained why. DNA is not magic.

(2) What damaged these remains so badly, that the same techniques used to identify al-Zarqawi after we dropped a 500lb bomb on his head are inadequate here?

There's a difference between dropping a 500lbs bomb, and dropping a 500,000 ton building on someone. There's a difference between pulling a body out of the rubble the same day, and not getting to remains for months. Will Uncle Al, we knew he was in the building when we dropped the bomb, they had a relatively small scene to process. Ground Zero, much different.


"I would rather change jobs, personally, than cover up for mass murder and treason. Journalists have betrayed their critical position as the watchdogs of the people against governmental abuse. Now they've become cheerleaders literally.. mouthpieces for elite interests."

This could almost be true if it weren't for all of the stories the NYTime & Washington Post have run exposing misconduct in the Bush Administration, misconduct of the war, releasing the Wikileaks Iraq documents, exposing corruption and incompetence in the FBI and CIA. Other than that stuff they've been pretty silent,

" War, is always high on the list of elite interests. Just look at the US national debt in the last decade."

Yeah, and compare it to peace-time economies of the 50s, 60s, 80s, amd 90s. War not good for economy. In fact, had we actually had a Congressional declaration of war, industry would he co-opted by the government to support the war effort. Peace is always more profitable than war.

"The media is owned by a handful of corporations who will do what is good for their bottom line first, always. So we have only the illusion of a free press any more. The Iraq war proved that conclusively."

How?

The media turned against the war in 2004.

How was Iraq good for the media? How many news reports did you see about the war after 2005? How much air time has been devoted to Afghanistan last week? What kind of broadcast exclusives did any of the networks have with the government, and how much money did they make from those deals? Which media entity got rich off of Iraq? Why isn't there a "Dancing With The Stars: Fallujah!"? Why isn't there a "Bachelor: Ramadi."? Which western media groups have exclusive broadcast rights in Iraq?

 

[Spanx]

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2006-06/09/content_612683.htm

Would it be fair to say the remains of bodies in the towers would look something like the body in the above link.

 

[Bell]

"1120 missing bodies"

How is this a conspiracy unless you believe in vicsims?

 

[cjnewson88]

"1120 missing bodies"

How is this a conspiracy unless you believe in vicsims?

He either believes that, or that the massive amount of super-high explosive/completely silent bombs planted on every part of every floor blew the 1120 bodies into tiny fragments.. Even though nothing short of a nuclear weapon could possibly do this a human body (or, of course, a massive grinder of two falling 110 story skyscrapers and 100 day fires).

Actually IIRC he believes in mini-nukes..

 

[HotRodDeluxe]

We have been told, numerous times, that over 1000 people remain 'unaccounted for' from the Twin Towers. The most recent thing I could find on the subject: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/new_dna_hope_Au0HCjfc2WAHDpQlo9jYOK

So 1120 families got no remains back.
(1) Why has no one one bothered to ask or explained why, current DNA techniques are inadequate to identify these thousands of human remains that are on ice "for future analysis" ?

I know many victim's families got back only small fragments of their loved ones. A hip bone in one case..(found almost 2 blocks away) and buried that instead. I believe it is fewer than 300 intact bodies were found.

(2) What damaged these remains so badly, that the same techniques used to identify al-Zarqawi after we dropped a 500lb bomb on his head are inadequate here?

I have asked this of a few 'journalists' and they either ignore the question, or stay quiet. Not all of course, some know the truth perfectly well, but argue that, they dont get to pick their stories, the copy desks do, and they need their jobs.

I would rather change jobs, personally, than cover up for mass murder and treason. Journalists have betrayed their critical position as the watchdogs of the people against governmental abuse. Now they've become cheerleaders literally.. mouthpieces for elite interests. War, is always high on the list of elite interests. Just look at the US national debt in the last decade.

The media is owned by a handful of corporations who will do what is good for their bottom line first, always. So we have only the illusion of a free press any more. The Iraq war proved that conclusively.

How much will Americans stand for? It seems limitless

Let me get this straight; you're serious, right?

 

[BStrong]

I'm surprised they found even one intact body.

Depending where they hit and what they hit, a standard Mk 82 can leave significant evidence after detonation, and I've seen -0- evidence that one impacted al-Zarqawi on the head.

 

[The Big Dog]

We have been told, numerous times, that over 1000 people remain 'unaccounted for' from the Twin Towers. The most recent thing I could find on the subject: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/new_dna_hope_Au0HCjfc2WAHDpQlo9jYOK

So 1120 families got no remains back.
(1) Why has no one one bothered to ask or explained why, current DNA techniques are inadequate to identify these thousands of human remains that are on ice "for future analysis" ?

I know many victim's families got back only small fragments of their loved ones. A hip bone in one case..(found almost 2 blocks away) and buried that instead. I believe it is fewer than 300 intact bodies were found.

(2) What damaged these remains so badly, that the same techniques used to identify al-Zarqawi after we dropped a 500lb bomb on his head are inadequate here?

I have asked this of a few 'journalists' and they either ignore the question, or stay quiet. Not all of course, some know the truth perfectly well, but argue that, they dont get to pick their stories, the copy desks do, and they need their jobs.

I would rather change jobs, personally, than cover up for mass murder and treason. Journalists have betrayed their critical position as the watchdogs of the people against governmental abuse. Now they've become cheerleaders literally.. mouthpieces for elite interests. War, is always high on the list of elite interests. Just look at the US national debt in the last decade.

The media is owned by a handful of corporations who will do what is good for their bottom line first, always. So we have only the illusion of a free press any more. The Iraq war proved that conclusively.

How much will Americans stand for? It seems limitless

How come journalists do not write about this issue? Here is the last article I could find about it in which journalists wrote about it!

Bwhahahaha! Fantastic!

 

[Quad4_72]

This is just Dumb

And seconded. Dumb.

 

[NoahFence]

how many were instantaneously vaporized, kiddo?
take this insensitive crap elsewhere.

 

[njslim]

Another "drive by truthing" ....

Aka post something really stupid then disppear

 

[aggle-rithm]

How much will Americans stand for? It seems limitless

This American will stand for no more!

I'm putting you on "ignore".

 

[Orphia Nay]

(1) Why has no one one bothered to ask or explained why, current DNA techniques are inadequate to identify these thousands of human remains that are on ice "for future analysis" ?
...
(2) What damaged these remains so badly, that the same techniques used to identify al-Zarqawi after we dropped a 500lb bomb on his head are inadequate here?
...I would rather change jobs, personally, than cover up for mass murder and treason.

Why? Because you're special; a saviour to mankind.

Because you're {quote} "driving around in a world where every single person you see out of your windshield is utterly bloodthirsty and amoral, all except for you and a few, brave friends. What could make you feel more important than that?"

That's what you want to hear, right? Skip all the logical explanations and listen to me.

 

[BStrong]

Why? Because you're special; a saviour to mankind.

Because you're {quote} "driving around in a world where every single person you see out of your windshield is utterly bloodthirsty and amoral, all except for you and a few, brave friends. What could make you feel more important than that?"

That's what you want to hear, right? Skip all the logical explanations and listen to me.

Orphia, that is one for the ages, right there.

 

[Wolrab]

Reading the OP I had a gut feeling that he was right, but it was just gas prior to a wet, stinky fart.

 

[jaydeehess]

In May of 1973 I witnessed an attempted bank robbery by a man with a few sticks of dynamite strapped to his body. As he exited a police sharpshooter took him out and the bomb turned out to be quite real. The man was literally blown to bits in the middle of the street. I watched a portion of his leg arc through the air and land about 150 feet from where he had stood (though I did not recognize what it was until it plopped top the pavement.
A clean up operation was undertaken and this included searching the rooftops for pieces. It also included the fire department washing blood and the tinier bits down the storm drain. A year later workers re-roofing a nearby building found some that had been missed both by the original searchers as well as local seagulls and ravens.

This was one person, a few sticks of explosive, no fire, no subsequent 110 storeys of collapsing steel and concrete, and yet his entire body was not found. He has also never been identified.

Must have been a NWO operation to prime people to believing that bodies can be torn to bits small enough to be unretrievable.

 

[jaydeehess]

There was not a complete body, body part or limb found, as the entire aircraft and passengers disintegrated upon impact. Only six positive identifications were later obtained from the few recovered human remains

9/11/01?
Nope!
Dec 19, 1997
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185

six id's out of 104 people