Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 3

[AlaskaBushPilot]

It was Yakima at one time, not sure about now. I believe I caught an article not long ago with him being involved in the wine industry in some capacity. He was referred to as the former paving company owner so that's him.

 

[Sonny2]

Thanks for the info. I have some relatives in Yakima, maybe I should ask if anyone knows him.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

Are Kit's documentary and discovery of the suit now off the table?

Where they ever really on the table?

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

Why ? Stand by your post or don't post at all. Kinda just wastes my time posting back to ya don't it.

I'm not sure what you're babbling about, mate. The comment I deleted wasn't directed towards you, it was a double-post, as far as I can tell, we weren't even engaged in any conversation to begin with, haha.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

Do you have any specifics ?

Where this took place ? Who did he pretend to be ?

It took place here, I was told he was going by the name "CBengalensis," although, I don't have much in the way of evidence, but hey, evidence is lacking throughout this rumour-mill.

 

[HarryHenderson]

...the way the Roger Patterson story itself would - it's an amazing story really. A con man who has a fatal disease but pulls off the big score before he dies and leaves a legacy outlasting every scientist that scoffed at him. An ironic triumph/tragedy...

It is an amazing story. For numerous years I've accused Roger Patterson of being 'the smartest man in the room'. And he's been pulling it off in spite of the fact he's been dead for the last 40+ years. To tweak a now famous wisdom, 'smart is as smart does'. I suppose one can call him many things instead - lucky, stupid, fearless, shameless, whatever - but when you perpetrate a monster hoax and 44 years later it's still producing income because its veracity is still being questioned and 'studied', you've won, you've cosmically OUTSMARTED EVERYONE.

 

[GT/CS]

It is an amazing story. For numerous years I've accused Roger Patterson of being 'the smartest man in the room'. And he's been pulling it off in spite of the fact he's been dead for the last 40+ years. To tweak a now famous wisdom, 'smart is as smart does'. I suppose one can call him many things instead - lucky, stupid, fearless, shameless, whatever - but when you perpetrate a monster hoax and 44 years later it's still producing income because its veracity is still being questioned and 'studied', you've won, you've cosmically OUTSMARTED EVERYONE.

"Everyone" is a bit of a stretch.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

It is an amazing story. For numerous years I've accused Roger Patterson of being 'the smartest man in the room'. And he's been pulling it off in spite of the fact he's been dead for the last 40+ years. To tweak a now famous wisdom, 'smart is as smart does'. I suppose one can call him many things instead - lucky, stupid, fearless, shameless, whatever - but when you perpetrate a monster hoax and 44 years later it's still producing income because its veracity is still being questioned and 'studied', you've won, you've cosmically OUTSMARTED EVERYONE.

I suppose it depends on how you look at it. For me personally, Roger only outsmarted a few people in the grand scheme of things... The majority of the world either doesn't buy it or doesn't care.

I'm not saying he didn't create a great and iconic hoax, he did, but I think that has more to do with the gullibility and general "want" of the small section of the general public who want this kind of Monster Lore to be real.

Patty will always be an iconic image which most people can instantly recognise... but in the real world, most people just look at it and don't see the creative genius of Patterson, they just see a fella in a costume.

The image of Patty, and the "Surgeons" photo of Nessie are now Monster History, they'll go down as probably being the most used images in any Readers Digest editions known to man.

But most people don't see the story, they just see the fella in the costume. Therein lies the problem with Roger Patterson ever truly realising fame, even in death.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

He outsmarted a relative handful of people.. I really don't see how that counts for much ..

 

[SweatyYeti]

Gilbert Sundrome wrote:

I'm not saying he didn't create a great and iconic hoax, he did, but I think that has more to do with the gullibility and general "want" of the small section of the general public who want this kind of Monster Lore to be real.

Yeah, Roger did a great job, with his "hoax"...

Some folks like it because they are "gullible"....and others like it, simply because Patty's movements/flexibility, and tight body contour are unlike any suit ever seen.

 

[dafydd]

Yeah, Roger did a great job, with his "hoax"

Yes, the hoax was a success.

 

[StankApe]

There goes the neighborhood..........

 

[Resume]

Some folks like it because they are "gullible"....and others like it, simply because Patty's movements/flexibility, and tight body contour are unlike any suit ever seen.

Of course it's unlike any other suit; it's the first bigfoot suit ever.

Well, probably the first. Certainly the most successful because, as I'm sure you'll agree, it fooled lots and lots of folks into buying into the bigfoot craze. As silly as that is.

Glad you're on board.

 

[RedRatSnake]

Gilbert Sundrome wrote:


Yeah, Roger did a great job, with his "hoax"... [qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Pattys%20Head/F350-F370AG3.gif[/qimg]


Some folks like it because they are "gullible"....and others like it, simply because Patty's movements/flexibility, and tight body contour are unlike any suit ever seen.

I am pretty sure those making the film never dreamed it to be the film that ended up happening, ( well! crappy film but crazy following) Don't really seem like a lot was put into it to me, they got a suit rented a camera went for a horse back ride and filmed someone walking down the creek bed. In other words it just happened to be one of those ~ One in a million type things that somehow worked out ~ Nothing special just a fluke back in the day's of black and white when life was simple and boring, people needed a perk and they got the PGF.

 

[jerrywayne]

Bottom line: No way simple Roger Patterson could fool Mr. Yeti.

 

[Resume]

Bottom line: No way simple Roger Patterson could fool Mr. Yeti.

Most folks tend to fool themselves.

 

[LTC8K6]

Great suit indeed. It's head changes shape often, as seen in various clips.

It even makes outrageously large blinking motions as sy shows. Must be huge baggy eyelids, I guess.

I wonder what adaptation Roger was trying to convey? What are giant baggy eyelids good for?

 

[SweatyYeti]

Bottom line: No way simple Roger Patterson could fool Mr. Yeti.

Or....no way a manipulated, and completely irrelevant....(being the opposite of the illusion required, to explain-away Patty's moving/bending fingers)... 'Doll-Hand Illusion' could ever fool a whole gang of "Critical Thinkers"...

 

[SweatyYeti]

Great suit indeed. It's head changes shape often, as seen in various clips.

It even makes outrageously large blinking motions as sy shows. Must be huge baggy eyelids, I guess.

I'm glad you can see, and acknowledge, the apparent eyebrow movement, LT...

It is actual 'eyebrow movement'....in the animation, you can see how the protruding eyebrow shades the 'white spot' that is at the bottom of her right eye.....as it lowers.


That white-ish object/lump is clearly visible in several Frames...three of them are in this montage...

 

[Resume]

Disappointed.

Was hoping for more colors . . . and squiggly lines.