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Doctor Evil said:
Took barely 40 minutes for Palestinians to break the cease fire and fire more rockets.
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NO NO NO! You have it all wrong!

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Ziggurat said:
It's also a totally subjective opinion that genocide is bad. The very notion of bad is subjective.

I'm fine with such subjectivity. You are too, if you're honest with yourself, unless it gets in the way of your play attempts at moral relativism.
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How is genocide a matter of moral relativity? Most societies throughout human history agree that killing is wrong, and even more so that mass killing is wrong. It is clear that some societies choose to be subjective in their application of this moral principle, but the immorality of killing an entire segment of the human species has never been seen as something which is subjective. Unfortunately, the attention given to the said subject is subjective within most societies.
 
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tyr_13 said:
I'm not sure I understand the objection.
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Not sure if serious...

On the chance that you are: A "truce" normally implies that folks have stopped shooting at each other. However, when the Palestinians resumed rocket attacks, instead of saying "Palestinians break truce" the headline instead implies that the truce will only be broken when Israel fires back (bad Israelis - breaking truces!!).
 
JihadJane said:
No, it's not as simple as that. Such an analysis pretends that the past doesn't exist.

Hamas, a useful enemy to Israel and the US, is just the latest manifestation of Palestinian resistance to Israel's Zionist genocide, which has been going on for decades. The two "sides" have never been equal.
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This dog **** belongs in the CT section.
 
JihadJane said:
No, it's not as simple as that. Such an analysis pretends that the past doesn't exist.

Hamas, a useful enemy to Israel and the US, is just the latest manifestation of Palestinian resistance to Israel's Zionist genocide, which has been going on for decades. The two "sides" have never been equal.
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If Israel were committing genocide, then every Palestinian would have been put to the sword decades ago.
 
L.Y.S. said:
How is genocide a matter of moral relativity? Most societies throughout human history agree that killing is wrong, and even more so that mass killing is wrong. It is clear that some societies choose to be subjective in their application of this moral principle, but the immorality of killing an entire segment of the human species has never been seen as something which is subjective. Unfortunately, the attention given to the said subject is subjective within most societies.
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Already answered:

Ziggurat said:
The very notion of bad is subjective..
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/derail
 
On the chance that you are: A "truce" normally implies that folks have stopped shooting at each other. However, when the Palestinians resumed rocket attacks, instead of saying "Palestinians break truce" the headline instead implies that the truce will only be broken when Israel fires back (bad Israelis - breaking truces!!).
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By this logic, the United States went to war with Japan unprovoked.

Japanese planes bomb Pearl Harbour,
threaten peace between US and Japan
World community worries US will start war
 
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