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Julia Gillard - liar

Hallo Alfie said:
This one.



Citation please.
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You want a citation for something g you were arguing yourself?

As it is abundantly cleat you don't have the first clue about Australian politics I'll take the time to spell it out for you.

You claimed that oppositions never ever release policies until the very last second. I falsified that assumption by pointing out that Howard introduced the "small target" strategy in 1996 and pointing to an example immediately prior to Howard. I don't even know what it is you want a citation for.

But here's a citation for you, the 1969 Labor national conference, let me know if any of the policy platform sounds familiar to what Labor took to the election 3 years later

By the time of the 1969 party conference, Whitlam had gained considerable control over the ALP. That conference passed 61 resolutions, including broad changes to party policy and procedures. It called for the establishment of an Australian Schools Commission to consider the proper level of state aid for schools and universities, recognition of Aboriginal land claims, and expanded party policy on universal health care.[44] The conference also called for increased federal involvement in urban planning, and would form the basis of "The Program" of modern socialism which Whitlam and the ALP would present to the voters in 1972.[45]
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Source: Wiki page on Whitlam.

So that's TWO examples now, which completely falsify your original claim. But of course, you can always play your semantic ace and declare that you qualified your comment with the statement "worth his salt" which you can interpret and reinterpret until we get to the point of you declaring that no leader "worth their salt" would never use a large target strategy so through an intellectually dishonest process of circular reasoning you'll inevitably claim that the statement is unfalsifiable and you'll declare victory and pat yourself on the back, feeling very, very clever about yourself while everyone else shakes their heads in pity at your desperate attention seeking antics.
 
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bit_pattern said:
There's nothing to cite, we both agree that he ran a small target campaign
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How could I agree? It has only just come to my attention there was such a thing.

So... the Howard claim please, or just admit you were making things up.
 
Hallo Alfie said:
How could I agree? It has only just come to my attention there was such a thing.

So... the Howard claim please, or just admit you were making things up.
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Your whole contention was that oppositions don't take a policy platform to the electorate until the last minute - that's a small target strategy whether you've heard the term or not (frankly that you haven't does not surprise me in the slightest) and does not require a citation of any kind.

You were wrong then and you're wrong now. You've admitted you've no idea what you're actually talking about but you still can't summon up the contrition to admit you were wrong, despite it being plainly and painfully clear to anyone reading the last two pages of this thread.
 
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He he. The sound of the backpedaling is deafening. Can you provide some evidence for your Howard claim or not?
 
Hallo Alfie said:
He he. The sound of the backpedaling is deafening. Can you provide some evidence for your Howard claim or not?
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What claim do you want evidence for? I do not understand. I'm thinking you're very confused and don't actually know what you are asking for either.

This is a pathetic way to avoid admitting to yourself that you've had your argument so comprehensively dissembled.
 
A few points before I again ask for a citation:

Firstly - and I quote you directly you said not releasing policies ahead of time "was the norm until until Howard introduced his small-target strategy in 1996".

Second - (assuming correctness) your evidence of releases prior to 1996 prove you wrong on one level and perhaps me on another (I will check some more of the detail later and reserve the right to call BS on this too).

Given we have yet to see any actual citations on this Howard thing and you are backpedaling at a million miles an hours, I reckon you are either completely wrong or you are telling big fat pork pies.

So.... please provide some support for the Howard "small strategy target" claim or just admit you made it up and/or can't support it.
 
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Do you believe that John Howard didn't use a small target strategy? Because I have no idea what exactly you are complaining about.
 
Hallo Alfie said:
A few points before I again ask for a citation:

Firstly - and I quote you directly you said not releasing policies ahead of time "was the norm until until Howard introduced his small-target strategy in 1996".
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LOL! You really do struggle with comprehension, no wonder you're so confused. I cited Hewson's Fightback! and said THAT was the norm before Howard! :D :rolleyes:
 
bit_pattern said:
LOL! You really do struggle with comprehension, no wonder you're so confused. I cited Hewson's Fightback! and said THAT was the norm before Howard! :D :rolleyes:
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Maybe. Can I see something on Howard's small target policy please?


What do you think of the Carr thing?
 
Hallo Alfie said:
What do you think of Carr bringing in the Kroger's kids? Fair game?
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Kroger, Bolt (and you?) are in denial. Abbott is going down the toilet.

Tell me, what about your prediction that there would be an election well before now?

If I had made such a pathetic prediction, I would be mea culpaing.
 
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