CIA/Mossad Death Squads in Syria

[HoverBoarder]

Do the words "covert" ring a bell?

So covert no one even knows who they killed?

 

[Border Reiver]

Death squads are standard US "counter-insurgency" tools.

'Death Squads in El Salvador:

A Pattern of U.S. Complicity'

by David Kirsch

Covert Action Quarterly, Summer 1990

------

'Iraq's Death Squads'

You are welcome to check the manuals containing the doctrine followed by the US military and the Canadian Forces in dealing with Counter Insurgencies and show us exactly where it says to use "death squads".

And, no the various militaries of the world do NOT have one set of manuals for public consumption/general training and another set to use once you reach a certain rank.

 

[Clayton Moore]

You are welcome to check the manuals containing the doctrine followed by the US military and the Canadian Forces in dealing with Counter Insurgencies and show us exactly where it says to use "death squads".

And, no the various militaries of the world do NOT have one set of manuals for public consumption/general training and another set to use once you reach a certain rank.

Rule number UNO of covert success is that there are no rules. You seem to be confused. The CIA is not the US Military but I'm sure the US Military participates in CIA OPs.

 

[Border Reiver]

Rule number UNO of covert success is that there are no rules. You seem to be confused. The CIA is not the US Military but I'm sure the US Military participates in CIA OPs.

You seem to live in a movie fueled fantasy. There are always rules. Such as the US Government Counter Insurgency Guide. Please note that the Director of Intelligence (who oversees the CIA) contributed to this pub.

 

[HoverBoarder]

Do the words "covert" ring a bell?

So covert that no one knows of ANY example of anyone killed by them in Syria and Iraq?

So covert, that no one has ever seen or heard from any of them?

So covert they don't exist?

 

[HoverBoarder]

Death Squad Atrocities in Syria

Since early 2011, Washington waged proxy war on Syria. Daily it continues down and dirty.


Targeting civilians is policy. So are atrocities grave enough to make some despots blush.


Syria's conflict isn't an uprising, revolution or civil war. It's naked Western aggression. Syria's been invaded. A struggle for survival continues.


Washington planned regime change years ago. Western recruited death squads ravage the country. Strategy usually involves war.


Daily crimes of war and against humanity are committed. Pro-Assad loyalists are terrorized, tortured, brutalized, dismembered, and murdered. World leaders turn a blind eye. Assad is wrongfully blamed for defending his people responsibly...

"Responsible" mass killings of his own people...

Where is the self fact-checking with these people? Do they even attempt to pretend that they are being genuine or serious?

 

[theprestige]

Where is the self fact-checking with these people? Do they even attempt to pretend that they are being genuine or serious?

Dude. <snip> Don't waste your time.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Really

 

[Border Reiver]

Clay, have you found any anti-Israeli governments overthrown by the US yet?

 

[Clayton Moore]

Clay, have you found any anti-Israeli governments overthrown by the US yet?

Iraq

 

[Border Reiver]

The question was "Other than Iraq very recently, what anti-Israeli governments has the US overthrown?"

Given the large number of anti-Israeli governments in that area of the world over the last 64 years being able to point to one over throw doesn't give you a real solid basis for an argument

 

[HoverBoarder]

The question was "Other than Iraq very recently, what anti-Israeli governments has the US overthrown?"

Given the large number of anti-Israeli governments in that area of the world over the last 64 years being able to point to one over throw doesn't give you a real solid basis for an argument

What about Sudan? The whole 'stopping genocide' thing there was surely a front for attacking Israel's enemies.

 

[HoverBoarder]

Just in case people thought this was an isolated case from Tarpley:

'Foreign death squads kill Syrians'

This is, regarding the US, this is the Salvadorian option. People may remember about six years ago now at the beginning of 2005 there was a discussion inside the Pentagon on how to start a civil war in Iraq and they decided they would use the death squads that they had used in Latin America and Argentina in Central America and so forth; that they could bring that to Iraq, but part of that plan was already Syria because they regarded Syria as a part of it.

Now, the specific timing of what just happened - the head of the so-called Free Syrian Army, this colonel who is undoubtedly a NATO agent of some kind...

 

[timhau]

Are these Death Squads straight or lesbian?

 

[Pacal]

You know I'm getting more than a little annoyed at the propensity of some people to defend regimes like the that of Assad and Baby Assad of Syria. The idea being that they are under attack by evil westerners etc. The fact is the Syrian regime is pretty repressive and brutal even by the standards of the Middle East. Just go to the Amnesty.org site or Human Rights watch and you will find plenty of stuff about, repression and torture by the Syrian government going way back. One could of course refer back to the infamous Hama massacre of 1982. See here http://www.shrc.org/data/aspx/d5/2535.aspx.

The Syrian government is a brutal, repressive tyranny, which had an absurd cult of personality around the elder Assad during his life time. The idea that there is much defensible about this regime is risible in a black joke in poor taste way.

That the rebels are engaging in atrocities, (See Amnesty Reports) doesn't make the regime any more acceptable.

 

[BazBear]

Are these Death Squads straight or lesbian?

They're whatever you want them to be, if the price is right

 

[kellyb]

We overthrew Libya, Iraq, and are funding/arming the rebels in Syria.

This is a good insight into how our policies are made and discussed:

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/papers/2009/6/iran strategy/06_iran_strategy.pdf

page 150:

"A policy determined to overthrow the government of Iran might very well include plans for a full-scale invasion as a contingency for extreme circumstances. Certainly, if various forms of covert and overt support simply failed to produce the desired effect, a president determined to produce regime change in Iran might consider an invasion as the only other way to achieve that end.

Moreover, the United States would have to expect Iran to fight back against American regime change operations, as it has in the past. Although the Iranians typically have been careful to avoid crossing American red lines, they certainly could miscalculate, and it is entirely possible that their retaliation for U.S. regime change activities would appear to Americans as having crossed just such a threshold.

For example, if Iran retaliated with a major terrorist attack that killed large numbers of people or a terrorist attack involving WMDs—especially on U.S. soil—Washington might decide that an invasion was the only way to deal with such a dangerous Iranian regime.

Indeed, for this same reason, efforts to promote regime change in Iran might be intended by the U.S. government as deliberate provocations to try to goad the Iranians into an excessive response that might then justify an American invasion."

Geostrategy and geopolitics is real.

It's people like this guy that make the policies:

http://www.theglobalist.com/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=3683

(His predictions for 2025)

Prisoner mine workers

Some states acquired needed capital by locating nuclear waste sites on their national territory — and by permitting mineral-extraction methods outlawed elsewhere.

In Russia at this time, a new form of civil right was introduced. It permitted any citizen or registered company to buy shares in the state, thus giving weighted voting according to the number of shares purchased.

 

[LSSBB]

We overthrew Libya, Iraq, and are funding/arming the rebels in Syria.

This is a good insight into how our policies are made and discussed:

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/papers/2009/6/iran strategy/06_iran_strategy.pdf

page 150:



Geostrategy and geopolitics is real.

It's people like this guy that make the policies:

http://www.theglobalist.com/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=3683

(His predictions for 2025)

What do thought experiments have to do with whether or not the U.S. is sponsoring "death squads" in Syria?

 

[kellyb]

What do thought experiments have to do with whether or not the U.S. is sponsoring "death squads" in Syria?

It gives you insight into the minds of the geostrategists.

Also, check out age 113 in the Brookings links.

 

[LSSBB]

It gives you insight into the minds of the geostrategists.

Also, check out age 113 in the Brookings links.

Ah yes, the Brrokings folks go through various scenarios for US intervention in Iran (which is not Syria), and appear to lean toward the unlikelyhood of their success beyond just moral and financial support for a multitude of reasons, the chief of which is apparently lack of good intelligence. Bad human intelligence (HUMINT) is by the way a notorious shortcoming of the US intelligence apparatus, which vastly prefers electronic gathering and drones, which are inadequate to the overthrow of a government.

And, by the way, no Death Squads mentioned, and the success of anything close looks improbable according to the analysis presented. In Iran.