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2012 Debates

CBS just said Obama was the clear winner amongst undecided voters. 56% to 23%

He killed it in this debate. Awesome, very happy. Time to open up the mail in ballot and get voting!
 
Biscuit said:
CBS just said Obama was the clear winner amongst undecided voters. 56% to 23%
He killed it in this debate. Awesome, very happy. Time to open up the mail in ballot and get voting!
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Obama finishes strong

Romney fizzles

'Nuff said :)
 
MattusMaximus said:
Mitt Romney: "Government doesn't create jobs"

Mitt Romney: "When I'm president, I will create 12 million jobs"

Lol wut :D
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Yep. I suppose it is a possibility that he would use his defense spending increases to have a whole lot of unemployed people whittling toothpicks for the simulated bayonet warfare...Oh, Crap!!...Gubmint don't make jobs...
 
angrysoba said:
Sounds like Obama completely trounced Romney! :D
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I believe so, but I am biased I admit.

It also seems like some of the early polling on undecided voters also agree.

CBS flash poll said that 53% of undecided voters felt that Obama won and 23% felt that Romney won. IF that were to hold true through the election that would be pretty important (not that there are a lot of undecideds left but in such a tight election something like this can make a pretty big difference).
 
After tonight, it is clear to me that President Obama is the master debater while Romney is just jerking off

:D
 
Politico's take: Obama tears into Romney at last debate

President Barack Obama tore into Mitt Romney as a vacillating foreign policy novice during the final presidential debate Monday, as the former Massachusetts governor sought to close Obama’s long-standing advantage on international affairs and national security.

Both candidates lobbed sharp accusations at each other throughout the forum at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Fla., but it was Obama who set the caustic tone at the outset and dialed it up from there.

Putting his disdain for Romney on vivid display, Obama said his challenger has been “all over the map” on matters of war and peace and pushed back more aggressively than ever on some of Romney’s stock foreign policy attacks

“Every time you have offered an opinion, you’ve been wrong,” Obama said, citing Romney’s support for the initial invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the GOP nominee’s backing of a more open-ended commitment both there and in Afghanistan.

Obama slammed Romney for allegedly misunderstanding the 21st-century global landscape — “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back,” he said — and quoted Romney’s 2007-vintage comments questioning how much effort should be applied to finding Osama bin Laden.

“You said we shouldn’t move heaven and earth to get one man. You said we should ask Pakistan for permission,” Obama said. “It was worth moving heaven and earth to get [bin Laden.]”

And when Romney accused Obama of having embarked on an “apology tour” in the Middle East and having failed to visit Israel, Obama shot back that he was happy to talk “about all the trips we’ve taken.”

“When I was a candidate for office, first trip I took was to visit our troops,” Obama said. “And when I went to Israel as a candidate, I didn’t take donors. I didn’t attend fundraisers. I went to Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum there, to remind myself [of] the nature of evil and why our bond with Israel will be unbreakable.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82719.html#ixzz2A5XZSHSx
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shemp said:
Only the most blatant toadies and idiots would say that Romney won this debate.
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Hmmm, I didn't see it so plainly. I'd call it a very weak Obama win. What am I, a translucent toady? :)

But where I do agree with others here is that Schieffer (sp?) was next to useless. And hasn't he done more debate moderation than anyone else?
 
SezMe said:
Hmmm, I didn't see it so plainly. I'd call it a very weak Obama win. What am I, a translucent toady? :)

But where I do agree with others here is that Schieffer (sp?) was next to useless. And hasn't he done more debate moderation than anyone else?
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Wellllllll.....

The original snap poll after the first debate had Romney winning "hands down" by 26%. The same snap poll from CBS after this debate has Obama with a "very weak win" (using your words) with a 30% margin of victory.

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If you want to know who won the debate just listen to what the Republican strategist talking head on CNN had to say after the debate: "Who won the debate is not relevant!"
 
I didn't watch tonight, but I tuned in right at the end of Romney's final speech. I watched NBC's talking heads for about 15 minutes.

The impression I got was that there was no clear winner, but that Romney looked awfully presidential, which would mean that in voter terms, Romney won.

The consensus here is that Obama won. Bias? Or was it that NBC didn't want to appear partisan in their first few minutes of discussion?
 
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