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2012 Debates

No, I didn't watch it, but thanks for the bit from Obama explaining it.

You're welcome but how can you complain that they need to explain things when you didn't even listen?

I am not trying to be rude but it's hardly their fault you don't know what they are talking about if you don't listen to them.
 
Will, Krauthammer: Obama came out ahead

Conservative columnists George Will and Charles Krauthammer each came to the same conclusion after Tuesday’s second presidential debate: President Barack Obama could be seen as the night’s big winner.
Will — who called it “immeasurably the best” presidential debate he’d ever seen — said the president put in an effective, tactical performance, particularly by holding onto the "47 percent" comment until his final answer.

I just can't get enough of Krauthammer. He is seriously funny. Kind of like watching a death defying stunt hoping the guy won't die in the next 5 minutes. :D I cannot decide if he is serious, gravely uninformed, or a clever satirist most of the time. But if he says that Obama won the debate, that's good enough for me.:)

Kudos to George will. He is one of the very few conservatives left that I can respect.
 
You're welcome but how can you complain that they need to explain things when you didn't even listen?

I am not trying to be rude but it's hardly their fault you don't know what they are talking about if you don't listen to them.

I was reading the thread as I can't watch the debate. I hope to get round to it eventually but I was initially asking R. Mackey about a piece of legislation he mentioned which I had never heard of. I misread what he meant but when he said something about it being "obvious" I was confused as I had never heard of it before. I didn't realize that the legislation was explained by Obama in the debate.
 
"TRAP HER KEEP HER". Brilliant.


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I was reading the thread as I can't watch the debate. I hope to get round to it eventually but I was initially asking R. Mackey about a piece of legislation he mentioned which I had never heard of. I misread what he meant but when he said something about it being "obvious" I was confused as I had never heard of it before. I didn't realize that the legislation was explained by Obama in the debate.

Ok. Enjoy it when you can.

:)
 
I like how Romney tells the truth about oil drilling on federal land -- that anyone can verify as being true -- and our president repeatedly calls Romney a liar. I guess that is what you would call "winning".

Too bad he did not call him on the "machine guns are illegal" claim.

Ranb
 
Did anyone answer this yet? If so, I apologize for repeating.

The Ledbetter act requires that if a group of people are doing the same job, the women have to be paid as much as the men. I don't know the exact wording or the regulatory or enforcement mechanism for compliance.

The origin is that Lily Ledbetter was doing the same job as several other people, all men, in her company. As is usual in corporate America with salaried employees, salaries are kept secret,and are set by individual agreements between the company and an individual employee. She didn't know that the men were making more than her. When she found out, she sued on the grounds of gender discrimination, but lost. The court ruled that it was not her gender that caused the discrepancy, it was simply that she had not negotiated for or demanded a higher salary.

This pattern is very common. Women in these sorts of roles tend to get paid less than men. The reasons could be very complicated, but I prefer a simpler explanation. They pay women lower salaries because they can. Companies will always pay employees as little as possible. The Ledbetter law does something, I'm not exactly sure what, to ensure that women are paid as much as men who are performing the same task at the same company.

She lost because the statute says that she had 180 days from her first unfair check to file suit. She filed long after that not knowing she was unfairly paid until long after her first check.
The act fixes it to give time after finding out AND mashing it illegal to be fired for asking what another person is being paid.
 
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