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2012 Debates

Foolmewunz said:
Now, now. She said during the back-and-forth that he did mention a terrorist act. She also then said to Romney, but you're right that it took a couple of weeks to the (error on) the video reaction to come out.

She re-iterated that after the debate and couched it in terms of apologizing.

Now that that "miserable lying piece of garbage" has actually adjusted her error, will you apologize? Or will someone have to post here that he/she "will be surprised if the execrable MikeDenk has the moral courage to publicly apologize...."
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My googlefu is lacking; could you furnish a link to that?
 
One of the things about the oil and gas production: Yes, there was an overall drop-off in domestic production. It all happened in one year. Guess why? The other three years, production increased.
 
Dymanic said:
In your opinion, is it obvious that any of the remarks the President made in the Rose Garden on the day after the Benghazi attack were directed toward that incident?
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Here's the only way semantically-challenged conservatives would be right:
Obama said:
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for... Anyway, what was I talking about? Oh yeah, that thing in Benghazi.
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Tricky said:
What's insane about drinking all the water in your canteen before you're halfway into the desert?
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Good comment, yet what do we do?

It's imo at least 25 yrs before we have enough nukes running to furnish electric power in the amount fossil fuel does now. Green energy remains a pipedream.
 
AlBell said:
Good comment, yet what do we do?

It's imo at least 25 yrs before we have enough nukes running to furnish electric power in the amount fossil fuel does now. Green energy remains a pipedream.
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Drink from someone else's canteen, even if they charge you for it.

(i.e. Save ours. Burn theirs first.)
 
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Dymanic said:
In your opinion, is it obvious that any of the remarks the President made in the Rose Garden on the day after the Benghazi attack were directed toward that incident?
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No. IMO he was trying to link a number of incidents, for example Cairo plus other countries that had problems, with Benghazi.

He certainly didn't say Benghazi was a terrorist attack, then; or for that fact, ever.
 
MaverickPLM said:
Ah yes. McCain beating Romney for the presidential nominee in 2008 is a good thing for Romney. It helps to give him street cred now. :rolleyes:
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I like where this is going.

"I was beaten by McCain. I was beaten by Kennedy. And if I get beaten by
another major political then candidate then my record will speak for itself.
You can take that to the bank!"

P.S. I got the Kennedy bit from this video.
 
AlBell said:
No. IMO he was trying to link a number of incidents, for example Cairo plus other countries that had problems, with Benghazi.

He certainly didn't say Benghazi was a terrorist attack, then; or for that fact, ever.
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If he didn't think there was a terrorist element then why did he bring up the word terrorism at all?

It was just a non-sequitur in your opinion? He was just rambling?
 
AlBell said:
Please post a link to a Fact Check you like.

Thanks in advance. :)
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Please stop trying to deflect from the fact that you posted a partial fact check & used it to imply that Obama lied more than Romney.:D
 
Tricky said:
Here's how Politifact rates it (for the parts they've checked, which doesn't include Romney's lie about seeking out women's groups.)

Obama
3 True
3 Mostly true
1 Half true
2 False

Romney
1 True
2 Mostly true
3 Half true
1 Pants on Fire

So Obama has 66% true or mostly true compared to 43% (and likely to decrease) for Romney.

Politifact is a Pulitzer Prize-winning source.

PS. That doesn't even mention the number of times that Romney mentioned how the deficit increased under Obama. I was very surprised that Obama didn't mention the fact that one of the biggest reasons is because he finally put the two wars on the books. I guess he didn't want to be accused of "blaming Bush", even though the increase is clearly due in great part to Bush.
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And they didn't even evaluate the first lie of the debate, when Romney said, "The president's policies have been exercised over the last four years, and they haven't put Americans back to work."

First, many Americans have gone back to work, and second, Obama pushed for a jobs bill that was blocked by Republicans in Congress (some of whom said that their number one priority is to make sure Obama doesn't get a second term).
 
AlBell said:
Good comment, yet what do we do?

It's imo at least 25 yrs before we have enough nukes running to furnish electric power in the amount fossil fuel does now. Green energy remains a pipedream.
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Some green works. Windmills work, but of course you need to anchor that with baseload levelers - Natural Gas turbines do this well and have a very fast response time.
 
Biscuit said:
If he didn't think there was a terrorist element then why did he bring up the word terrorism at all?

It was just a non-sequitur in your opinion? He was just rambling?
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An intelligent attempt at a cya ... seems to be working for some of you too.

So far I've missed Obama saying "Benghazi was a terrorist attack.'.
 
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AlBell said:
No. IMO he was trying to link a number of incidents, for example Cairo plus other countries that had problems, with Benghazi.

He certainly didn't say Benghazi was a terrorist attack, then; or for that fact, ever.
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That's a very interesting interpretation. I'd say the first thing it reveals is that (just like your boy Mitt) you haven't read the entire transcript of that Rose Garden speech. "Benghazi" is mentioned 4 times. "Libya" (/"Libyan") 10 times. "Cairo" is not mentioned even once.
 
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