The Big Dog
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nice censor job on important information.
Basic compliance with the agreement you agreed to when you joined the site is not a "censor job."
Re-Open the 9/11 Investigation Now
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Basic compliance with the agreement you agreed to when you joined the site is not a "censor job."
nice censor job on important information.
Anyway,
Thank you Oystein and R.Mackey for being more objective and level headed compared to someone like beachnut who just appeals to ridicule. beachnut, you sound like Ari Fleischer did on Anderson Cooper:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/09/12/fleischer-and-eichenwald-s-fiery-9-11-feud.html
Ryan,
Bob Graham actually addressed what you think is nothing concerning hijacker support network two days ago in his September 11, 2012 talk:
(just a minute or so in)
http://www.browardbulldog.org/video-bob-graham/
Sorry I must have missed that part of the agreement.
triforcharity
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Click on the yellow card on your post, it will explain which rule was broken.
The Big Dog
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No problem, you are welcome.
Old Bobby Graham is part of the problem. He was on the intel committee for 10 years, right thru 911. The conspiracy here is good old fashion greed. Bobby has books, and he don't care if he BSs his way to money. $$$nice censor job on important information.
Anyway,
Thank you Oystein and R.Mackey for being more objective and level headed ... :
http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/09/12/fleischer-and-eichenwald-s-fiery-9-11-feud.html
Ryan,
Bob Graham actually addressed what you think is nothing concerning hijacker support network two days ago in his September 11, 2012 talk:
...
http://www.browardbulldog.org/video-bob-graham/
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Andy_Ross
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The realist in me guesses that truthers are latching onto Bob Graham's stuff since it fits their worldview and they haven't had much else in 5 years.
The cynic in me has Bob Graham pushing his book an astroturf PR campaign that uses truthers to push this nonsense. Given their proclivity for endlessly SPAMming such a wide net of media outlets, this might actually be a good strategy; take advantage of free advocacy.
The cynic in me has Bob Graham pushing his book an astroturf PR campaign that uses truthers to push this nonsense. Given their proclivity for endlessly SPAMming such a wide net of media outlets, this might actually be a good strategy; take advantage of free advocacy.
With the age of the internet, cut and paste is the way to go for lazy people like me (just joking)
I didn't post for jimd. I posted it because it is very important information. He posted it once on truthaction and I took it and used it. Posting the information here and on my forum.
While everybody has been arguing over whether the WTC planes were holgrams, if a missile hit the pentagon, or if it was super duper nano banano termites that caused the buildings to collapse, jimd and others have been reading through all the official, publicly release information.
The information about Fahad al-Thumairy should be of important interest to ALL of us.
Not to you though, beachnut. You just respond with insults and Balsamo comparisons.
Bob Graham isn't rying to sell books. He doesn't need money. His first book, "Intelligence Matters" asked the questions from the Joint Intelligence investigation that he was the head of. In his second book, "Keys to the Kingdom", He was able to get around the classification problem (since those 28 pages are still censored) to answer those questions by telling a fictional story
Thanks mainly to Bob Graham, eleven years later we have three very important names...
Abdussattar Shaikh, Abdulazziz al-Hijji, Fahad al-Thumairy.
These guys aren't part of some illuminati conspiracy club, these guy were major characters in the 9/11 hijacker support network set up in the United States.
If you look into these names, a lot of interesting information comes up.
This network was never dismantled and is still active in the United States today.
As Bob Graham stated a few days ago on September 11, 2012...
"It is not merely a question of the need to complete the historical record. It is a matter of national security today."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-graham/911-saudi-arabia_b_1868863.html
One of the three people, Abdussattar Shaikh, was the one who had Hazmi and Mhidhar living with him. Hani Hanjour was also there. Hazmi and Hanjour then went to Arizona for flight training. There is lots more info, but the point is...
"October 8, 2009 (Lemon Grove) – Community leaders gathered at the Masjid Usman-Center for Religious Tolerance in Lemon Grove on Saturday to honor Dr. Abdussattar “Sattar” Shaikh, co-founder of the Islamic Center of San Diego. State and city leaders as well as representatives from the Sheriff’s Department and San Diego State University all praised Shaikh’s leadership in fostering multi-cultural understanding and religious tolerance."
http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/2020
Isn't that cute
I did some searching and Abdussattar is still in San Diego as of a few months ago
Maybe it's no big deal
"It is not merely a question of the need to complete the historical record. It is a matter of national security today." - Bob Graham, September 11, 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-graham/911-saudi-arabia_b_1868863.html
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DGM
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Exactly! Let's start with anyone that looks look a terrorist or we think might be!There are a lot of people that should be kicked out of the country and are not
Oystein
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That's begging the question.
Besides, if Shure can't answer that question, what do you conclude, beyond "Shure can't answer that question"? Not being able to answer all questions does not mean your hypothesis is all wrong.
Steven Jones keeps asking me "why then did we find iron-rich microspheres after we burned red-gray chips in the DSC", and my honest answer is that I don't know. Still, these chips are paint, not thermite; Jones is wrong, I am right. His answer to the question is wrong.
Your answer to your question may be wrong.
jimd3100
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You are claiming all 3 are diplomats. Only one is. You are claiming none were kicked out of the country, when the 1 diplomat was kicked out of the country. The other Saudi fled just before the attacks and hasn't been back and the other is an Intelligence informant for the U.S. Government who was given a $100,000 payment after refusing to answer questions from the Joint Inquiry and demanding immunity if forced to testify and who President Bush then refused to allow to testify to Joint Inquiry.
Why are you claiming this diplomat was not deported?
Saudi Envoy in L.A. Is Deported
Prayer leader at King Fahd Mosque is suspected of having links to terrorists, officials say.
A Saudi consular official and Muslim prayer leader based in Los Angeles was denied entry to the United States this week and expelled from the country because of suspected terrorist links, according to law enforcement officials and documents.
Fahad al Thumairy, 31, part of the Saudi Consulate here since 1996, was detained at Los Angeles International Airport on Tuesday after arriving on a Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt. He carried a Saudi passport and an A-2 visa normally issued to diplomats or government dignitaries.
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/may/10/local/me-deport10
Not knowing what you are talking about noted.
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Justin39640
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You know that story is nine years old? Did you read to the part that said "The terms of his expulsion ban him from returning to the United States for five years." Got any follow-up to this story? Tried a search but Google kept throwing woo and the same story from 2003 back at me.
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Source?
How is your stand down because Cheney said shoot down going? Are you sure the CIA is behind 911?
Wow, Bob Graham's Blog - wow, NEWS
Like Balsamo fooled you, Bob has you spreading the word, buy his book, save the US, ... a matter of national security ... today. We going to American, we... wow, My country tis of ... lol love it. Impressive.
You are fooled by people making money off of books. They come out in election years, tangential smears of the other party, say big words, "It is a matter of national security today". And you think they have something.
In Bob Grahams case, ironically he was heading up the Senate intelligence committee. How cool. You can't see the irony, or the fact Bob Graham is selling books. You are as gullible on this junk and the "shoot-down/stand-down nonsense, as you were with Balsamo's delusions. You cure yourself in one area to fall down in the next.
Bet this happens next year, or at least at midterms the year after. Marketing books is business, why let truth and logic get in the way. BS your way to extra retirement money. Buy Bobby's book on how he screwed up on the Senate Intel committee, and turned a buck.
Gage uses the same cry, "need a new investigation", made over a million without selling boo. Graham has book to go with he cry. Snake-oil comes to mind. A Blog? wow
And...
and...
Remember,
Two tickets please. lol, Top Secret. Sounds like a shoot-down/stand-down kind of event. Your crank calls were funny, and your posts now r 2.
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jimd3100
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You forgot this part....
Proceeds benefit BrowardBulldog.org
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...0_1_terrorist-attacks-sign-copies-latest-book
BrowardBulldog.org
Dan Christensen, editor and founder
Dan is an award-winning former investigative reporter for The Miami Herald and Daily Business Review, and one of South Florida’s most experienced reporters
http://www.browardbulldog.org/about/staff/
This was an excellent way to support investigative reporting which is much needed and Christensen and Summers have done some good work, or perhaps they should have said they were taking up a collection to analyze the WTC dust.
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You forgot this part....
Proceeds benefit BrowardBulldog.org
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...0_1_terrorist-attacks-sign-copies-latest-book
BrowardBulldog.org
Dan Christensen, editor and founder
Dan is an award-winning former investigative reporter for The Miami Herald and Daily Business Review, and one of South Florida’s most experienced reporters
http://www.browardbulldog.org/about/staff/
This was an excellent way to support investigative reporting which is much needed and Christensen and Summers have done some good work, or perhaps they should have said they were taking up a collection to analyze the WTC dust.
Is bulldog cancer research, or helping kids in need? Or failed journalists who can't see a promotional book tour when they see one?
wow, does this mean they turned down your thesis on, shoot-down means stand-down, or what?
lol, The books he sold, the money goes to bulldog?
Bulldog is going to break 911 wide open? wow, now we are ...
11 years of failure
Bog Graham has a blog, and is selling books. You are posting promotions for books and don't know it.
This quote really sells it for me:
"From the outset of the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11, it seemed implausible that the hijackers -- most of whom spoke no English and had never been to the U.S. -- could have executed the heinous plot on their own. The inquiry proved those suspicions justified, and a 28-page chapter in its report centered on sources of foreign support for some of the September 11 hijackers while they were in the United States. That chapter remains censored, denied to the American people."
So, if you don't speak English you can't hijack an aircraft apparently.
Rubbish!
Andy_Ross
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I didn't claim to know what I was talking about, that is why I asked.
I notice that the person I asked didn't answer, you answered for him.
Why do you think that is?
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