Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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Mudcat said:
The whole point of a cover up is to not get caught. So what's the point of a fake that's intentionally so bad that you can't help but notice it's a fake?
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Obviuosly it propels various internet wingunuts to post on the internet. It is a well known method of propulsion, not restricted to this site. It has been around for, oh, donkeys years.
 
Mudcat said:
The whole point of a cover up is to not get caught. So what's the point of a fake that's intentionally so bad that you can't help but notice it's a fake?
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Nearly every government CT has the same fatal flaw, a plot so bad and full of holes a child could have written better.
 
All this talk of how PDFs are created and what they contain is pointless anyway.

Even if the PDF was 'created' as Robert claims it shows the same content as the paper copies and they have been certified as containing legit info.

What Robert needs to be addressing is why, if they are fake does Hawaii say they are genuine?

Forget how the PDF was created.
 
JayUtah said:
An anonymous drawing of objects depicted as layers is not showing me the layers, Robert. Expressing your chronic error in pictorial form is no better than expressing it verbally.

I've spoon-fed you the PDF. Show me the layers in it, as opposed to merely the objects. I've asked you to produce a PDF that has layers, not just objects.

Now stop fooling around and do what I ask.
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Semanticide -- the fallacy of destroying one's own arguments with doubeltalk.
 
Robert Prey said:
Semanticide -- the fallacy of destroying one's own arguments with doubeltalk.
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Jay is not indulging in doubletalk you are, he has shown that you know nothinig about how PDFS work nd when he explains it to you you do not want to know bcause it does not fit your fact free fantasy
 
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RP of the so called experts you cite only one is an expert in their field and that field is not forensic document examniation digital or otherwise and has refused to support the birther position anyway.

Can you not see you have no case you have no evidence, you have no expert testimony
The case for the Birth Certifacte being genuine is huge with plenty of hard real evidence to back it.

And if you are so conncered about the birthplace of your Preisdents why have you not to date called for the birth certificates of the previosu presidents to be produced?
 
Dcdrac said:
RP of the so called experts you cite only one is an expert in their field and that field is not forensic document examniation digital or otherwise and has refused to support the birther position anyway.

Can you not see you have no case you have no evidence, you have no expert testimony
The case for the Birth Certifacte being genuine is huge with plenty of hard real evidence to back it.

And if you are so conncered about the birthplace of your Preisdents why have you not to date called for the birth certificates of the previosu presidents to be produced?
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Name one.
 
Dcdrac said:
RP of the so called experts you cite only one is an expert in their field and that field is not forensic document examniation digital or otherwise and has refused to support the birther position anyway.

Can you not see you have no case you have no evidence, you have no expert testimony
The case for the Birth Certifacte being genuine is huge with plenty of hard real evidence to back it.
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The evidence is overwhelming and many experts have been cited, though none by the other side. Obama is a fraud from from his false teeth to his fake BC. Deal with it.
 
Dcdrac said:
Jay is not indulging in doubletalk you are, he has shown that you know nothinig about how PDFS work nd when he explains it to you you do not want to know bcause it does not fit your fact free fantasy
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Lost in the weeds of his own techno-babble.
 
Dcdrac said:
RP of the so called experts you cite only one is an expert in their field and that field is not forensic document examniation digital
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Name a single expert of your choice who is a recognized "expert" in forensic document examination who has made a published statement regarding Obama's BC?????
 
Dcdrac said:
RP of the so called experts you cite only one is an expert in their field and that field is not forensic document examniation digital or otherwise and has refused to support the birther position anyway.
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"A Cut and Paste Fraud"

An expert in forensic document examination is Joseph M. Newcomer, who exposed the "Killian documents" as fraudulent in 2004, has said that the Obama birth certificate released by the White House on April 27 of 2011 is a "highly suspicious" document that deserves professional forensic examination.

"There are artifacts in the birth certificate document that are strongly suggestive of a forgery. The document screams out that something is wrong." After explaining the problems, Newcomber concluded, "If I saw these differences in a document I was examining, it would scream out at me that the document was a 'cut-and-paste' fraud."

Newcomber was instrumental in providing expert analysis on the “Bush National Guard document scandal” in which documents were fabricated – faked – to try to bring down the Bush presidency. Result? The producer of the segment was fired from CBS News and long-running anchor Dan Rather, a hard-core activist democrat, who ran with the story, according to the CEO of CBS"
 
Robert Prey said:
"A Cut and Paste Fraud"

An expert in forensic document examination is Joseph M. Newcomer, who exposed the "Killian documents" as fraudulent in 2004, has said that the Obama birth certificate released by the White House on April 27 of 2011 is a "highly suspicious" document that deserves professional forensic examination.

"There are artifacts in the birth certificate document that are strongly suggestive of a forgery. The document screams out that something is wrong." After explaining the problems, Newcomber concluded, "If I saw these differences in a document I was examining, it would scream out at me that the document was a 'cut-and-paste' fraud."

Newcomber was instrumental in providing expert analysis on the “Bush National Guard document scandal” in which documents were fabricated – faked – to try to bring down the Bush presidency. Result? The producer of the segment was fired from CBS News and long-running anchor Dan Rather, a hard-core activist democrat, who ran with the story, according to the CEO of CBS"
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So all that is missing is a source, and varification of what the chaps expertise are beyond previous claims... odd robert would choose not to include such details.
 
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