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Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

Paul said:
Comming soon, straight to grindhouse infamy:

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So let's sum up. At the time in Jerusalem there were earthquakes, an eclipse at the full moon, the Temple veil is desecrated, zombie saints' tombs open, but they remain in them for two days and two nights, before getting up and wandering around, an event witnessed by "many" persons.

Jesus gets out of his tomb, in the presence of two angels. He is 6'8" tall. A woman of sufficient size and muscularity to carry such a person away encounters a person of the same great stature but thinks he is a gardener.

The nails used to execute him disappear and float by sea, the entire length of the Roman Empire, to Gaul.

None of this is recorded by any contemporary chronicler.

Am I missing anything? Just in case this scenario isn't sufficiently phantasmagoric already!
 
AdMan said:
BTW, an interesting fact--years ago PC was referring to her as Angelita, which I would think is a much less common name in England than Angelina (and a lot more common in the Philippines, with the diminutive suffixes -ita and -ito from Spanish...).
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Hmm, that is a very interesting fact. A quick search of the BMD index reveals precisely no women named Angelita born in 1956 in the UK. Nor anyone born in the 20th century with the surname Imden (unsurprising, since it's not a surname but the name of a Chinese mobile phone). It's almost as if this woman Angelina or Angelita Imden doesn't exist in England... no wait, it's exactly like that.

Any progress on that transcription, PeaceCrusader?

Craig B, you've missed the fun and frolics of John the Baptist chronicling the crucifixion of Jesus, despite having been beheaded several years earlier. And the Romans being sticklers for ensuring crucified corpses looked symmetrical.

Not to mention the non-existent grave robber Angelina (or -ita) Imden, with the 75 corpses in coffins kept in her house, the non-existent Saint Evangeline, the equally non-existent Egyptian Princess Reneliniyindi who married a previously unknown King Philip, and the madness of Passover being celebrated in midsummer.
 
Paul said:
Comming soon, straight to grindhouse infamy:

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A cadge match made in hell.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
In conversations with her, the listeners in the Philippines talk to her in Filipino and she is heard talking in Filipino also. I have experienced talking to her in Filipino in 1992 which I am transcribing at the moment (about 40 minutes).
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How amazing! Is anyone else as surprised as I am that Angelina Imden speaks in Filipino?
 
Agatha said:
Craig B, you've missed the fun and frolics of John the Baptist chronicling the crucifixion of Jesus, despite having been beheaded several years earlier.
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So, among the spectators watching the public execution of various criminals is a five years' deceased corpse, carrying its severed head under its arm. It's a pity nobody recorded the reaction of the other spectators, let alone the reaction of the Roman security forces, to this remarkable sight.
 
Elizabeth I said:
How amazing! Is anyone else as surprised as I am that Angelina Imden speaks in Filipino?
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I was so surprised I nearly spilled my Dom! I'll have another glass when pakeha announces the next round, though.
 
Craig B said:
So, among the spectators watching the public execution of various criminals is a five years' deceased corpse, carrying its severed head under its arm. It's a pity nobody recorded the reaction of the other spectators, let alone the reaction of the Roman security forces, to this remarkable sight.
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Twas merely a flesh wound.
 
Mojo said:
They go back to spawn.
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That's a strange and creepy image, Mojo, almost as strange and creepy as the idea of John the Baptist at the crucifixion, or the corpse of Pontius Pilate dragged from Vienne by crazed pharisees and dumped into the eastern Mediterranean.
It's clearly time for-
another round of Dom for all!
 
PeaceCrusader said:
The spirit of Ama is different from the spirit of Ka Apaz. They are two separate entities. They are NOT one and the same. They have different voices, different wisdoms, different mannerisms.
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Kevin Spacey is awesome performing differente voices, different wisdoms and differrent mannerisms:



It's called acting. That's what actors, actresses and self-proclaimed mediums do.
 
Great link!
A round of Dom to toast mr Spacey's talent.
And another in honour of Astreja's catch!
And some pistachios.
 
Craig B said:
The nails used to execute him disappear and float by sea, the entire length of the Roman Empire, to Gaul.

None of this is recorded by any contemporary chronicler.

Am I missing anything? Just in case this scenario isn't sufficiently phantasmagoric already!
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I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of Asterix and Obelix. Perhaps the menhir that Obelix carries is really a nail named Pointix.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
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It looks big because Jesus was really big. He was 6 feet 8 inches tall or 203 cm.
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The Gospel of Matthew said:
48Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: "The one I kiss is the man; arrest him."
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This implies Jesus really didn't stand out from the crowd. But at 6'8" he most certainly would have. So why would it have been necessary for Judas to physically approach Jesus and kiss him? Couldn't he have simply pointed and said, "The tall one. Y'know, the really tall one!"
 
Blue Mountain said:
This implies Jesus really didn't stand out from the crowd. But at 6'8" he most certainly would have. So why would it have been necessary for Judas to physically approach Jesus and kiss him? Couldn't he have simply pointed and said, "The tall one. Y'know, the really tall one!"
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Judas had just recently picked up a new fiberglass step-ladder from the Home Depot, and here he had just a good excuse to try it out. It's all explained right there in the Bible. I'm sure of it. I wouldn't have just made this up.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
I remember that Ama sent members to flooded areas in Pangasinan and threw nails in them. The flood stopped rising. I will post the tape recording when I find it.
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PC, did you actually see flood waters stop rising within minutes of someone throwing in a nail, or did Ka Apez/Ama just tell you that the flood waters stopped rising?

And when this allegedly happened, how long had the flood been underway?

It's highly probable that the flood had already peaked by the time the members reached Pangasinan, and that nothing in the least bit supernatural happened. It takes time for people to reach flooded areas, and floods do eventually recede on their own.
 
Rincewind said:
"CruciFiction"?

An extra round of Dom for you, methinks..
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Alas, although I've used the phrase a few times I cannot claim credit for it. IIRC it was coined by an acquaintance at another forum.

I will take another glass of that fine, fine bubbly, 'tho, as it eases the pain of trying to follow the plot twists in this thread.
 
Astreja said:
Alas, although I've used the phrase a few times I cannot claim credit for it. IIRC it was coined by an acquaintance at another forum.

I will take another glass of that fine, fine bubbly, 'tho, as it eases the pain of trying to follow the plot twists in this thread.
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Agreed.

However, I 'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't want the pain to stop...

:)
 
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