911 Facts Consolidated

[beachnut]

911 truth followers can't do physics to verify it take 12.8 seconds for a momentum model of the WTC to collapse to the ground - the floors. Why can't they do physics? Failed education?

Oh, too busy doing their job.

911 truth nuts post lies, they never do research, or math.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

Two things allegedly fell, the columns and the floors.

Clayton, this has been explained to you before.

The columns and the floors definitely fell.

Remember, the title of this thread is "911 Facts Consolidated", not "911 dribblingly ignorant woo spam trolling exercise".

 

[Clayton Moore]

Remember, the title of this thread is "911 Facts Consolidated", not "911 dribblingly ignorant woo spam trolling exercise".

Then stop popping in with ignorant spam woo nonsense.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

Try to stay on topic, Clayton.

 

[brazenlilraisin]

woo nonsense

Says the (converted) no planer. Some kind of narrative from you would be appreciated. Actually the effort would be, the actual narrative likely not so much. But you're kind of waving in the wind, alternately scoffing at and embracing stuff like mini nukes. We'd like to know what you think did happen; we already know what you think didn't happen.

 

[Bell]

Maybe one of your engineer friends could program a model to show how the "collapse" took place in about 20 seconds WITHOUT explosives.

Burden of proof is on you, Clayton. You say explosives, you have to proof they were there and how they brought the towers down.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Burden of proof is on you, Clayton. You say explosives, you have to proof they were there and how they brought the towers down.

Beachnut said he programmed a model of WTC 1 collapsing in 12.8 seconds.

 

[Bell]

Beachnut said he programmed a model of WTC 1 collapsing in 12.8 seconds.

So what? Got evidence?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Clayton. From start to finish. What do you think happened? How was it done?

At the moment you are claiming random events without giving a narrative that links them together or says how they were set up.

 

[Mikeys]

As an engineer, I did a model and found one WTC to fall in 12.8 seconds.

A model! I assume it was scaled down. Did you scale down Gravity to fit with the new ratio? How about atmospheric pressure and last but not least those cute dwarf elephants? Forget it beachnut. It works only in abstract world. Keep it real bro.

 

[dafydd]

Clayton. From start to finish. What do you think happened? How was it done?

I have asked that of Clayton many times. No answer will be forthcoming.

 

[DGM]

Exactly!
I have been pondering a hypothetical on this subject.
Considering the building in it's pristine condition, how many floors could be removed and the building still stand? For instance, if you were to remove the 70th to the 80th floors, leaving the core and perimeter columns as is, would the building still stand? This is a question R. Mackey can probably answer rather easily.

Interesting question, to which I have no answer based on actual knowledge.

Guess 1) Maybe until the next serious storm to hit NY?

Fact 1) The building would be unoccupied and the surrounding area evacuated until the fault is fixed

I'm not so sure. Having been to the top of the towers and remembering the wind (prevailing) being quite strong, I doubt the workers removing the floors would live to tell the tail.

To this exchange Clayton responds:

Who built the towers?

Reading comprehention is not exactly his strong suit.

 

[Clayton Moore]

To this exchange Clayton responds:



Reading comprehention is not exactly his strong suit.

Originally Posted by DGM View Post

I'm not so sure. Having been to the top of the towers and remembering the wind (prevailing) being quite strong, I doubt the workers removing the floors would live to tell the tail.

So you're saying that the wind was less powerful when the towers were being erected?

That some type of old wives tail?

 

[DGM]

So you're saying that the wind was less powerful when the towers were being erected?

Where did I indicate that?


Can you read what I was responding to?

Exactly!
I have been pondering a hypothetical on this subject.
Considering the building in it's pristine condition, how many floors could be removed and the building still stand? For instance, if you were to remove the 70th to the 80th floors, leaving the core and perimeter columns as is, would the building still stand? This is a question R. Mackey can probably answer rather easily.

 

[twinstead]

Yea. Clayton's the smartest guy in the room...

 

[Clayton Moore]

Yea. Clayton's the smartest guy in the room...

Thanks.

 

[GlennB]

So you're saying that the wind was less powerful when the towers were being erected?

You don't even realise you just posted something idiotic, do you?

 

[Sunstealer]

To this exchange Clayton responds:



Reading comprehention is not exactly his strong suit.

I think that's a large part of the truther problem. When you have a lack of education and intelligence then it's actually hard to understand what people mean when they write English especially if that English is technical or nuanced.

For example "any length of time" actually means for a significantly large amount of time and is easily discernible in context if you have a decent reading level. Mr Moore fails this again and uses his failure to dismiss a valid point. See here http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243529 post #9.

It's this complete lack of understanding that then reveals itself in the Dunning-Kruger effect , eg: I'm the smartest person in the room and avatars saying "I see dumb people".

 

[Locknar]

Upon review, this thread is general discussion of 9/11 )vs any specific topic)....a discussion best suited for existing 9/11 threads. As such, thread closed. Do not create any new general discussion threads re 9/11.

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