Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

[EventHorizon]

Somebody needs to come up with a Robert Prey drinking game.

 

[abaddon]

Somebody needs to come up with a Robert Prey drinking game.

Baloney.

 

[I Am He]

Excellent. Now try explain that to Jay.

Hey Rob, did you ever think of doing your song and dance act on stage? Your tap dancing is right up there with the best but some of your comedy needs brushing up on, but not your PDF knowledge, that's pure comedy gold.







I Am He

 

[fullflavormenthol]

Baloney.

And then we all die of alcohol poisoning.

 

[abaddon]

And then we all die of alcohol poisoning.

<snigger>

 

[erwinl]

Horse poop. All the documents you have asked for have been produced. It's your burden to disprove them.


Horse poop. The GOP would gleefully love to impeach a Democratic President. They spent nearly 8 years and $40 million going after the last one.

Your arguments are completely contradictory to reality.

Nonsense. 8 years ago the GOP in the elected congress consisted largely of RINOS.

???
Why are you referring to the GOP of 8 years ago? What are you talking about?
That was not the time Robrob was talking about.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Remind me what the basis of your argument was?

fraud.

There's an admission if ever I saw one.

By the way, Robert, why did you edit my username in the quote tag?

Dave

 

[Dcdrac]

This thread like the apollo, Holocaust denial and tuther threads reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMpu8jH1LE8

 

[tsig]

"a single page of the PDF file can contain different layers with different content."

What is it about this straight forward statement that you do not understand, Jay?

Sliced ham.

(I'm tired of baloney)

 

[Robert Prey]

Legally, an official copy has the same standing as the original.

I like how you just move the goalposts. You said Hawaii refused to stand behind it, and when told, again, that they have multiple times, you begin wittering on about an "exact copy". I'm betting that's about to be proven wrong as well.



He's posted quite a bit more than that, which you've only been able to a)hand-wave as "technobabble" without any evidence, or b)counter with "evidence" from websites which don't actually prove your case. Like you do in #7541, in fact.

And, of course, you refuse to explain why this level of scrutiny was not necessary for any other president, ever. Just the first black guy.

 

[Straw Man]

What is the legal basis for allegations of fraud against the State of Hawaii?

 

[332nd]

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=808&pictureid=6551[/qimg]

So what other presidents have had this much attention directed at their birth certificate?

 

[Robert Prey]

Interesting that you simply latch onto any old statement that seems to confirm your pre-existing beliefs, while ignoring a factually correct and detailed explanation of the underlying technology.

Dcdrac can confirm, if he wishes, that he and I discussed this post privately and that your attempt to recruit him as an ally to your interpretation is not likely to succeed.

Don't forget the Kool Aid.

 

[Robert Prey]

I understand every bit of it, as I demonstrated. What I do not accept is your interpretation of it to mean it has any bearing on the Obama PDF.

When you're ready to address the points I raised, let me know. Otherwise kindly redirect your personal obsession toward less disturbing ends.

Sometimes people can't see the forest for the trees -- or simply don't want to. Ya think????

 

[Robert Prey]

For starters, bob, "can" not must.

Secondly, you clearly do not understand PDF structure.

You have dropped into an ocean of knowledge here, armed only with ignorance, and the knowing sharks of education are getting peckish.

"a single page of the PDF file can contain different layers with different content."

Only the "Sharks of Education" could possibly mis-construe such a plain and simple statement. Classic Orwellian DoubleThink.

 

[JayUtah]

[Robert ignores several questions]

No, I think it's a valid question. You cannot name another non-Caucasian President (because there haven't been any). You cannot name another President whose eligibility on the basis of citizenship (which is a factor not disconnected from race) has been so hotly contended or so rigorously verified. That could be written off as coincidence. However, all the Birthers are Caucasian. Many of the Birther lawsuits contain explicitly racist language. And their champion is facing a federal lawsuit on the basis of widespread racism in the practice of his elected duty.

Your only answer is a dismissive statement that your opponents are somehow socially irresponsible for "playing the race card." In fact we're playing the racism card, and you have no answer for the evidence that raises that charge. If you cannot answer the evidence, say so. But kindly stop trying to shame your opponents away from holding you accountable.

And you ignored a great deal more valid questions.

You cannot remain consistent on what Hawaii is obligated to provide, has provided, its legal value, and the degree to which it affects Obama's eligibility. You change the goalposts as you suddenly realize what you said earlier would be sufficient has, in fact, been provided.

I have give complete and correct technical answers to the technical issues you raise, and you are unable to do any more that try to wave it off as "technobabble." If you are unable to understand the responses, don't ask for them. In response to these points you simply repeat the same Googled-up quotes that I explained, pretending that repetition somehow negates the explanation.

You are being held to a higher standard than your lunch meat can attain.

 

[Dcdrac]

I think Jay knows what he is talking about and you know nothing at all and you certainly cannot see the wood for the trees because if you could, you would be able to see that there is nothing to see

No forgery, no fakes and that your President was born in the USA

Why are you not demanding that the birth certificates of the other Presidents still living are produced?

 

[A'isha]

Sometimes people can't see the forest for the trees -- or simply don't want to. Ya think????

Yes.

Birthers, for instance.

 

[JayUtah]

Don't forget the Kool Aid.

Please clarify. Was that an accusation?

 

[JayUtah]

"a single page of the PDF file can contain different layers with different content."

Asked and answered.

Only the "Sharks of Education" could possibly mis-construe such a plain and simple statement. Classic Orwellian DoubleThink.

Name-calling noted. Continued resentment of formal education noted. Your desperate social-babble does not address the points I raised.