Merged No Planer calls for scientific study / Missiles of 9/11

[GlennB]

There are no aluminum bullets, let alone hollow aluminum shells traveling at 600mph and cutting steel. Bullets are made of 4 times heavier lead or copper and are solids. Their velocity is much higher either.

Evasion noted. Meanwhile - why can't high-velocity aluminium break steel columns when a rubber ball can break glass?

You are so close to understanding ....

 

[Justin39640]

Are the rocks you ride over harder than the rubber of the tyres? If not, you're making a tragic mistake and need to upgrade to titanium tyres.

It's what the Tour de France riders use, you know, what with all that tough ol' tarmac and cobbles and all !

Ha! Indeed, going to Maxxis now to check.

My friend's carbon fiber bike would blow his mind lol

 

[Justin39640]

Your aluminum foil bike? How did you survive. Don't tell him they make ammunition out of Al alloys, like aircraft use.

Now if only my wrists and knees were made of aluminum alloy
lol

 

[Mikeys]

Hmmmm
That's funny. I just back from mountain biking on my aluminum hardtail mountain bike. With 100's of miles so far on it of hard trail riding and jumps you'd think that weakness would have shown itself by now...

roll it down the hill as fast as you can and aim it at a steel pylon or concrete wall. What do you reckon, how fast you will have to travel to cut a hole in that wall. What your common sense tells you?

 

[Justin39640]

roll it down the hill as fast as you can and aim it at a steel pylon or concrete wall. What do you reckon, how fast you will have to travel to cut a hole in that wall. What your common sense tells you?

At about 600 MPH I'll do a whole lot of damage.

 

[tsig]

I feel as much qualified as you.

When you reread this thread you will see most posters wait before giving an opinion and as the thread goes they carefully fill in the blanks when the answer seems a safer bet. They forget that no answer on time is also an answer.

English, yur doing it wrong.

 

[Justin39640]

roll it down the hill as fast as you can and aim it at a steel pylon or concrete wall. What do you reckon, how fast you will have to travel to cut a hole in that wall. What your common sense tells you?

Aluminum alloys are strong. Get over it.

 

[JohnG]

Mikeys:

Anders is either trolling for attention and/or is so sincerely far gone that nothing anyone says here will make any difference. I think there's hope for you, though. You at least seem to accept some corrections, which is the only reason I'm taking time out of my life to write the following:

I feel as much qualified as you.

You are a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect^WP, which basically means that you aren't qualified enough in the subjects you presume to speak about to realize how just unqualified you really are. On the other hand people who actually are qualified tend to be, if not always humble, at least clear-headed and objective about their own knowledge and expertise. In other words they know what they know and they know that they don't know everything.

We've all suffered from the delusion of being "unqualified and unaware of it" at one time or another in our lives. For example I once entered a school talent contest as a guitarist. The only problem was that I had never touched a guitar in my life at that point. I dutifully informed my parents that night that at some point in the two weeks before the talent show, I was going to need:

A. A guitar
B. A few guitar lessons

They told me to withdraw from the contest

Silly, I know, then again, I was only six years old at the time. Conspiracy Theorists tend to be at least a few years older and therefore can't fall back on the excuse of being too young to know better.

The humblest person I've ever personally known has a wonderful family, a PHD in Astronomy, a pilot's license, is a talented writer and musician and basically has a life that would be the envy of a large portion of humanity.

On the other end of the spectrum, back in the 90s I had a job that involved climbing telephone poles, working on the roofs and sides of buildings and was generally speaking what would be labeled as relatively dangerous work. One of my coworkers was the most arrogant person I've ever personally known. He was a particularly sad, twitchy, unpleasant and boring piece of work who routinely blamed others for his own ridiculous Clouseau-esque blunders and talked about nothing other than guns, alcohol, cigarettes, conspiracy theories and his own personal and ever-growing "enemies list". Despite his deluded and oblivious overconfidence in his own abilities, he was such a train wreck as a human being that he was literally a danger to himself and others. I was almost seriously injured due to an especially unforgivable mistake on his part, so I was massively relieved when he was eventually fired for his breathtakingly consistent incompetence. Assuming he's still alive, he probably still seethes with impotent rage over being fired and I sincerely hope I never cross paths with him again.

Don't be like that guy on the bottom end of the Dunning-Kruger spectrum. You won't like it and no one else will like you. Aim higher.




“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” -Harlan Ellison

 

[Mikeys]

At about 600 MPH I'll do a whole lot of damage.

don't forget to adjust the thickness of your bikes aluminum walls to that of planes meaning proportions.

 

[Justin39640]

don't forget to adjust the thickness of your bikes aluminum walls to that of planes meaning proportions.

Oh... you mean make them thicker... gotcha.

I think my body's mass might do most of the damage at 600 mph. I'm 185lbs, my bike is only 20.

I brought this up to show you just how strong aluminum really is. Will you withdraw the statement that aluminum is structurally weak and flimsy? Cannondale didn't seem to think so.

 

[beachnut]

There are no aluminum bullets, let alone hollow aluminum shells traveling at 600mph and cutting steel. Bullets are made of 4 times heavier lead or copper and are solids. Their velocity is much higher either. You try imagine an army equipped with guns firing hollow aluminum shells. We should perhaps rethink military priorities. And as we are at it, why not redesign building industry to follow revelation science gathered from 911. Demolition projects of big steel buildings can also be reduced to just lighting a match and then going for lunch. The whole thing will collapse neatly in a couple of hours.

Water jets use abrasive chemicals mixes. Water alone will not cut it. And constant pressure is applied.

Moving the goalpost?

What is your claim? If it is you don't do physics, you won.

Fire destroys high rises. Are you trying to say fire does not destroy the strength of steel? Add fire science to your don't do bag.

 

[Mikeys]

Mikeys:

Anders is either trolling for attention and/or is so sincerely far gone that nothing anyone says here will make any difference. I think there's hope for you, though. You at least seem to accept some corrections, which is the only reason I'm taking time out of my life to write the following:




You are a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect^WP, which basically means that you aren't qualified enough in the subjects you presume to speak about to realize how just unqualified you really are. On the other hand people who actually are qualified tend to be, if not always humble, at least clear-headed and objective about their own knowledge and expertise. In other words they know what they know and they know that they don't know everything.

We've all suffered from the delusion of being "unqualified and unaware of it" at one time or another in our lives. For example I once entered a school talent contest as a guitarist. The only problem was that I had never touched a guitar in my life at that point. I dutifully informed my parents that night that at some point in the two weeks before the talent show, I was going to need:

A. A guitar
B. A few guitar lessons

They told me to withdraw from the contest

Silly, I know, then again, I was only six years old at the time. Conspiracy Theorists tend to be at least a few years older and therefore can't fall back on the excuse of being too young to know better.

The humblest person I've ever personally known has a wonderful family, a PHD in Astronomy, a pilot's license, is a talented writer and musician and basically has a life that would be the envy of a large portion of humanity.

On the other end of the spectrum, back in the 90s I had a job that involved climbing telephone poles, working on the roofs and sides of buildings and was generally speaking what would be labeled as relatively dangerous work. One of my coworkers was the most arrogant person I've ever personally known. He was a particularly sad, twitchy, unpleasant and boring piece of work who routinely blamed others for his own ridiculous Clouseau-esque blunders and talked about nothing other than guns, alcohol, cigarettes, conspiracy theories and his own personal and ever-growing "enemies list". Despite his deluded and oblivious overconfidence in his own abilities, he was such a train wreck as a human being that he was literally a danger to himself and others. I was almost seriously injured due to an especially unforgivable mistake on his part, so I was massively relieved when he was eventually fired for his breathtakingly consistent incompetence. Assuming he's still alive, he probably still seethes with impotent rage over being fired and I sincerely hope I never cross paths with him again.

Don't be like that guy on the bottom end of the Dunning-Kruger spectrum. You won't like it and no one else will like you. Aim higher.




“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” -Harlan Ellison

What is an informed opinion considering 911?

 

[Mikeys]

Oh... you mean make them thicker... gotcha.

you got a hell of a bike there. What length runway you need?

 

[beachnut]

you got a hell of a bike there. What length runway you need?

What is your claim? Are up capable of making a claim? What is your claim related to the topic of the failed video, and the delusions found in the links in the OP?

 

[DGM]

What is an informed opinion considering 911?

That would be the one that does not ignore the things you learned in high-school.

 

[JohnG]

What is an informed opinion considering 911?

You say that you are qualified to apparently instinctively know what a jet should and shouldn't do when colliding at high speed into the side of a skyscraper. I'm suggesting your gut-level instincts are failing you in this instance in the same way a person might instinctively doubt that a tornado can embed a flimsy piece of straw into the side of a tree.

You are "unqualified and unaware of it". The fact that you are unaware of being unaware kind of goes with the territory. The optimist in me says that you'll understand this eventually. The pessimist in me says that it will take you at least another two to three years of posting your offensive nonsense on forums such as this one before the light will begin to dawn for you. Time will tell...

 

[Robrob]

The pessimist in me says that it will take you at least another two to three years of posting your offensive nonsense on forums such as this one before the light will begin to dawn for you. Time will tell...

Sadly I feel you are an optimist...

 

[Anders Lindman]

Here is a video showing no plane:

From: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLPeuJ4ni8U

The white flash visible in the center of the explosion is a time and position marker, not a missile as some truthers mistakingly have said. So this is not some 'editing out' of a real plane in the video. It's the actual event without a computer graphics plane edited in.

 

[brazenlilraisin]

So this is not some 'editing out' of a real plane in the video. It's the actual event without a computer graphics plane edited in.

i created this to show just how easy it is to fake a video.

Ya. Fail. From here on out you really don't deserve any response at all.

 

[Robrob]

So this is not some 'editing out' of a real plane in the video. It's the actual event without a computer graphics plane edited in.

At the very top of your link:

i created this to show just how easy it is to fake a video.

Epic fail.