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Such innocent ignorance :)

Why does a tennis ball made of rubber+felt manage to break a pane of glass that would take a diamond to cut it?

How does a karate dude's flesh+blood hand manage to smash a stack of roof tiles?

Try to understand ... your comments are not worth anything just because you make them. They need to be supported by actual science. I know this is a bit scary, but you'll get used to it.
A glass pane vs a steel column.

You don't need much of kinetic energy to break a pane of glass. Just press your fist hard enough and it will crack. Ay more examples?
 
A glass pane vs a steel column.

You don't need much of kinetic energy to break a pane of glass. Just press your fist hard enough and it will crack. Ay more examples?

Yes. Your own.

You don't need much kinetic energy to break some 3/8" steel box columns, just a plane's fuselage and wings travelling at 600mph.

Don't you see? You can't make the claim you just did while remaining immune from the same claim? It's logic in action.
 
Can you elaborate?
Are you implying the hole was cut by a kinetic wave of sorts?
How does it work on the table?
What is your point? Do you have a point, you have no clue airplanes are not made of aluminum foil because you don't know what foil is, or how alloys work.

There are aluminum bullets, and shells.

You don't seem to understand physics. What is the final conclusion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM9FeEgI0Eo



The planes, stock planes with people did the damage on 911, fire did the rest. What is your point with the posting nonsense?
 
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This post show you have no idea. The answer is in the equation. Would you now like to admit you have no clue why you believe what you claim to believe?

We were already down that road. Kinetic energy could do the trick of crashing the wall on impact. Why not. It would also immediately turn the shell into nothing. So, what made the little hole on the other side of the building It could not have been the bow of the plane. It had been destroyed on impact.
 
Yes. Your own.

You don't need much kinetic energy to break some 3/8" steel box columns, just a plane's fuselage and wings travelling at 600mph.

Don't you see? You can't make the claim you just did while remaining immune from the same claim? It's logic in action.

At what speed the plane was going when its bow hit the opposite wall. I know, it should have already been destroyed but what the heck, lets assume it survived the collision and fire.
 
We were already down that road. Kinetic energy could do the trick of crashing the wall on impact. Why not. It would also immediately turn the shell into nothing. So, what made the little hole on the other side of the building It could not have been the bow of the plane. It had been destroyed on impact.

Debris, the landing gear, people traveling 590 mph. You don't do physics, not news after the airplanes are made of foil fail.

What is your point, are you saying the planes did not cause the damage due to KE?


A glass pane vs a steel column.

You don't need much of kinetic energy to break a pane of glass. Just press your fist hard enough and it will crack. Ay more examples?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTiiSCt6BzQ



Go ahead, hit this glass with your fist.
 
At what speed the plane was going when its bow hit the opposite wall. I know, it should have already been destroyed but what the heck, lets assume it survived the collision and fire.
NOSE.
The nose is made of fiberglass. The nose did not come through the building. The nose looking thing is debris at a moment looking like a nose, and fooled the 911 truth followers into claiming it was a nose, a delusional claim based on ignorance.

An engine and parts of the landing gear were ejected, from the collision with the WTC. The KE was equal to a 2000 pound bomb, and that is why the collision looks like an explosion.
 
Can you elaborate?
Are you implying the hole was cut by a kinetic wave of sorts?
How does it work on the table?

A kinetic wave? What on earth are you talking about? Why a table? The hole was made by a heavy object travelling at high speed. Where did you study physics?
 
We were already down that road. Kinetic energy could do the trick of crashing the wall on impact. Why not. It would also immediately turn the shell into nothing. So, what made the little hole on the other side of the building It could not have been the bow of the plane. It had been destroyed on impact.

Could you show us the maths behind that?
 
Question for the physicists here. Is a kinetic wave anything like a permanent wave?
 
The Crash
At 9:49 a.m., the ten-ton, B-25 bomber smashed into the north side of the Empire State Building. The majority of the plane hit the 79th floor, creating a hole in the building eighteen feet wide and twenty feet high. The plane's high-octane fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor.

World War II had caused many to shift to a six-day work week; thus there were many people at work in the Empire State Building that Saturday. The plane crashed into the offices of the War Relief Services of the National Catholic Welfare Conference. Catherine O'Connor described the crash: [blockquote shade="no"] The plane exploded within the building. There were five or six seconds - I was tottering on my feet trying to keep my balance - and three-quarters of the office was instantaneously consumed in this sheet of flame. One man was standing inside the flame. I could see him. It was a co-worker, Joe Fountain. His whole body was on fire. I kept calling to him, "Come on, Joe; come on, Joe." He walked out of it.2 Joe Fountain died several days later. Eleven of the office workers were burned to death, some still sitting at their desks, others while trying to run from the flames.

One of the engines and part of the landing gear hurtled across the 79th floor, through wall partitions and two fire walls, and out the south wall's windows to fall onto a twelve-story building across 33rd Street. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and landed on an elevator car. The car began to plummet, slowed somewhat by emergency safety devices. Miraculously, when help arrived at the remains of the elevator car in the basement, the two women inside the car were still alive.

Some debris from the crash fell to the streets below, sending pedestrians scurrying for cover, but most fell onto the buildings setbacks at the fifth floor. Still, a bulk of the wreckage remained stuck in the side of the building. After the flames were extinguished and the remains of the victims removed, the rest of the wreckage was removed through the building.

The plane crash killed 14 people (11 office workers and the three crewmen) plus injured 26 others. Though the integrity of the Empire State Building was not affected, the cost of the damage done by the crash was $1 million.

http://history1900s.about.com/od/1940s/a/empirecrash.htm

That was a smaller plane, Mikeys. Or was that crash an inside job too, a rehearsal for 911?



See the big hole, Mikeys? Caused by kinetic energy and that bomber was much smaller and lighter that the planes which flew into the Twin Towers.
 
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We were already down that road. Kinetic energy could do the trick of crashing the wall on impact. Why not. It would also immediately turn the shell into nothing. So, what made the little hole on the other side of the building It could not have been the bow of the plane. It had been destroyed on impact.

By which proccess can matter be turned into nothing?
 
Why would this be? Have you heard the phase "mater can not be created or destroyed"? How about Sir Isaac Newton, ever hear of him? He was smart. :rolleyes:

Did the bow turn to dust on impact or did it not? How can a flimsy shell survive an impact like that. KE is one thing and the relative strength and mass of matter involved and how it will subsequently react to an event is another thing. Try to imagine the impact in slow motion. Plug the numbers and do the math. What happens to the aluminum alloy bow when the plane hits the wall with a velocity high enough to crash through steel.
 
Did the bow turn to dust on impact or did it not? How can a flimsy shell survive an impact like that. KE is one thing and the relative strength and mass of matter involved and how it will subsequently react to an event is another thing. Try to imagine the impact in slow motion. Plug the numbers and do the math. What happens to the aluminum alloy bow when the plane hits the wall with a velocity high enough to crash through steel.

Why don't you do the maths for us?
 
What is your view of the Empire State Building bomber crash, Mikeys? Handwave?
 

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