Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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Robert Prey said:
A Simple Question For Jay Utah and Ant Pogo:

Leaving all other issues aside, after having heard and digested all the evidence and arguments pro and con for the validity or non-validity of Obama's COLB document, am I correct in assuming that you would be willing to say with one hundred percent certitude, that the COLB document is an authentic copy of the original birth certificate, and not a forgery with content altered or created digitally? Would you say that, could you say that with 100 percent certitude????
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The state of Hawaii is happy that it is genuine, so yes to both questions.
 
Not to support Robert Prey in any way shape or form (because he's demonstrably wrong in everything he's posted on this thread) but I believe that "folk" has recently acquired an odd [racist] connotation in American English which it does not have in British English. So his surprise at the perfectly innocuous term "common folk" may spring from this.

Urban Dictionary
 
BTW, I want to see Willard's passport records. I want to know how often he goes to Switzerland and the Caymans to visit his money.
 
Playing the part of Robert Prey today will be......me!





000063 said:
Ah. So we're downgraded from "experts" to "serious critics". I expect "concerned citizens" or "the public" next. PDFs scanned from documents don't necessarily create searchable docs, with or without OCR.

Appeal to impossible perfection.

So you lot ask for the certificate, and when it's provided, you say it's a forgery based on "evidence" no credible experts agree with, and ask for the long form. There is nothing to stop you lot from, if you are provided with the evidence requested, declaring all of it faked and demanding even more. This standard of proof is ludicrously high and unjustified.

The Long Form was, in fact, provided. This does not instill me with confidence regarding your research abilities, especially since you are focused, curiously, almost exclusively on the short form.

Don't you mean the lack of travel records?



That's funny. I've been using layers as clipping masks in Adobe Photoshop for the better part of a decade now. And as for Illustrator;
http://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/clipping-masks.html

Speaking as someone who has used both programs, one quite extensively; You. Are. Wrong.



I'm noticing quite a lot of unbacked flat denials here, Bobby. Quite a lot.
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Baloney.

Travis said:
Why the hell would we want to see this? Has any other President ever provided it?



Seriously? Why the hell would we want to see this? Has any other President ever provided it?



Again, seriously?



Why?



Why?



Why?



Why?



Again, why?



This is getting redundant.



More redundancy with no reasoning behind it.



Why the hell would we want to see this? Has any other President ever provided it?



Seriously why the hell would we want to see this?



Are you like some fetishist who gets off on the minutia of long dead people's marriage documents?



Oh....apparently you are.



Which would look just like the one you've already seen and declared to be in conflict with how you imagine reality is.



Lol. Really?

Good luck getting those records. At least half are completely irrelevant and most are protected by various laws from weirdos on the net.
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One question at a time or no dialogue.






I took a bit of artistic license here. Robert would have split these two responses into separate posts but I chose, for dramatic effect, to combine them. How'd I do? Do I win the Oscar? (Oh no, that's more than one question).
 
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Robert Prey said:
The Obama records which have not been released include; Passport records, Obama kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/schedules (said to be lost), Medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage licenses and of course the long-form Certificate of Live Birth. Also either missing or sealed are hospital admission records for his mother, and travel records for the week he was allegedly born.
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No other POTUS has ever been asked to produce his parent's marital records (or any of the other data you seek, but we'll focus on this one) - why does an exception need to be made for this one?
 
Border Reiver said:
No other POTUS has ever been asked to produce his parent's marital records (or any of the other data you seek, but we'll focus on this one) - why does an exception need to be made for this one?
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Yea, we all know the answer to this one...
 
Robert Prey said:
Eight one-bit layers plus one 8 bit layer.

When the student is ready, the teacher appears.
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Then why haven't you answered one single question of mine testing your knowledge of PDF files?

Not one single question!

It's obvious to me and to several others, I daresay. You pretend to know what you're talking about, and you carefully avoid questions whose answers would reveal that pretense. I've asked you several questions intended to discover whether your explanation for how the PDF was structured as it is is based on your understanding or rather just your regurgitation of what partisan authors have told you. You plop down at the end of a 150-page thread you refuse to read, and pretend you're now the grand master of the argument? Nope.

Teacher? Bah! Your arguments aren't even that of an astute student.
 
Border Reiver said:
No other POTUS has ever been asked to produce his parent's marital records (or any of the other data you seek, but we'll focus on this one) - why does an exception need to be made for this one?
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To be fair, there was actually one hit among that sea of misses. IIRC, just last cycle, there was pressure on McCain to provide some medical records. However, this had nothing to do with eligibility. Considering his age and his running mate, the electorate was legitimately concerned about his ability to survive 4 years in such a high stress position.
 
sts60 said:
Yes, and the other problem is that the class clown is supposd to be funny. But his act is just embarrassing to watch.



In your soul, you know he's a troll.
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In a bowl, you know he's tripe
 
sts60 said:
Yes, and the other problem is that the class clown is supposd to be funny. But his act is just embarrassing to watch.
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Trolls can be amusing. However the ones who fall into predictable patterns are just boring. It's like the class clown who says the same joke every day. On the first day it's funny. After a week you want to jump him after school. When the vast majority of the readership can predict what Robert will say or do next, you can tell it has ceased to become a discussion and has devolved into a performance. A re-run.

In your soul, you know he's a troll.
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In my pancreas, I know he's ... um ... can I have a do-over?
 
Oooh, fun meme.

In your eyes, you know he lies.
In your schlong, you know he's wrong.
 
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